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"Bryan" wrote in message . com... "Lisa Horton" wrote in message ... Bryan wrote: How many of you ride with a friend who skis? Occasionally I see a boarder and skiier together and with my son ready to switch to boarding (mostly at my suggestion) I wonder if he really needs to; I was thinking that he'd get bored on skis if he went with a boarding friend who spent most of their time at the terrain parks instead of on the trails/runs. Now and then I ride with a friend who boards (I'm a skier). Then again, she doesn't make a habit of sitting down in the middle of runs I tend to like boarders, they often have what I consider a good, and not snotty, attitude. Lisa Interesting. I had a girlfriend when I was young who didn't care that her dormmate was a smoker on the idea that smokers wouldn't be bothered by her sloppy living. I guess smokers aren't snotty. And why do boarders sit down in the middle of runs? Because we can :-) And why do skiers stand around in groups at the lift exit? I guess because they can :-) Back to the question though. I occasionally go boarding with skiers and in my distant past I've been skiing with boarders. It generally works out. It's true skiers generally don't want to go near the park but I once tempted a novice skier friend of mine into the halfpipe and she actually did amazingly well and it really boosted her confidence. Jay. |
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Dean wrote: Bryan wrote: And why do boarders sit down in the middle of runs? There are two questions: Why do they sit? Why do they sit in the middle of runs? After great consideration I've concluded that the answer is: Because they can and standing still on a board is very difficult. Sitting with skis probably isn't realistic which is why some skiers stand in the middle of runs. If you want to know why they sit in the middle of runs to socialize rather than sitting on a side, that's probably because they are young and aren't thinking. The common element is "young" and "inexperienced". Vans pull into the resorts, kids get out, and the vans leave. The ski patrol is not a substitute for parental supervision and training. Dean I agree with Dean here on the main points. First it is extremely difficult to stand still on a slope. Second snowboard in general is more physically demanding becuase the rider must use constant energy just to maintain their balance (like when standing still on a slope) where as a skiier can easily keep their body upright will minimal effort. As I mentioned in my other posts, most of the things people attribute to snowboarders really should be attributed to young/inexperienced riders who don't know better. They are simply unconscious of the world and other people around them until someone tells them "hey we should sit to the side of the trail away from the drops so someone doesn't crash into us." I should mention that this is only a "generalization" about youth AND that plenty of adults fail to obey proper mountain etiquette as well. Actually "park-inexperienced" adults tend to ignore proper park/pipe etiquette more than younger skiiers/riders (there are 3 basic rules) but that's another story. |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:10:30 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote: I was thinking that he would probably have more fun riding than skiing. That however is based on the assumption (out of total ingnorance) that snowboarders spend most of their day at the terrain parks and pipes. There are all kinds of boarders and all kinds of skiiers. I ride with both, but obviously gravitate toward those who enjoy the same sort of things I do. It's no problem boarding with skiiers, although expert skiiers will get down the mountain faster than expert boarders. If he's happy with skis, get him a pair of twin tips and he'll find plenty of company in the park. -- Robert |
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Jay wrote: "Bryan" wrote in message . com... "Lisa Horton" wrote in message ... Bryan wrote: How many of you ride with a friend who skis? Occasionally I see a boarder and skiier together and with my son ready to switch to boarding (mostly at my suggestion) I wonder if he really needs to; I was thinking that he'd get bored on skis if he went with a boarding friend who spent most of their time at the terrain parks instead of on the trails/runs. Now and then I ride with a friend who boards (I'm a skier). Then again, she doesn't make a habit of sitting down in the middle of runs I tend to like boarders, they often have what I consider a good, and not snotty, attitude. Lisa Interesting. I had a girlfriend when I was young who didn't care that her dormmate was a smoker on the idea that smokers wouldn't be bothered by her sloppy living. I guess smokers aren't snotty. And why do boarders sit down in the middle of runs? Because we can :-) And why do skiers stand around in groups at the lift exit? I guess because they can :-) Back to the question though. I occasionally go boarding with skiers and in my distant past I've been skiing with boarders. It generally works out. It's true skiers generally don't want to go near the park but I once tempted a novice skier friend of mine into the halfpipe and she actually did amazingly well and it really boosted her confidence. I'll admit venturing into terrain park areas at times. The easy terrain areas have little jumps that I can handle safely. The half pipes are VERY tempting, and when I get good enough, I think I'll get some twin tips and see how it goes. You boarders are having just TOO MUCH fun in there, I want some of that Lisa |
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Bryan wrote: "Lisa Horton" wrote in message ... Bryan wrote: How many of you ride with a friend who skis? Occasionally I see a boarder and skiier together and with my son ready to switch to boarding (mostly at my suggestion) I wonder if he really needs to; I was thinking that he'd get bored on skis if he went with a boarding friend who spent most of their time at the terrain parks instead of on the trails/runs. Now and then I ride with a friend who boards (I'm a skier). Then again, she doesn't make a habit of sitting down in the middle of runs I tend to like boarders, they often have what I consider a good, and not snotty, attitude. Lisa Interesting. I had a girlfriend when I was young who didn't care that her dormmate was a smoker on the idea that smokers wouldn't be bothered by her sloppy living. I guess smokers aren't snotty. And why do boarders sit down in the middle of runs? Looks like your question was answered by others, and I agree it seems like it's usually the younger boarders sitting in the middle of the run. I didn't want to speculate, because there's no way I'm going to come into your group and talk crap about boarders Lisa |
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although expert skiiers will get down the mountain faster
than expert boarders If you don't mind me asking, why is that? Thanks Eric |
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On 15 Mar 2005 09:45:52 -0800, "Eric" wrote:
If you don't mind me asking, why is that? Skis go faster than boards. Four edges give you more wiggle room for error correction than two. Don't get me wrong. My groups of friends gets down the mountain on boards faster than the majority of skiers, but an expert skier should be able to beat you every time. -- Robert |
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"Robert Stevahn" wrote in message ... On 15 Mar 2005 09:45:52 -0800, "Eric" wrote: If you don't mind me asking, why is that? Skis go faster than boards. Four edges give you more wiggle room for error correction than two. Don't get me wrong. My groups of friends gets down the mountain on boards faster than the majority of skiers, but an expert skier should be able to beat you every time. I used to crew for a league race operation. The boarders best times were always way higher than the better skiers. Bob |
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:00:37 -0800, "Bob"
wrote: I used to crew for a league race operation. The boarders best times were always way higher than the better skiers. I wonder why the sanctioning bodies give handicaps to boarders and telemarkers, then? In our one league race this year (before they cancelled due to lack of snow), the two boarders were several seconds slower than the fastest skiers on the GS course. -- Robert |
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Robert Stevahn wrote:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:00:37 -0800, "Bob" wrote: I used to crew for a league race operation. The boarders best times were always way higher than the better skiers. I wonder why the sanctioning bodies give handicaps to boarders and telemarkers, then? In our one league race this year (before they cancelled due to lack of snow), the two boarders were several seconds slower than the fastest skiers on the GS course. -- Robert I think he is providing evidence supporting you claim... notice he says best times were way "higher," which if you think about it... means "slower" I had to re-read the post a bunch of times before getting that myself. So yea, I personally have found that a skiier at a particular level of ability will be faster down the slope than a comparable snowboarder - that is just a general rule. |
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