Natasha Richardson

Ok folks, just wear your helmet when you're skiing or on a motorbike,
the life you save might be your own...

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:02:57 -0700 (PDT), Evojeesus
wrote this crap:

Ok folks, just wear your helmet when you're skiing or on a motorbike,
the life you save might be your own...


Wuss! Don't tell me what to do, dumbass.




A mighty Hungarian warrior
The blood of Attila runs through me

On Mar 19, 11:41*am, A mighty Hungarian
wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:02:57 -0700 (PDT), Evojeesus
wrote this crap:

Ok folks, just wear your helmet when you're skiing or on a motorbike,
the life you save might be your own...

Wuss! * Don't tell me what to do, dumbass.

I'm telling you to wear a helmet while skiing, that's what Hungarian
warrior-characters do in battle anyway.

Evojeesus wrote:
Ok folks, just wear your helmet when you're skiing or on a motorbike,
the life you save might be your own...

Dr. Eugene Flamm, chairman of neurosurgery at Montefiore
Medical Center in New York, said there is little evidence
in this case that a helmet would have warded off
Richardson's injury.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/Min...7116273&page=1


//Walt

....we report, you decide...

On Mar 19, 1:50*pm, Walt wrote:
Evojeesus wrote:
Ok folks, just wear your helmet when you're skiing or on a motorbike,
the life you save might be your own...

* *Dr. Eugene Flamm, chairman of neurosurgery at Montefiore
* *Medical Center in New York, said there is little evidence
* *in this case that a helmet would have warded off
* *Richardson's injury.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/Min...7116273&page=1

The helmet can reduce g-forces to the head and if g-forces caused the
thing, the helmet may well have helped, whether or not there's
documented evidence of that or not. I read some of the discussion on
the subject and people claimed that there are dozens of concussion-
injuries per ski resort per year, the vast majority with people who
were not wearing helmets.

"Evojeesus" wrote in message
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On Mar 19, 1:50 pm, Walt wrote:
Evojeesus wrote:
Ok folks, just wear your helmet when you're skiing or on a motorbike,
the life you save might be your own...

Dr. Eugene Flamm, chairman of neurosurgery at Montefiore
Medical Center in New York, said there is little evidence
in this case that a helmet would have warded off
Richardson's injury.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/Min...7116273&page=1

The helmet can reduce g-forces to the head and if g-forces caused the
thing, the helmet may well have helped, whether or not there's
documented evidence of that or not. I read some of the discussion on
the subject and people claimed that there are dozens of concussion-
injuries per ski resort per year, the vast majority with people who
were not wearing helmets.

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I agree its a good idea to wear a helmet. I wear a helmet. I strongly
suggest to my kids they wear helmets. (one of two does, the other is an
adult now and makes his own choices) I've seen head injuries in non helmet
wearing skiers.

However, I read where this accident is rekindling discussion regarding
making helmet use mandatory. I have a problem telling people they must wear
a helmet. Whats next, body armour? Cut down all the trees?

On Mar 19, 4:00*pm, "Norm" wrote:

However, I read where this accident is rekindling discussion regarding
making helmet use mandatory. I have a problem telling people they must wear
a helmet. Whats next, body armour? Cut down all the trees?

Yeah mandatory would be bad, on the other hand some US ski resort
could just start that trend in fear of litigation. I like the French
go-kill-yourself-if-you-want-to - approach a lot better.

On Mar 19, 8:50*am, Walt wrote:
Evojeesus wrote:
Ok folks, just wear your helmet when you're skiing or on a motorbike,
the life you save might be your own...

* *Dr. Eugene Flamm, chairman of neurosurgery at Montefiore
* *Medical Center in New York, said there is little evidence
* *in this case that a helmet would have warded off
* *Richardson's injury.

True, because there is no evidence of exactly what her injury was, or
what the precise cause of death was. That information hasn't been
released. Since we know almost nothing beyond the facts that she fell
and she died, we don't know whether a helmet would have helped or not.

However, you omitted the other quoted doctor's professional advice &
speculation on this point:
"Faden said that Richardson's death should serve as a reminder to the
public to take precautions against head injury whenever possible. ...
He added that he believes the use of a helmet may have helped lessen
the likelihood of a traumatic brain injury."

Joe Ramirez

Evojeesus wrote:
On Mar 19, 1:50 pm, Walt wrote:
Evojeesus wrote:
Ok folks, just wear your helmet when you're skiing or on a motorbike,
the life you save might be your own...

Dr. Eugene Flamm, chairman of neurosurgery at Montefiore
Medical Center in New York, said there is little evidence
in this case that a helmet would have warded off
Richardson's injury.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/Min...7116273&page=1

The helmet can reduce g-forces to the head and if g-forces caused the
thing, the helmet may well have helped, whether or not there's
documented evidence of that or not. I read some of the discussion on
the subject and people claimed that there are dozens of concussion-
injuries per ski resort per year, the vast majority with people who
were not wearing helmets.

The problem with helmets is not that simple. One a improperly fitted
helmet can be worse than no helmet at all. Helmets are a wear out item
and have a life span, it not a hat, it needs to perform a mechanical
function. That depends on the plastic not being past its use or the
padding inside is not compressed. The most important being fitted for
your head. The helmet does not work if it is not strapped on. I have
rejected racers that had cracks in their helmet and they did not
understand why? They claim it is there choice to wear and use defective
equipment. Well it is my choice to protect the other racers and reject
your entry go see the steward.
You can make morons wear helmets but if they do not do it right it is
pointless.

The other side of the coin is your telling me I can ski down this slope
at speeds greater the the national speed limit and all I need is this
little plastic cap on my head to do it legally.

On 19 Mar, 16:28, wrote:

However, you omitted the other quoted doctor's professional advice &
speculation on this point:
"Faden said that Richardson's death should serve as a reminder to the
public to take precautions against head injury whenever possible. ...

To mention a couple of examples in the news here.

Especially when standing in the queue for the checkout -
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky...20080641318812
"Mr Tripp suffered severe head injuries when he hit
the supermarket floor"

Or when a pedestrian on the pavement (sidewalk -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...just-fine.html
"suffering fatal injuries as she hit her head on the pavement"

In fact, why not just stay in bed - much safer - except it's
not of course, you will just die sooner with some problem
related to inactivity.