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Worsnop is there ? Wow, how cool. Lucky guy and elite wave too...
Fun. I hope we will get an update on finishers AS SOON as someone out there finds them ! JK I am hoping Joergen Aukland will finally win a big one. But Oskar Svard has to be the sentimental favorite in his home country... any other Swedish long distance classic guys up there? Go Sverige ! JK |
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, 32 degrees wrote:
Worsnop is there ? Wow, how cool. Lucky guy and elite wave too... Fun. I hope we will get an update on finishers AS SOON as someone out there finds them ! You don't have to wait for updates from the list - just go to the Vasaloppet web site, using the name to find the bib no., and follow their progress through the checkpoints, in real time. Of course to do this from where I am, I'd have to be up at 1am for the start. -Ken ************************************************** ********* Kenneth Salzberg Hamline University School of Law (651) 523-2354 1536 Hewitt Ave. Sisu Skier - 50K Club St. Paul, MN 55104 ************************************************** **************** |
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How about this... I predict he'll win a few town sprints but win the
race? I'll put my money on Oskar Svard, Daniel Tynell or Peter Goransson. Jay Tegeder "I faders spar for framtids segrar" "Gary Jacobson" wrote in message news: May I boldly predict a win for Stanislav Rezac this year. That's my hope, and it is surely a possibility. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY |
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Terje Mathisen wrote in message ...
1971: First Norwegian victory All together now: "...and the last Norwegian victory!":-) Well, in any case, the *only* Norwegian victory. So far... I know!!! :-( Well, this year´s victory won´t be the last Norwegian one, either:-) (And I don´t need to remind myself that the last *Finnish* victory stems from 1973 - and the next one isn´t around the corner...) Anders |
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David Dermott wrote in message ...
According to the book "Orienteering" (Hans Bengtsson,1977) the first civilian Ski-O competition was held in Sweden Mar 4, 1900! The first civilian dry-land O competition was in Norway Oct 7 1900. Before that there were O competitions (on and off skis) in the military. Finnish and Norwegian history books have one thing in common: their authors aren´t too keen to give credit for anything to Swedes and they don´t feel a need to make a distinction between military and civilian competitions:-) My understanding was that the sport as we know it (with multiple controls) is a more recent (early 1960s) invention (made possible by the proliferation of snowmobiles), but it appears I was wrong by a good decade. (Which means Kuvaja could´ve dabbled in it, too.) The "historical" ski-0 was basically a "free route" (from start to finish/relay point) long distance race (usually a relay one). "Modern", organized ski-O stems from - and I may be quite wrong here - late 1950´s. It looks like it has been sunny in Mora for the last few days. A coldish night and a warm, sunny day meant that temperature at the start was -7 C and later +7 C - it wasn´t probably a very easy race for the "blueberry soup" skiers... BTW Janne seems to have mastered the conditions well enough: 05:46:47 - gratulerar:-) Anders |
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Anders Lustig wrote: David Dermott wrote in message ... According to the book "Orienteering" (Hans Bengtsson,1977) the first civilian Ski-O competition was held in Sweden Mar 4, 1900! The first civilian dry-land O competition was in Norway Oct 7 1900. Before that there were O competitions (on and off skis) in the military. Finnish and Norwegian history books have one thing in common: their authors arent too keen to give credit for anything to Swedes and they dont feel a need to make a distinction between military and civilian competitions:-) Hans is Swedish but he lives in the USA and has for quite a long time. The book David mentioned is in English and I'm pretty certain was written here. I can no longer find my copy to actually verify this. Hans was, if memory serves, the or one of the principal driving forces behind the creation of the New England Orienteering Club, which is now one of the largest clubs in this country, even after having spawned off a few other clubs over the years. Hans's daughter, Malin, skied in the 1992 ski-O world championships in Pontarlier, France, as part of the United States team. My understanding was that the sport as we know it (with multiple controls) is a more recent (early 1960s) invention (made possible by the proliferation of snowmobiles), but it appears I was wrong by a good decade. (Which means Kuvaja couldve dabbled in it, too.) The "historical" ski-0 was basically a "free route" (from start to finish/relay point) long distance race (usually a relay one). "Modern", organized ski-O stems from - and I may be quite wrong here - late 1950s. I don't know the intervening history all that well but again if memory serves correctly, the Mar 4, 1900 Swedish ski-O event claimed as "first" is supposed to have had 3 control points. It was certainly long-distance but I _think_ it is supposed to have finished at or near the starting point. If I could find my copy of the book I could look. This is, though, the story as it reached this country many years after the fact. How accurately it was maintained before arriving here I can't say. :-) -Mitch |
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Orienteering (was: !Vasaloppet!)
On 9 Mar 2004, Mitch Collinsworth wrote:
Hans is Swedish but he lives in the USA and has for quite a long time. The book David mentioned is in English and I'm pretty certain was written here. I can no longer find my copy to actually verify this. Hans was, if memory serves, the or one of the principal driving forces behind the creation of the New England Orienteering Club, which is now one of the largest clubs in this country, even after having spawned off a few other clubs over the years. Hans's daughter, Malin, skied in the 1992 ski-O world championships in Pontarlier, France, as part of the United States team. The book "Orienteering" by Hans Bengtsson and George Atkinson was published in 1977 by Stephen Greene Press, Brattleboro Vermont. I found the book in a used book store a few years ago. An interesting comment in the book was that the first documented use of the word "Orientering" was from Norway on the winners certificate from sports club Tjalve in Oslo (Christiania), Oct 1900. I don't know the intervening history all that well but again if memory serves correctly, the Mar 4, 1900 Swedish ski-O event claimed as "first" is supposed to have had 3 control points. It was certainly long-distance but I _think_ it is supposed to have finished at or near the starting point. If I could find my copy of the book I could look. That event was a relay race between Bollnäs and Härnösand - 175 km. It was held in a blizzard with the winning team finishing in 28 hours 27 min! The book also mentions that ski-O started in North America in 1949 at Turin, NY -- David Dermott , Wolfville Ridge, Nova Scotia, Canada email: WWW pages: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ |
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, David Dermott wrote: The book also mentions that ski-O started in North America in 1949 at Turin, NY Wow, Turin. That's on the eastern end of the Tug Hill plateau, maybe about 3 hours from here. I've been orienteering and ski-orienteering all over these parts and there has never been any event there in the last 20 years anyway. I've never even heard of any x-c ski races being held there. There is a ski area there that I believe I've heard includes some x-c trails. -Mitch |
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, gary jacobson wrote: Is that Snow Ridge? Yes, that sounds right. -Mitch |
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