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My Thoughts
You know, when I saw Bode's interview on TV my first reaction was "What
an A--hole". My wife's reaction was the same. After considering it a bit more, I have changed my opinion. I equate it to something like this: The 8 year old has been playing with his favorite radio controlled car in the driveway, and although he has been told not to drive it out in the street he does so anyway, and it gets run over by a truck, totally smashing it. Now his dad is pointing out the error in his ways, asking what he was thinking, and getting no response he finally says in exasperation "Well I'm not going to buy you a new one!". The mumbled response, calculated to provide the most irritation is "Doenkeer". In actual fact, he does care, a lot, but he will never let on that he knows his actions produced an undesirable result. I think Bode was realizing that his party living, lack of preparation and training, and general lackadaisical approach had produced what they usually produce, and what he had been warned they would produce. Now, confronted with it his response is "Doenkeer". My thoughts. C. |
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On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:47:20 GMT, CParker
wrote: My thoughts. Wrong. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager Gun Control: Keep muzzle pointed at target. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom |
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Got any thoughts on the vile lies, the gross stalking, the psychpathic
amorality of rsa regulars? Doenkeer, eh? "CParker" wrote in message ... You know, when I saw Bode's interview on TV my first reaction was "What an A--hole". My wife's reaction was the same. After considering it a bit more, I have changed my opinion. I equate it to something like this: The 8 year old has been playing with his favorite radio controlled car in the driveway, and although he has been told not to drive it out in the street he does so anyway, and it gets run over by a truck, totally smashing it. Now his dad is pointing out the error in his ways, asking what he was thinking, and getting no response he finally says in exasperation "Well I'm not going to buy you a new one!". The mumbled response, calculated to provide the most irritation is "Doenkeer". In actual fact, he does care, a lot, but he will never let on that he knows his actions produced an undesirable result. I think Bode was realizing that his party living, lack of preparation and training, and general lackadaisical approach had produced what they usually produce, and what he had been warned they would produce. Now, confronted with it his response is "Doenkeer". My thoughts. C. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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CParker wrote:
I think Bode was realizing that his party living, lack of preparation and training, and general lackadaisical approach had produced what they usually produce, and what he had been warned they would produce. Which leads right back to the questions. What "lack of preparation and training, and general lackadaisical approach?" Can you offer ANY substantiation for any of these claims? Even for "party living" beyond visiting the village and mingling with the athletes? OK, I'll let you off one hook - he DOES lack SL specific training days that the technical specialists have, but ONLY because he's racing all the disciplines and doesn't have time (look at the WC schedule for confirmation of lack of time) - but that's not unique to him - all the generalists have that problem. As for the rest of your claims - they're BS, inventions of a media feeding frenzy and they sucked you in. In every Olympic race Miller had, his splits were solid and competitive. No way was his prep poor, his skiing approach lackadaisical, or his general ski training suspect. Think again, and then give us some your new thoughts. |
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Alex Heney wrote: On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:47:20 GMT, CParker wrote: My thoughts. Wrong. Zing! |
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lal_truckee wrote:
CParker wrote: I think Bode was realizing that his party living, lack of preparation and training, and general lackadaisical approach had produced what they usually produce, and what he had been warned they would produce. Which leads right back to the questions. What "lack of preparation and training, and general lackadaisical approach?" Can you offer ANY substantiation for any of these claims? Even for "party living" beyond visiting the village and mingling with the athletes? OK, I'll let you off one hook - he DOES lack SL specific training days that the technical specialists have, but ONLY because he's racing all the disciplines and doesn't have time (look at the WC schedule for confirmation of lack of time) - but that's not unique to him - all the generalists have that problem. He's got plenty of time now that he's not going on the Asian trip. Maybe he can use that time to get his head on straight and decide if he wants to party or ski competitively. I've got a question for everyone. What's the point of skiing in the finals if he's not going to Asia, has no chance of accumulating points for the next few weeks, and has no chance of winning anything? It's obviously not about trying to win (and neither was the Olympics for Mr. Miller.) Do you think it might be about sponsors and money? Or is it just "one last chance to party with everyone before they go home"? Or maybe it's just a chance to ski without any pressure to win. What do you think? (This is not a troll but a serious question) |
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Chuck wrote: I've got a question for everyone. What's the point of skiing in the finals if he's not going to Asia, has no chance of accumulating points for the next few weeks, and has no chance of winning anything? There might not be a point for you, or for a lot of folks. Particularly in the USA, competitive athletics is something that few adults participate in, and I'm not sure which is the chicken and which is the egg: whether the competition doesn't exist because we don't want to compete, or whether we don't compete because there are few avenues for it. Many people in the US don't want to compete in sports when they have no realistic chances of winning -- they feel that under those circumstances, there is no point. I'm not going to tell them that they're wrong, but personally I find it sad. There is a point in trying, and...I dunno, stepping up to the plate and being willing to try, that can teach you things even if you do whiff. And there are a very great many skiers who will be at the finals and who also have no shot at a crystal globe. I think they'd be surprised if someone suggested that there was no point in their being there because they had no chance of winning. Of course, for them, they can improve their situation sponsors with just one really good result, but that's not Bode's situation. I dunno. I suspect for both Bode and others, the thought is something like, "I've got a chance to compete in a World Cup race; of course I'm gonna be there." It's obviously not about trying to win (and neither was the Olympics for Mr. Miller.) Do you think it might be about sponsors and money? Or is it just "one last chance to party with everyone before they go home"? Or maybe it's just a chance to ski without any pressure to win. What do you think? I'm sure there's some sponsor pressure (or "encouragement") on every sponsored racer, but I don't think that's a huge factor here. Nor do I think the party is a big deal, although Bode seems to genuinely get along well with the other racers, and there is always something special about the last event of the year, before everybody hangs it up and goes home. The guy loves to ski, and he loves to ski as well as he can, and to do that, he's got to ski against the best. I think his biggest mistake over the past few years was the insistence on skiing in every race. It was an awesome feat, but I think it had a heavy cost. He's learned that he can be the best skier in the world in any event, but he can't be the best skier in the world at _every_ event. That's the big problem that he's got to come to terms with. (This is not a troll but a serious question) Understood. Thanks for the good and thought-provoking question. |
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Chuck wrote:
I've got a question for everyone. What's the point of skiing in the finals if he's not going to Asia, has no chance of accumulating points for the next few weeks, and has no chance of winning anything? It's obviously not about trying to win (and neither was the Olympics for Mr. Miller.) http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/disciplines/alpineskiing/cupstandings.html Each race is a separate event. What do you mean, not trying to win? Look at the standings site referenced above - all 144 of those racers are trying to win every race they enter. Only 5-10 have any realistic chance of wining any given race. So why to they race? You tell me. BTW, once more you make a crack about Miller which, since I'm feeling generous I'll attribute to ignorance rather than malice. Given that Miller placed high in two Olympic races and had excellent splits in others, why would you say he was "not trying to win" unless you are parroting someone without sense to look at the results? I postulate that DNF (did not finish) seems to non-skiers the equivalent of giving up and that DQ (disqualified) seems to non-skiers the equivalent of breaking a rule. Neither is the case. Do some research. |
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"lal_truckee" wrote in message . com... Chuck wrote: I've got a question for everyone. What's the point of skiing in the finals if he's not going to Asia, has no chance of accumulating points for the next few weeks, and has no chance of winning anything? It's obviously not about trying to win (and neither was the Olympics for Mr. Miller.) http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/disciplines/alpineskiing/cupstandings.html Each race is a separate event. What do you mean, not trying to win? Look at the standings site referenced above - all 144 of those racers are trying to win every race they enter. Only 5-10 have any realistic chance of wining any given race. So why to they race? You tell me. BTW, once more you make a crack about Miller which, since I'm feeling generous I'll attribute to ignorance rather than malice. Given that Miller placed high in two Olympic races and had excellent splits in others, why would you say he was "not trying to win" unless you are parroting someone without sense to look at the results? It sounds like a red herring debate starter quote. miller may not have been at his best, or maybe he was just bested. who knows, and at this point only miller should care. I don't and don't know anyone outside the media who does. |
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lal_truckee wrote:
Chuck wrote: I've got a question for everyone. What's the point of skiing in the finals if he's not going to Asia, has no chance of accumulating points for the next few weeks, and has no chance of winning anything? It's obviously not about trying to win (and neither was the Olympics for Mr. Miller.) http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/disciplines/alpineskiing/cupstandings.html Each race is a separate event. What do you mean, not trying to win? Look at the standings site referenced above - all 144 of those racers are trying to win every race they enter. Only 5-10 have any realistic chance of wining any given race. So why to they race? You tell me. BTW, once more you make a crack about Miller which, since I'm feeling generous I'll attribute to ignorance rather than malice. Given that Miller placed high in two Olympic races and had excellent splits in others, why would you say he was "not trying to win" unless you are parroting someone without sense to look at the results? I postulate that DNF (did not finish) seems to non-skiers the equivalent of giving up and that DQ (disqualified) seems to non-skiers the equivalent of breaking a rule. Neither is the case. Do some research. Actually DQ (disqualified) *is* breaking a rule. That are lots of reasons to be DQ'ed besides missing a gate. Like equipment that is deemed illegal according to FIS rules, failing a post race drug test, etc. Anyway I am digressing. It just seems odd that he'd drop out of the Asian tour effectively killing any chance that he'd have of winning a globe, but is skiing the finals. |
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