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sore feet, looking for a solution
Hi there,
I haven't skied for a few years because of foot pain. Almost the whole of the bottom of my foot gets extremely sore very soon after starting to ski. 20 min is about all I can do before having to go sit down some where. I get the exact same foot pain when doing ice skating. I think I had the same pain once when I did a long walk in barefeet along a beach with compacted sand. I was diagnosed with plantar faciatis years ago and have orthodics for it. I don't really get PF symptoms anymore, and it's not clear to me if the pain I get from skiing is plantar fasciitis. I have tried to ski with my orthotics and from what I recall, they made it even worse. I'd like to give skiing another shot but could use some advice on what may be causing my pain. If it an arch issue or something like that, I don't quite understand why the orthotics didn't help. Perhaps they made the boot too tight or something. thanks |
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sluggo wrote:
Hi there, I haven't skied for a few years because of foot pain. Almost the whole of the bottom of my foot gets extremely sore very soon after starting to ski. 20 min is about all I can do before having to go sit down some where. I get the exact same foot pain when doing ice skating. I think I had the same pain once when I did a long walk in barefeet along a beach with compacted sand. I think I know what the problem is... I was diagnosed with plantar faciatis years ago and have orthodics for it. I don't really get PF symptoms anymore, and it's not clear to me if the pain I get from skiing is plantar fasciitis. I have tried to ski with my orthotics and from what I recall, they made it even worse. Yes, that's like me. I wore orthopedic insoles for about 5 years, ending about 30 years ago. I'd like to give skiing another shot but could use some advice on what may be causing my pain. If it an arch issue or something like that, I don't quite understand why the orthotics didn't help. Perhaps they made the boot too tight or something. I have tried multiple pairs of both skating and combi boots, but I get exactly the same kind of problems as you do. However, when I instead wear my (much cheaper!) soft classic touring boots, everything is OK. I do quite a bit of skating as well in those boots, and yes, that is more tiring than with a proper pair of skating boots, but otoh, it doesn't hurt! I.e. try skiing in low/soft classic boots and see what happens: This is more like a pair of sneakers than modern ski boots. Terje -- - Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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Alpina made low cut skating boots in the mid 1990s. Don't know if
anyone still does. Don't know if Terje tried the lower end combi boots, but those also tend to be softer. What does a sports orthopod (preferably one who is a skier and specializes in feet) have to say? Gene On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 07:55:03 +0100 Terje Mathisen "terje.mathisen at tmsw.no" wrote: However, when I instead wear my (much cheaper!) soft classic touring boots, everything is OK. I do quite a bit of skating as well in those boots, and yes, that is more tiring than with a proper pair of skating boots, but otoh, it doesn't hurt! I.e. try skiing in low/soft classic boots and see what happens: This is more like a pair of sneakers than modern ski boots. Terje -- - Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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On Dec 2, 11:55*pm, Terje Mathisen "terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"
wrote: sluggo wrote: Hi there, I haven't skied for a few years because of foot pain. Almost the whole of the bottom of my foot gets extremely sore very soon after starting to ski. 20 min is about all I can do before having to go sit down some where. I get the exact same foot pain when doing ice skating. I think I had the same pain once when I did a long walk in barefeet along a beach with compacted sand. I think I know what the problem is... I was diagnosed with plantar faciatis years ago and have orthodics for it. I don't really get PF symptoms anymore, and it's not clear to me if the pain I get from skiing is plantar fasciitis. I have tried to ski with my orthotics and from what I recall, they made it even worse. Yes, that's like me. I wore orthopedic insoles for about 5 years, ending about 30 years ago. I'd like to give skiing another shot but could use some advice on what may be causing my pain. If it an arch issue or something like that, I don't quite understand why the orthotics didn't help. Perhaps they made the boot too tight or something. I have tried multiple pairs of both skating and combi boots, but I get exactly the same kind of problems as you do. However, when I instead wear my (much cheaper!) soft classic touring boots, everything is OK. I do quite a bit of skating as well in those boots, and yes, that is more tiring than with a proper pair of skating boots, but otoh, it doesn't hurt! I.e. try skiing in low/soft classic boots and see what happens: This is more like a pair of sneakers than modern ski boots. Terje -- - Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" Thanks Terje, The boots I had were for classic, but I'm not sure if they would be called soft. Do you have any brand/model recommendations? Is this something that I might have to find used? cheers |
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On Dec 2, 11:55*pm, Terje Mathisen "terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"
wrote: sluggo wrote: Hi there, I haven't skied for a few years because of foot pain. Almost the whole of the bottom of my foot gets extremely sore very soon after starting to ski. 20 min is about all I can do before having to go sit down some where. I get the exact same foot pain when doing ice skating. I think I had the same pain once when I did a long walk in barefeet along a beach with compacted sand. I think I know what the problem is... I was diagnosed with plantar faciatis years ago and have orthodics for it. I don't really get PF symptoms anymore, and it's not clear to me if the pain I get from skiing is plantar fasciitis. I have tried to ski with my orthotics and from what I recall, they made it even worse. Yes, that's like me. I wore orthopedic insoles for about 5 years, ending about 30 years ago. I'd like to give skiing another shot but could use some advice on what may be causing my pain. If it an arch issue or something like that, I don't quite understand why the orthotics didn't help. Perhaps they made the boot too tight or something. I have tried multiple pairs of both skating and combi boots, but I get exactly the same kind of problems as you do. However, when I instead wear my (much cheaper!) soft classic touring boots, everything is OK. I do quite a bit of skating as well in those boots, and yes, that is more tiring than with a proper pair of skating boots, but otoh, it doesn't hurt! I.e. try skiing in low/soft classic boots and see what happens: This is more like a pair of sneakers than modern ski boots. Terje -- - Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" Thanks Terje, The boots I had were for classic, but I'm not sure if they would be called soft. Do you have any brand/model recommendations? Is this something that I might have to find used? cheers |
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On Dec 2, 11:55*pm, Terje Mathisen "terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"
wrote: sluggo wrote: Hi there, I haven't skied for a few years because of foot pain. Almost the whole of the bottom of my foot gets extremely sore very soon after starting to ski. 20 min is about all I can do before having to go sit down some where. I get the exact same foot pain when doing ice skating. I think I had the same pain once when I did a long walk in barefeet along a beach with compacted sand. I think I know what the problem is... I was diagnosed with plantar faciatis years ago and have orthodics for it. I don't really get PF symptoms anymore, and it's not clear to me if the pain I get from skiing is plantar fasciitis. I have tried to ski with my orthotics and from what I recall, they made it even worse. Yes, that's like me. I wore orthopedic insoles for about 5 years, ending about 30 years ago. I'd like to give skiing another shot but could use some advice on what may be causing my pain. If it an arch issue or something like that, I don't quite understand why the orthotics didn't help. Perhaps they made the boot too tight or something. I have tried multiple pairs of both skating and combi boots, but I get exactly the same kind of problems as you do. However, when I instead wear my (much cheaper!) soft classic touring boots, everything is OK. I do quite a bit of skating as well in those boots, and yes, that is more tiring than with a proper pair of skating boots, but otoh, it doesn't hurt! I.e. try skiing in low/soft classic boots and see what happens: This is more like a pair of sneakers than modern ski boots. Terje -- - Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" Thanks Terje, The boots I had were for classic, but I'm not sure if they would be called soft. Do you have any brand/model recommendations? Is this something that I might have to find used? cheers |
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On Dec 2, 8:33*pm, sluggo wrote:
Hi there, I haven't skied for a few years because of foot pain. Almost the whole of the bottom of my foot gets extremely sore very soon after starting to ski. 20 min is about all I can do before having to go sit down some where. I get the exact same foot pain when doing ice skating. I think I had the same pain once when I did a long walk in barefeet along a beach with compacted sand. I was diagnosed with plantar faciatis years ago and have orthodics for it. I don't really get PF symptoms anymore, and it's not clear to me if the pain I get from skiing is plantar fasciitis. I have tried to ski with my orthotics and from what I recall, they made it even worse. I'd like to give skiing another shot but could use some advice on what may be causing my pain. If it an arch issue or something like that, I don't quite understand why the orthotics didn't help. Perhaps they made the boot too tight or something. thanks Hi, Have you tried experimenting with different heel heights? I had achilles tendon issues for years, and it ultimately really helped to find the proper ramp angle for running shoes, ski boots,etc. A simple heel wedge under the orthotic (or without it) might help. For me, too much heel lift wasn't good, but there was an optimal angle between that and being too low. Also, have you seen a physical therapist? They could probably do some work on your foot to mobilize it, and could give you some suggestions for exercises and stretching. A stretch that a PT gave me years ago has helped me to pretty much resolve my achilles issues. Good luck. Bill |
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sluggo wrote:
The boots I had were for classic, but I'm not sure if they would be called soft. Do you have any brand/model recommendations? Is this something that I might have to find used? I have used many models over the years, all NNN "light touring" boots. The current pair(s) are alpina NNN 311. Terje -- - Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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On 12/3/2010 1:10 PM, sluggo wrote:
On Dec 2, 11:55 pm, Terje Mathisen"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no" wrote: sluggo wrote: Hi there, I haven't skied for a few years because of foot pain. Almost the whole of the bottom of my foot gets extremely sore very soon after starting to ski. 20 min is about all I can do before having to go sit down some where. I get the exact same foot pain when doing ice skating. I think I had the same pain once when I did a long walk in barefeet along a beach with compacted sand. I think I know what the problem is... I was diagnosed with plantar faciatis years ago and have orthodics for it. I don't really get PF symptoms anymore, and it's not clear to me if the pain I get from skiing is plantar fasciitis. I have tried to ski with my orthotics and from what I recall, they made it even worse. Yes, that's like me. I wore orthopedic insoles for about 5 years, ending about 30 years ago. I'd like to give skiing another shot but could use some advice on what may be causing my pain. If it an arch issue or something like that, I don't quite understand why the orthotics didn't help. Perhaps they made the boot too tight or something. I have tried multiple pairs of both skating and combi boots, but I get exactly the same kind of problems as you do. However, when I instead wear my (much cheaper!) soft classic touring boots, everything is OK. I do quite a bit of skating as well in those boots, and yes, that is more tiring than with a proper pair of skating boots, but otoh, it doesn't hurt! I.e. try skiing in low/soft classic boots and see what happens: This is more like a pair of sneakers than modern ski boots. Terje -- -Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" Thanks Terje, The boots I had were for classic, but I'm not sure if they would be called soft. Do you have any brand/model recommendations? Is this something that I might have to find used? cheers re; soft ski boots The Whitewoods 302 is quite flexible for a classic ski boot. I have the 301 version and find them comparable to a light hiking boot, much less stiff than most xc boots. Another thought, may not help, but should not hurt; Try excentric calf exercise. These seem to strengthen various foot muscles as well as calf. http://www.carletonsportsmed.com/chr...tendinitis.htm |
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