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Bora 80 versus Bora 95 Backpacks?
Evaluating a new backpack primarily for hiking but also something I'll use
backcountry skiing. Bora 80 seems like plenty of room for most reasonable scenarios, but I wonder about having the extra capacity of the 95 "just in case." On the other hand, the 95 has a slightly higher center of gravity because of its longer spine, and with anything in the day pack on top, I expect I would feel that skiing. Any experience with these packs? Tom |
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In article , klaus wrote: wrote: Evaluating a new backpack primarily for hiking but also something I'll use backcountry skiing. Bora 80 seems like plenty of room for most reasonable scenarios, but I wonder about having the extra capacity of the 95 "just in case." On the other hand, the 95 has a slightly higher center of gravity because of its longer spine, and with anything in the day pack on top, I expect I would feel that skiing. Any experience with these packs? Go for the smaller pack. If you have a bigger pack, you'll just carry more shi^H^Htuff which you can do without. On cold days, you can always tie layers on the outside and still end up lighter. But then, I ski in the Wastash where people ski with just a shovel and probe. _ In rec.backcountry I told him to go bigger. IMHO, either is massive overkill for anything short of a multiday trip. However, I've tried smaller on multiday trips and strapping crap to the outside of the pack truly sucks if you're actually attempting to make turns or even just get from A to B. The extra weight of a big pack for multiday stuff is fairly trivial and being able to put the weight of gear where you want to, rather than where you have to makes the whole ordeal much simpler. However, you do have to exercise extra diligence in keeping the crap to a minimum and skiing with that big a pack and that much stuff is never going to be much more than survival. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQwtOG2TWTAjn5N/lAQGluQQAhVUhnryPMU331xCjFNRF3iC7/SI5kIn4 w5FVY5f0cQoy7wjVodxm5Tp4e5JvWy0mavasSECrvNEuWx4Ivj e3nxNRSWadm/f8 Q/XrQAE13rzAY/nLrCoBro8I+qri22cz2yJXtH8lY1L9++xZKUJDR7ddsBHi6cPK h+3INW1AW5A= =cvne -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Booker C. Bense wrote:
In article , klaus wrote: Go for the smaller pack. If you have a bigger pack, you'll just carry more shi^H^Htuff which you can do without. On cold days, you can always tie layers on the outside and still end up lighter. But then, I ski in the Wastash where people ski with just a shovel and probe. _ In rec.backcountry I told him to go bigger. IMHO, either is massive overkill for anything short of a multiday trip. Agreed. Which is why I said go smaller. If he's going multi day, he should reconsider. Day tripping and multi day packeting require two different packs. However, I've tried smaller on multiday trips and strapping crap to the outside of the pack truly sucks if you're actually attempting to make turns or even just get from A to B. Which part sucks? I actually prefer it. But I avoid bushwhacking. Other than eye gouging trees, I don't see a downside. The extra weight of a big pack for multiday stuff is fairly trivial and being able to put the weight of gear where you want to, rather than where you have to makes the whole ordeal much simpler. I like having stuff on the outside where it is easy to get at and trivial to attach. You already do it with ice ax, crampons, probe, etc. But I most prefer leaving it behind. The main point I was trying to make is that if you have the space, you'll tend to use it. If not, you'll pare down to what is essential. But the pack should be big enough to pack essentials. Also, use compressible clothing, in compression stuff sacks. They make really light stuff sacks. And concentrate on volume as much as weight. I.e. single malt instead of beer. However, you do have to exercise extra diligence in keeping the crap to a minimum and skiing with that big a pack and that much stuff is never going to be much more than survival. My multi day pack is a Terraplane. Minimal pockets, lots of straps and daisy chains. If you're going bigger than that, you need to consider a sled. My day pack is a Black Diamond ATtack pack. Again, small, but all the accutrements like crampon pockets, ice axe loopS, etc. The problem with a little weight here, a little weight there is that it all adds up quickly. "Keep it as simple as possible, but no less" - Albert Einstein -klaus |
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In article , klaus wrote: Booker C. Bense wrote: In article , klaus wrote: However, I've tried smaller on multiday trips and strapping crap to the outside of the pack truly sucks if you're actually attempting to make turns or even just get from A to B. Which part sucks? I actually prefer it. But I avoid bushwhacking. Other than eye gouging trees, I don't see a downside. _ I've done it both ways and I much prefer everything inside the pack if at all possible. For a given load it just seems to balance and ski better. Crap doesn't come loose and fall off and things are generally out of the way. Admittedly getting the right straps and a little experience takes care of both of these, but for me the whole thing just goes a lot smoother with a little extra space in the pack. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQwt0lWTWTAjn5N/lAQEFfQQApOQJ+nKNOp+h7wzqVHHNXKOY1Y/QUzyn dA4EXZ00ASl9VzCX/QMN5AOqNk4rhC2tPvE3Cvsm5VHSmdGLlxGhK6ByR2Eo7Pb2 Q10Pj7fc6A4IdIK4mqWx0Eikytk19YoUY4ugnBA8KIdQ9mRt5k GOrHu2S66N1SE7 9hGxdHPmuUo= =Tp5l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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