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Xmas/New Year snow
Ace wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:39:00 +0100, Sarah Eggleston wrote: Failing a crystal ball for the 2003/4 and 2004/5 seasons (I wish!), does anyone have anecdotal evidence of Christmas/New Year snow reliability over the past few seasons? Why not check out the historic snow reports on the Ski Club website? surely better than mere 'anecdotal evidence'. Mainly because I find it rather unusable. First you have to select by resort rather than by region, and if you choose "all years", you get the average of all years, rather than a comparison between them. Of course, you can go through a couple of resorts one year at a time, but it's a rather user-unfriendly process. On the other hand, I love the SCGB's online copy of the Which Good Ski Guide :-) -Sarah |
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I don't think history really helps plan pre-Xmas trips at all. Somewhere
could get tons of snow in November, that could melt 2 weeks later. I would however say that in the US thanksgiving is a key day for them so many resorts blow alot of snow to get many runs open in time for that. Last year there was some amazing powder piccies floating around from Utah in October! for example: http://www.skistreak.com/2002/pics/oct/ http://www.thecanyons.com/skiing-riding/video.html regards, greg |
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Cannot comment on Austria/France. I have one experience of Italy at
Christmas. Was in Canazei 5 years ago during Christmas. Lots of snow, however very cold, -28 in town, -32 on mountain. Italians wore full face masks. Long trips in lifts was a pain. I belive we saw the sun once during the week. Days are short this time of the year. Snow conditions were good though. However very unexciting. Christmas eve at midnight, we went to the local church for midnight ceremoni. Of good memories from the trip this event is what comes to mind, - it was fantastic, all locals where there, proud mothers and farthers watching there sons in the corous. It was a full catholic ceremony, with lots of Ave Marias and Halelujas, and all the gold and silver belonging to the church was in use. Afterwards everyone lined up and was blessed individually. There was torches outside, all over. Very beutifull and very memoriable. (appoligies for bad english, didn't care for looking up all words) "Sarah Eggleston" skrev i en meddelelse ... Failing a crystal ball for the 2003/4 and 2004/5 seasons (I wish!), does anyone have anecdotal evidence of Christmas/New Year snow reliability over the past few seasons? Is Austria (historically) better than France? Or vice versa? If there's no snow at all, how busy are the glaciers? Do snow cannons make a difference and which resorts have the most? Is it worth the extra cost and jetlag of a trek across the Atlantic for more reliable snow cover?? (We've skied the last 3 years at Easter and are getting fed up with ice and slush.) -Sarah PS would anyone like to re-employ some teachers at a school which has holidays in Jan/Feb?? |
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Sarah Eggleston wrote:
Ace wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:39:00 +0100, Sarah Eggleston wrote: Failing a crystal ball for the 2003/4 and 2004/5 seasons (I wish!), does anyone have anecdotal evidence of Christmas/New Year snow reliability over the past few seasons? Why not check out the historic snow reports on the Ski Club website? surely better than mere 'anecdotal evidence'. Mainly because I find it rather unusable. FYI: If you can use a spreadsheet I've recently put Christian Gibert's raw snow record data on-line on my site: http://www.pistehors.com/resorts/christian-gibert/ There is French resort data going back to 1990, with Excel you could plot your own graphs and averages. I've not looked at the Ski Club data so can't tell you how much the formats vary but they do cover resorts all over the planet which is useful. I will also give you some anecdotal evidence based on the skiing I've done. Over the last few years in the French Alps there has been reasonable early season snow (late November) followed by a warm period around Christmas with poor snow. The weather generally breaks around New Year. In France, I would choose a resort with slopes between 2000 - 2750 meters. Can't tell you much about Austria, it is 10 years since I've skied there and there always seemed to be grass on the last 100 meters of any slope! But even in an awful year, like last Christmas, you can find snow to ski on and have fun, even if you do spend most of boxing day squelching around in driving rain! |
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Sarah,
Over the last 5 years, I have been every year skiing in Haute-Savoie (France) either for Xmas or New Year. In 2 occasions, we arrived with the snow, (Xmas each time) but never ever we have been without snow. But this is highly dependent of local conditions and the level of equipment of the resorts. Where we ski ("Grand Massif" Area) we never had any problem from Xmas till Eastern. Dominique Foucart www.loc-alpes.com Sarah Eggleston wrote in message ... Failing a crystal ball for the 2003/4 and 2004/5 seasons (I wish!), does anyone have anecdotal evidence of Christmas/New Year snow reliability over the past few seasons? Is Austria (historically) better than France? Or vice versa? If there's no snow at all, how busy are the glaciers? Do snow cannons make a difference and which resorts have the most? Is it worth the extra cost and jetlag of a trek across the Atlantic for more reliable snow cover?? (We've skied the last 3 years at Easter and are getting fed up with ice and slush.) -Sarah PS would anyone like to re-employ some teachers at a school which has holidays in Jan/Feb?? |
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Hi,
If you are looking for good snow at Christmas/New Year how about trying Tignes. Tignes is at 2100m so is higher than almost all other European resorts so it is as close to a snowsure resort as you can get. If you check the Ski Club of Great Britain site it shows an average of 49cm (lower) and 136cm (upper) for Christmas week and 76cm and 152cm for the New Year week. Linked with Val D'Isere it also offers some of the best skiing in the Alps. We have a fabulous chalet in Tignes and would be happy to welcome you. Please see www.snowstarholidays.com and also www.tignes.net. Thanks, Richard. SNOWSTAR Holidays Phone/Fax: 020 8686 6610 email: web: www.snowstarholidays.com "Sarah Eggleston" wrote in message ... Failing a crystal ball for the 2003/4 and 2004/5 seasons (I wish!), does anyone have anecdotal evidence of Christmas/New Year snow reliability over the past few seasons? Is Austria (historically) better than France? Or vice versa? If there's no snow at all, how busy are the glaciers? Do snow cannons make a difference and which resorts have the most? Is it worth the extra cost and jetlag of a trek across the Atlantic for more reliable snow cover?? (We've skied the last 3 years at Easter and are getting fed up with ice and slush.) -Sarah PS would anyone like to re-employ some teachers at a school which has holidays in Jan/Feb?? |
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:54:13 +0100, "Richard"
wrote: snip We have a fabulous chalet in Tignes and would be happy to welcome you. Please see www.snowstarholidays.com and also www.tignes.net. Now one commercial posting might be acceptable - many would regard two as spam... but seeing as you're ski club affiliated I'll llet you off :-) -- Ace (bruce dot rogers at roche dot com) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
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Ace wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:54:13 +0100, "Richard" wrote: snip We have a fabulous chalet in Tignes and would be happy to welcome you. Please see www.snowstarholidays.com and also www.tignes.net. Now one commercial posting might be acceptable - many would regard two as spam... but seeing as you're ski club affiliated I'll llet you off :-) I feckin' won't.... abuse report filed ;-) -- Trophy 1200 750SS CB400F TS150 ST70 YTC#3 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 IHABWTJ#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 OSOS#1 BOF#30 WUSS#5 "Worse than Timo" - Official |
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I went to Livigno in Italy last Christmas.. really cheap, and really good
snow.. its all above 1800m and up to 3000m.. not anywhere near as big as some of the french and other italian resorts, but plenty for one week.. I am even considering going back this year cause its so cheap! "Sarah Eggleston" wrote in message ... Failing a crystal ball for the 2003/4 and 2004/5 seasons (I wish!), does anyone have anecdotal evidence of Christmas/New Year snow reliability over the past few seasons? Is Austria (historically) better than France? Or vice versa? If there's no snow at all, how busy are the glaciers? Do snow cannons make a difference and which resorts have the most? Is it worth the extra cost and jetlag of a trek across the Atlantic for more reliable snow cover?? (We've skied the last 3 years at Easter and are getting fed up with ice and slush.) -Sarah PS would anyone like to re-employ some teachers at a school which has holidays in Jan/Feb?? |
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