What happened (long)

Ace wrote:
So, I'm barrelling along a lovely country road on my way to work -
long straight followed by tight right-hander, so lots of beans being
applied. This is a nice road and I'm enjoying the ride in, but somehow
I get sucked into it. Mistake #1.

GWS FFS. And don't do it again, huh?


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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:52:19 +0200, Ace wrote:

So, I'm barrelling along a lovely country road on my way to work -
snip

My cousin is 12 months on from a car smash that left her with a
similarly long list of damage. It's a *long* way back from something
like that and you're obviously aware of this.

One day at a time, and glad you're OK ...

.... you clumsy ****.

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Champ wrote:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:54:25 +0100, Lozzo wrote:

Champ says...
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:40:36 +0100, "Buzby"
wrote:


So, I'm barrelling along a lovely country road on my way to work
- long straight followed by tight right-hander, so lots of beans
being applied. This is a nice road and I'm enjoying the ride in,
but somehow I get sucked into it. Mistake #1.

snip

You lucky lucky ****er.

Couldn't agree more.

Y'see, I think he was *unlucky*.

I like to think positive.

I *am* thinking positive!

OK so do you think this was a case of target fixation and panic braking?
or was your speed such that it was impossible to carve any line around
the bend?

I only ask because years of SOB and TT100 type tyres had drummed in the
mantra of getting off the brakes before peeling in. Subsequent track
tuition proved it was possible to start heeling in while hard on the
anchors gradually releasing the pressure as you approach maximum lean.
I regularly brake into a corner now, partly a play off with greater
lean, when the corner appears to be tightening. Partly controlling long
travel suspension unwinding quickly.

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"Ace" wrote in message
...
So, I'm barrelling along a lovely country road on my way to work -
long straight followed by tight right-hander, so lots of beans being
applied. This is a nice road and I'm enjoying the ride in, but somehow
I get sucked into it. Mistake #1.

snip mistakes

Unlucky or clumsy, whatever.

GWS

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Spete

"Champ" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:05:58 GMT, "Le Dieu" wrote:

Harrowing tale snipped.

Wow.

Thanks Ace, you've helped me make up my mind to sell my bike. Wife and
kids
very pleased.

Surely you were already aware that accidents on motorcycles can result
in serious injury and even death? What difference does this new one
make to your decision?
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Champ


3rd baby arriving started it off. Then the accidents I heard about just kept
getting nearer and nearer and seemingly more common.

It's weighing up the pleasure/risk balance.

Still haven't finally decided. Sunny days like today make me want to take
the bike out. All in all though, I think I can probably live without it.

Has Ace mentioned whether or not he'll ride again?

A. D.

"darsy" wrote in message
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"Le Dieu" wrote:


"Ace" wrote in message
. ..
So, I'm barrelling along a lovely country road on my way to work -
long straight followed by tight right-hander, so lots of beans being
applied.


Harrowing tale snipped.

Wow.

Thanks Ace, you've helped me make up my mind to sell my bike. Wife and
kids
very pleased.

poof.


I was saving that confession for another day.

Wife and kids probably not so pleased.

A. D.

"Ace" wrote in message
...
[2] Schwabenleder.


Saved your life? Possibly. Saved you from paralysis? Almost certainly.

You're one lucky SOB.

GWS.

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'02 YZF-R6

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:47:31 +0100, "Hog"
wrote:

Champ wrote:
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:54:25 +0100, Lozzo wrote:

Champ says...
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:40:36 +0100, "Buzby"
wrote:


So, I'm barrelling along a lovely country road on my way to work
- long straight followed by tight right-hander, so lots of beans
being applied. This is a nice road and I'm enjoying the ride in,
but somehow I get sucked into it. Mistake #1.

snip

You lucky lucky ****er.

To survive, maybe. To be spat into an Armco barrier at 50+eek mph?
That isn't what I call lucky.

Couldn't agree more.

Y'see, I think he was *unlucky*.

My thinking too. All of the other times when I got away with it were
the lucky ones.

I like to think positive.

I *am* thinking positive!

OK so do you think this was a case of target fixation and panic braking?

No.

or was your speed such that it was impossible to carve any line around
the bend?

Yes.

I only ask because years of SOB and TT100 type tyres had drummed in the
mantra of getting off the brakes before peeling in. Subsequent track
tuition proved it was possible to start heeling in while hard on the
anchors gradually releasing the pressure as you approach maximum lean.
I regularly brake into a corner now, partly a play off with greater
lean, when the corner appears to be tightening. Partly controlling long
travel suspension unwinding quickly.

I also brake into corners a lot, and modern tyres and geometry make it
perfectly do-able. In this case though, I was still on maximum braking
at, and beyond, the turn-in point, so there was no more grip to give.
In fact, of course, I might well have been better of doing so, but
that's only based on what I actually hit. Had I been a bit further
ahead I'd probably have gone right over the Armco, with little more
damage than a few bruises.

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Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:48:01 +0100, darsy wrote:

Ace wrote:

nasty but relatively survivable, the damn thing stoppies, dead
straight, and flips me straight over the top.

actually, are you sure it was the tyres? Could have been Des lurking
at the side of the road waiting to shove a scaffolding pole between
the spokes of your front wheel.

Damn, I never looked. That's certainly what it felt like, so I reckon
you could be onto something here.
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Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:47:26 +0100, Ian White
wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:52:19 +0200, Ace wrote:

So, I'm barrelling along a lovely country road on my way to work -
snip

My cousin is 12 months on from a car smash that left her with a
similarly long list of damage. It's a *long* way back from something
like that and you're obviously aware of this.

Naah, that's not the attitude. I'll be skiing by January, latest.

One day at a time, and glad you're OK ...

... you clumsy ****.

Yupp.

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Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk
All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.