Rockered (or reverse camber) skis ?

On 8/31/10 2:27 PM, VtSkier wrote:
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Snow Rangers? Sloppy? I've skied a couple of different pairs
of those in the past and found them to be somewhat akin to
2 x 4's. Borrowed a pair for a rare powder day here in VT.
They performed better (or maybe I did) where the ice below
the powder was blown clean off than they did where the there
was actually some powder.

A dear friend skied that ski up until a couple of years ago,
mainly because they were so beefy and grippy. There was
nothing that came close that weren't "shaped" so she stuck
with the Rangers.

Nice skis. Pretty much wore out my last pair of Volkl P30s. Had a pair
of Original Snow Rangers that I had picked up for a song on spec
(purchase dictated by Uller - He made the binding mount be within range
of my boots, always a sign from the Gods) sitting around the basement,
so I adjusted and tested the bindings, tuned them up, and tried them in
the off piste and freshies. Liked them so much I scavenged a second pair
for token money, to keep in reserve. Good thing, since I've got healthy
gouges in the base of the first pair. Doesn't matter much in the soft,
so no worries; just reminds that all things pass. And that Sierra powder
can be thin and rocks numerous.

I like them better in the powder than my Piste Stinx, which are now my
hiking skis exclusively, unless a pair of AT bindings drops off the roof
of the car ahead of me some dark and stormy night in which case I'll
remount the spare Snow Rangers for backcountry AT skiing.

Still got a January trip sketched?

lal_truckee wrote:
On 8/31/10 3:52 AM, Evojeesus wrote:
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Skiing powder in the forest is mad fun but nothing
beats the big lines on big mountains. I've seen boarders lose maybe
1500 feet of vertical in about five turns down a steepish glacier. Has
anyone skied Alta in less than 10 turns?-D

I have to ask: WHY!?!?!

Why would anyone want to give up the floating three dimensional dance of
bottomless powder to merely make big turns and go fast? If fast is the
goal bring out DH race skis and ski a prepared course - nothing like
220cm skis at 75mph+ for the feel of speed.

Maybe leave the powder untracked for those who appreciate it?

(I waxed my sloppy old powder Snow Rangers last week as well as my GS
and DH race skis - can never be too prepared. It snowed on the pass
yesterday. I'm ready.)

lal I promise I will never take your powder.

On Aug 31, 9:42*am, Dick G wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:53:30 -0700, lal_truckee



wrote:
On 8/31/10 3:52 AM, Evojeesus wrote:
CLIP

Skiing powder in the forest is mad fun but nothing
beats the big lines on big mountains. I've seen boarders lose maybe
1500 feet of vertical in about five turns down a steepish glacier. Has
anyone skied Alta in less than 10 turns?-D

I have to ask: WHY!?!?!

Why would anyone want to give up the floating three dimensional dance of
bottomless powder to merely make big turns and go fast? If fast is the
goal bring out DH race skis and ski a prepared course - nothing like
220cm skis at 75mph+ for the feel of speed.

Maybe leave the powder untracked for those who appreciate it?

(I waxed my sloppy old powder Snow Rangers last week as well as my GS
and DH race skis - can never be too prepared. It snowed on the pass
yesterday. I'm ready.)

Amen....its not far off

Dammit. Now I have to start thinking about boots again.

On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 07:15:42 -0700 (PDT), Richard Henry
wrote:

On Aug 31, 9:42*am, Dick G wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 08:53:30 -0700, lal_truckee



wrote:
On 8/31/10 3:52 AM, Evojeesus wrote:
CLIP

Skiing powder in the forest is mad fun but nothing
beats the big lines on big mountains. I've seen boarders lose maybe
1500 feet of vertical in about five turns down a steepish glacier. Has
anyone skied Alta in less than 10 turns?-D

I have to ask: WHY!?!?!

Why would anyone want to give up the floating three dimensional dance of
bottomless powder to merely make big turns and go fast? If fast is the
goal bring out DH race skis and ski a prepared course - nothing like
220cm skis at 75mph+ for the feel of speed.

Maybe leave the powder untracked for those who appreciate it?

(I waxed my sloppy old powder Snow Rangers last week as well as my GS
and DH race skis - can never be too prepared. It snowed on the pass
yesterday. I'm ready.)

Amen....its not far off

Dammit. Now I have to start thinking about boots again.
Ya, and is it worth it buying the '09 model for 50% off, or getting
the '10 model in Hot Tub Time Machine fuchsia

On Aug 29, 8:31*pm, Dick G wrote:
Are these truly worth buying another pair?
pro/con?

Oh yeah, forgot to say that the more normal rockered skis still have
normal camber under foot for 50-100cm...apparently such a short edge
bites like hell on hardpack/ice.

On Sep 2, 2:08*am, Ted Waldron wrote:
In article
,

*Evojeesus wrote:
On Aug 31, 2:17*pm, BrritSki wrote:
Evojeesus wrote:

Nope, I live in Italy.

Oh, did I miss that ?

I'm in Italy too, Liguria, nearest resortr is Limone. *You ?

I'm in Rome, nearest resorts are in the Apennines, 9 hours drive to
the Alps..

* What is skiing like in the Apennines? *I only know about the Gran
Sasso, and where SS and the Fallschirmjäger (paratroopers) did a mission
to rescue Mussolini in 1943. *The sinister Otto Skorenzy took off with
Mussolini on an overweight Fieseler Storch on a short alpine meadow with
a couple thousand feet drop off. * *

*How is the snowfall? *any good runs?

Hopefully this porch doesn't violate Godwin's Law.

http://ww2db.com/read.php?read_id=166

There is nothing about "violation" in Godwin's Law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

On 02/09/2010 11:08, Ted Waldron wrote:
In article
,
wrote:

On Aug 31, 2:17 pm, wrote:
Evojeesus wrote:

Nope, I live in Italy.

Oh, did I miss that ?

I'm in Italy too, Liguria, nearest resortr is Limone. You ?

I'm in Rome, nearest resorts are in the Apennines, 9 hours drive to
the Alps..


What is skiing like in the Apennines? I only know about the Gran
Sasso, and where SS and the Fallschirmjäger (paratroopers) did a mission
to rescue Mussolini in 1943. The sinister Otto Skorenzy took off with
Mussolini on an overweight Fieseler Storch on a short alpine meadow with
a couple thousand feet drop off.

How is the snowfall? any good runs?

It's low and very variable snowfall. My first season (1976?) in
Terminillo (see my post a couple of days ago)started late but then ended
late too. Great for a beginner as I was then, but not so good now (skied
it out in a morning earlier this year).

There's apparently some good back country if you're into climbing and
hiking and have someone who will come and fetch you from a village in
the back of beyond

On Sep 2, 11:08*am, Ted Waldron wrote:
In article
,

* What is skiing like in the Apennines? *I only know about the Gran
Sasso, and where SS and the Fallschirmjäger (paratroopers) did a mission
to rescue Mussolini in 1943. *The sinister Otto Skorenzy took off with
Mussolini on an overweight Fieseler Storch on a short alpine meadow with
a couple thousand feet drop off. * *

There are a few decent resorts, the largest one (Roccaraso) even has
about 600m of vertical. Really nice terrain for ski touring if you're
into that. Some friends skied Couloir Direttissima off Gran Sasso,
apparently it was superb.

*How is the snowfall? *any good runs?

Snow-cover is unreliable due to the southern location and te season is
pretty short, abt. ~3 months max. There's even decent off-piste, even
though light powder is very rare and off-piste is forbidden without a
guide. After the record snowfall last year (it snowed in Rome the 1st
time since the 80s') I skied one decent couloir with a friend and we
got promptly fined by the Carabinieri for skiing off-piste, LOL!

On Sep 2, 2:13*am, Richard Henry wrote:
On Sep 2, 2:08*am, Ted Waldron wrote:





In article
,

*Evojeesus wrote:
On Aug 31, 2:17*pm, BrritSki wrote:
Evojeesus wrote:

Nope, I live in Italy.

Oh, did I miss that ?

I'm in Italy too, Liguria, nearest resortr is Limone. *You ?

I'm in Rome, nearest resorts are in the Apennines, 9 hours drive to
the Alps..

* What is skiing like in the Apennines? *I only know about the Gran
Sasso, and where SS and the Fallschirmjäger (paratroopers) did a mission
to rescue Mussolini in 1943. *The sinister Otto Skorenzy took off with
Mussolini on an overweight Fieseler Storch on a short alpine meadow with
a couple thousand feet drop off. * *

*How is the snowfall? *any good runs?

Hopefully this porch doesn't violate Godwin's Law.

http://ww2db.com/read.php?read_id=166

There is nothing about "violation" in Godwin's Law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law-

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