what do yall think about this board?

This group has always given good information. So here is another question.

http://rdcshop.com/index.php/Arbor/0.../item_id/13532

the Arbor A frame. the 162. What do you think?

I am 6'2". 165lbs. mostly freeriding, hitting only jumps that the terrain
provides. Intermediate level- (Can ski all blues and most blacks. )

I can buy this board brand new for about 400.

your thoughts are appreciated.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:26:30 -0600, "Howlee"
wrote:

This group has always given good information. So here is another question.

http://rdcshop.com/index.php/Arbor/0.../item_id/13532

the Arbor A frame. the 162. What do you think?

I am 6'2". 165lbs. mostly freeriding, hitting only jumps that the terrain
provides. Intermediate level- (Can ski all blues and most blacks. )

It's one of the boards that I'm hoping to try if I can find one to
demo! You're right in the middle of their weight recommendation for
that board. These boards appear to have the high-end features you'd
expect at that price point, Arbor is certainly a respected brand, and
needless to say they are beautiful to look at.

If you're interested in expanding your horizons (park jumps, riding
switch, spinning), the Element looks to be more All Mountain than Big
Mountain. You might consider it, particularly if you are not in powder
country.

But I have not ridden either of them.

-- Robert

Thanks for the reply on my last post.

I cant really tell the difference between the 2 boards (a frame and
element). All i know is how to ride, I never really understood the
equipment. people who board all the time tell me my current board is good,
but really old. they say i should get a new one and my riding my get to
another level.

I am stuck between the element and the A-frame right now. i found an online
site that is selling them both in the mid 300's. they dont have length of
the a frame I need in stock so i will have to pay in the 400's for the a
frame on another site if i want that model and length.

I have been waiting all season to buy a board. I am tired of waiting. If
anybody else has anything else to say about the difference in the 2 models,
please post.

thanks again



"Robert Stevahn" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:26:30 -0600, "Howlee"
wrote:

This group has always given good information. So here is another
question.


http://rdcshop.com/index.php/Arbor/0.../action/itemde
tail/item_id/13532

the Arbor A frame. the 162. What do you think?

I am 6'2". 165lbs. mostly freeriding, hitting only jumps that the
terrain
provides. Intermediate level- (Can ski all blues and most blacks. )

It's one of the boards that I'm hoping to try if I can find one to
demo! You're right in the middle of their weight recommendation for
that board. These boards appear to have the high-end features you'd
expect at that price point, Arbor is certainly a respected brand, and
needless to say they are beautiful to look at.

If you're interested in expanding your horizons (park jumps, riding
switch, spinning), the Element looks to be more All Mountain than Big
Mountain. You might consider it, particularly if you are not in powder
country.

But I have not ridden either of them.

-- Robert

I can see you dilemma as the specifications for the 162 on both model
are essentially identically EXCEPT for the fact that the A-Frame has
more carbon fiber in it (I don't pretend to completely know the
difference between triangular torsion rods vs a single carbon strut,
but I can definitely tell you that the former has more carbon fiber,
and will be stiffer). From this and the description of it as a Big
Mountain board versus an All-Mountain board, I expect the A-Frame to be
a bit stiffer giving it better edge hold and stability on the steeps
than the Element, whereas the Element is most forgiving, easier to
throw around and more mellow (requires less energy). The reviews are
boardreviews.com seem to concur with me
(http://www.boardreviews.com/Search.p...Arbor&count=26). I
would ignore any review done by someone with less than 5 years riding
experience as they haven't really built up enough experience to
properly review boards.

That being said, Arbors boards in general are not particularly stiffer
(bamboo is rather flexy) so they are more for mellow, fun cruising than
hard carving and charging. I ride Salomon and Donek boards though, are
super stiff and fun to carve... but occasionally can get bogged down
when you are going slower or bouncing between trees.

If you never go in the park, then I would suggest the A-Frame over the
Element (All-Mountain means doing lots of jumps still)... However,
there is no way you should be paying over $400 for a board this late in
the season. The RDC is in Oregon, right? I seriously doubt they sold
much because of the bad season you guys are getting... you should
definitely be able to get it for $350 at least.

Good luck

Howlee wrote:
Thanks for the reply on my last post.

I cant really tell the difference between the 2 boards (a frame and
element). All i know is how to ride, I never really understood the
equipment. people who board all the time tell me my current board is
good,
but really old. they say i should get a new one and my riding my get
to
another level.

I am stuck between the element and the A-frame right now. i found an
online
site that is selling them both in the mid 300's. they dont have
length of
the a frame I need in stock so i will have to pay in the 400's for
the a
frame on another site if i want that model and length.

I have been waiting all season to buy a board. I am tired of waiting.
If
anybody else has anything else to say about the difference in the 2
models,
please post.

thanks again



"Robert Stevahn" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:26:30 -0600, "Howlee"
wrote:

This group has always given good information. So here is another
question.



http://rdcshop.com/index.php/Arbor/0.../action/itemde
tail/item_id/13532

the Arbor A frame. the 162. What do you think?

I am 6'2". 165lbs. mostly freeriding, hitting only jumps that
the
terrain
provides. Intermediate level- (Can ski all blues and most blacks.
)

It's one of the boards that I'm hoping to try if I can find one to
demo! You're right in the middle of their weight recommendation for
that board. These boards appear to have the high-end features you'd
expect at that price point, Arbor is certainly a respected brand,
and
needless to say they are beautiful to look at.

If you're interested in expanding your horizons (park jumps, riding
switch, spinning), the Element looks to be more All Mountain than
Big
Mountain. You might consider it, particularly if you are not in
powder
country.

But I have not ridden either of them.

-- Robert

Howlee wrote:

This group has always given good information. So here is another question.

http://rdcshop.com/index.php/Arbor/0.../item_id/13532

the Arbor A frame. the 162. What do you think?

I am 6'2". 165lbs. mostly freeriding, hitting only jumps that the terrain
provides. Intermediate level- (Can ski all blues and most blacks. )

I can buy this board brand new for about 400.

your thoughts are appreciated.






Element - more park oriented, but a good all around board.
A-Frame - pretty, stiff, way stiff from what I have seen.

The bamboo is in Mystic and Stance. The Mystic has been getting rave
reviews and is in demand, around here anyways. Lots of flex.


The A-frame should be for sale at Backcountry.com for about $240 this
weekend. If I had not picked up a new board, it is probably the one I
was going to purchase.


Regards,

Chris

Howlee wrote:

This group has always given good information. So here is another question.

http://rdcshop.com/index.php/Arbor/0.../item_id/13532

the Arbor A frame. the 162. What do you think?

I am 6'2". 165lbs. mostly freeriding, hitting only jumps that the terrain
provides. Intermediate level- (Can ski all blues and most blacks. )

I can buy this board brand new for about 400.



It's a nice board, I've considered buying it myself. If you can wait
another month or two, you might even find it under $400

good luck :-)

bri






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Christopher

The A-frame should be for sale at Backcountry.com for about $240 this
weekend. If I had not picked up a new board, it is probably the one I
was going to purchase.

How do you know the board will go on sale for that amount? : ) Are you sure
it will?

Regards.

W




"Christopher Cox" wrote in
message ...
Howlee wrote:

This group has always given good information. So here is another
question.


http://rdcshop.com/index.php/Arbor/0.../item_id/13532

the Arbor A frame. the 162. What do you think?

I am 6'2". 165lbs. mostly freeriding, hitting only jumps that the
terrain
provides. Intermediate level- (Can ski all blues and most blacks. )

I can buy this board brand new for about 400.

your thoughts are appreciated.






Element - more park oriented, but a good all around board.
A-Frame - pretty, stiff, way stiff from what I have seen.

The bamboo is in Mystic and Stance. The Mystic has been getting rave
reviews and is in demand, around here anyways. Lots of flex.


The A-frame should be for sale at Backcountry.com for about $240 this
weekend. If I had not picked up a new board, it is probably the one I
was going to purchase.


Regards,

Chris

Howlee wrote:

How do you know the board will go on sale for that amount? : ) Are you sure
it will?



I don't know if he's right...but I'm hoping he is :-)

I'm enjoying shopping around at the moment. most 2005 model "$400ish"
boards I'm starting to find in the $250 range right about now. there
are a few boards I'd consider buying immediately, as long as I can get
cheap (or free) shipping on that.

bri





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Howlee wrote:
Christopher


The A-frame should be for sale at Backcountry.com for about $240 this
weekend. If I had not picked up a new board, it is probably the one I
was going to purchase.


How do you know the board will go on sale for that amount? : ) Are you sure
it will?

Regards.

W




"Christopher Cox" wrote in
message ...

Howlee wrote:


This group has always given good information. So here is another

question.


http://rdcshop.com/index.php/Arbor/0.../item_id/13532

the Arbor A frame. the 162. What do you think?

I am 6'2". 165lbs. mostly freeriding, hitting only jumps that the

terrain

provides. Intermediate level- (Can ski all blues and most blacks. )

I can buy this board brand new for about 400.

your thoughts are appreciated.







Element - more park oriented, but a good all around board.
A-Frame - pretty, stiff, way stiff from what I have seen.

The bamboo is in Mystic and Stance. The Mystic has been getting rave
reviews and is in demand, around here anyways. Lots of flex.


The A-frame should be for sale at Backcountry.com for about $240 this
weekend. If I had not picked up a new board, it is probably the one I
was going to purchase.


Regards,

Chris




Hello Howlee,

I received a fly'er in the mail with the special in it. I assumed you
would have to call to get the price, because I never saw the promised
price on the web.

I had been looking at the A-frame for a while, and my family instantly
made me aware of the special. But I had already (that day) picked up a
Palmer Crown, so I trashed the fly'er.

Hope you are able to pick up the board for a great price!

Regards,

Chris

Chris

Yeah, the day you posted that was the day after I already ordered the 162
Element from backcountry.com.

I paid about $335 for the board, but if I can get it for $240 or less since
it is not the top model like the A-Frame, maybe they will chargeback the
difference like how bestbuy or Circuit City does within 30 days of the
purchase. : ) - this way that amount may pay for my bindings.

Was it an online flyer? pdf? Also, was the Arbor element model on the
flyer as well as the A frame? Please advise

Thanks again







"Christopher Cox" wrote in
message .. .
Howlee wrote:
Christopher


The A-frame should be for sale at Backcountry.com for about $240 this
weekend. If I had not picked up a new board, it is probably the one I
was going to purchase.


How do you know the board will go on sale for that amount? : ) Are you
sure
it will?

Regards.

W




"Christopher Cox" wrote in
message ...

Howlee wrote:


This group has always given good information. So here is another

question.



http://rdcshop.com/index.php/Arbor/0.../item_id/13532

the Arbor A frame. the 162. What do you think?

I am 6'2". 165lbs. mostly freeriding, hitting only jumps that the

terrain

provides. Intermediate level- (Can ski all blues and most blacks. )

I can buy this board brand new for about 400.

your thoughts are appreciated.







Element - more park oriented, but a good all around board.
A-Frame - pretty, stiff, way stiff from what I have seen.

The bamboo is in Mystic and Stance. The Mystic has been getting rave
reviews and is in demand, around here anyways. Lots of flex.


The A-frame should be for sale at Backcountry.com for about $240 this
weekend. If I had not picked up a new board, it is probably the one I
was going to purchase.


Regards,

Chris




Hello Howlee,

I received a fly'er in the mail with the special in it. I assumed you
would have to call to get the price, because I never saw the promised
price on the web.

I had been looking at the A-frame for a while, and my family instantly
made me aware of the special. But I had already (that day) picked up a
Palmer Crown, so I trashed the fly'er.

Hope you are able to pick up the board for a great price!

Regards,

Chris