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Trying to decide St. Anton, Lech, Stuben - Austria



 
 
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Old September 3rd 03, 10:30 PM
Stephan
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Default Trying to decide St. Anton, Lech, Stuben - Austria

Related question: Stuben looks nice, how is the ski slope access
from there ?


Stuben has a ski area above it that's known for it's powder skiing. When you
want to get to St.Anton you first have to take the Albona I (slow 2p chair).
Then you can ski down to 'Alpe Rauz' where you can take the 'Valfagehr'
(slow 3p chair). Up there you're in the main ski area of St.Anton with a
simple run all the way back to St.Anton. In the afternoon you can ski back
to Stuben without taking lifts from Valluga, Schindler and Galzig. Advantage
of Stuben is that there are almost no queues in the morning and that you can
take the free bus from 'Alpe Rauz' to Zurs/Lech. It takes longer to get to
'Alpe Rauz' from St. Anton.
I'd choose Stuben 'cause it's a nice little village with good powder skiing
above it.

However, if you have the money, Lech is a great option as well. There will
be some new fast chair lifts which should take away some of the queues.

I didn't like St.Anton for the queues up to Galzig or Gampen. However, if
you live in another village you will probably never explore the Rendl area,
which is also nice.

- Last questions: Train versus Arlberg Express bus from Zurich ?
Which is a nicer view/ride ?


They both take the same route I guess. I would take the train from Zurich to
Langen am Arlberg, which is a stop for intn'l trains. From there you can
take a taxi or bus to Lech. A bus from Zurich would also pass Langen.

You can take a look at my map:
http://melba.student.utwente.nl/step...lberg_topo.jpg Only
the main lifts are shown. The links for the original trail maps are on the
map.

-Stephan


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Old September 4th 03, 12:17 AM
Blue Ice
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Default Trying to decide St. Anton, Lech, Stuben - Austria

Go to France...


"Cedric Marvin" wrote in message
om...
Thanks to all who posted to the recent threads about
St. Anton, Lech, etc.

We (me and girlfriend) are planning our first ski trip to Europe for
late January to the Arlberg and we are trying to choose between St. Anton,
Lech, and Stuben. What would you choose ?

- We are early to bed / sleep all night / ski from lift
opening to closing people.
I have read here and there that St. Anton can be really a noisy party
town - things like being woken up by drunks outside yelling out on the
street at 3 AM. Is this really the case ? How much a factor is this
in choosing Lech over St. Anton ?

- My girlfriend is a "middle" intermediate (I ski everything), I have
heard that Lech has more intermediate terrain close in, but at St. Anton
you can download from the easier upper slopes if your choose at the
end of the day. Any opinions on this ? Is Lech worth the additional
money over St. Anton (remember, we don't care much about nightlife).
Related question: Stuben looks nice, how is the ski slope access
from there ?

- Last questions: Train versus Arlberg Express bus from Zurich ?
Which is a nicer view/ride ? If my destination is Lech how do I get there
from the train station. I have heard that in snowy weather the roads
may be closed, but the train may be running - is this a concern ?
Arlberg Express has an easy web site. RailEurope seems to be the best
place for US people to buy the train tickets - any opinions here ?

Thanks in advance for any advice and opinions ?

Cedric



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Old September 4th 03, 07:07 AM
Ace
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Default Trying to decide St. Anton, Lech, Stuben - Austria

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 00:17:07 GMT, "Blue Ice"
wrote:

Go to France...


Very helpful.

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All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club.
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Old September 4th 03, 09:08 AM
Ian Spare
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Default Trying to decide St. Anton, Lech, Stuben - Austria

On 3 Sep 2003 10:48:01 -0700, (Cedric Marvin)
wrote:

Thanks to all who posted to the recent threads about
St. Anton, Lech, etc.

We (me and girlfriend) are planning our first ski trip to Europe for
late January to the Arlberg and we are trying to choose between St. Anton,
Lech, and Stuben. What would you choose ?


Lech or Stuben, the downside of Stuben is it can seem a long drag in
the mornings riding lifts to get anywhere and it'q really small. A
couple of bars and restuarants and a couple of shops. I love it but
it's not going to be to everyone's taste.

- We are early to bed / sleep all night / ski from lift
opening to closing people.
I have read here and there that St. Anton can be really a noisy party
town - things like being woken up by drunks outside yelling out on the
street at 3 AM. Is this really the case ? How much a factor is this
in choosing Lech over St. Anton ?


If you're on the main street in Lech it can be noisy, not in the
league of St Anton though. There's some really nice hotels just out of
the main centre, say 5 mins walk, that I'd recommend. But they're just
about all good, competition is fierce and the quality is high.


- My girlfriend is a "middle" intermediate (I ski everything), I have
heard that Lech has more intermediate terrain close in, but at St. Anton
you can download from the easier upper slopes if your choose at the
end of the day. Any opinions on this ? Is Lech worth the additional
money over St. Anton (remember, we don't care much about nightlife).


How do you know it's more? Are you getting quotes from the hotels or
through agents?

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Old September 4th 03, 10:54 AM
Greg Hilton
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Default Trying to decide St. Anton, Lech, Stuben - Austria

- We are early to bed / sleep all night / ski from lift
opening to closing people.
I have read here and there that St. Anton can be really a noisy
party
town - things like being woken up by drunks outside yelling out on the
street at 3 AM. Is this really the case ?


It all depends on your exact location. I've stayed in St Anton but outside
the main town so this wasn't an issue.

However Lech is a much prettier place IMHO, and with less queues in the
morning.

regards,

greg

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Old September 4th 03, 12:05 PM
Neil Walker
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Snip

I didn't like St.Anton for the queues up to Galzig or Gampen. However, if
you live in another village you will probably never explore the Rendl

area,
which is also nice.

I skied St Anton about 17 years ago and the queues were horrnendous in the
morning. Are they really still that bad? , as I was think of returning this
season, but not if I have to go through that again!

Regards
Neil.


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Old September 4th 03, 12:46 PM
Stephan
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Default Trying to decide St. Anton, Lech, Stuben - Austria

I skied St Anton about 17 years ago and the queues were horrnendous in the
morning. Are they really still that bad? , as I was think of returning

this
season, but not if I have to go through that again!


I was there the 2nd week of december 2002. That's not high-season so the
queues were acceptable, but the Gampen quad (which we took most of the time)
still had a 5-10min. queue. If they would replace the Galzig tram it would
take the pressure away from the Gampen quad an of course you can get to
Galzig without waiting.

-Stephan


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Old September 6th 03, 08:31 AM
Jeremy Westhead
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Default Trying to decide St. Anton, Lech, Stuben - Austria

I am going to Lech for two weeks this year (one in January / one in March),
having been every year for about 10 year (preceeded by 2 years in Stuben).
I therefore might be biased!

Stuben is very quiet, which might appeal, but the runs back to the resort
are limited and (relatively) dull (IMHO).

St Anton always strikes me as ugly/busy/noisy - more like a town at home.
Again down the to the town isn't that great, and it can be a bit bare at
times.

Lech is beautiful (Oberlech more so - no cars), and the skiing is fantastic.
My parents/wife ski on piste and it covers the whole range of intermediates.
Well groomed, and I have never queued more than 4/5 minutes for a lift, and
that length would be unusual. I ski mostly off-piste and never cease to be
amazed by the variety (I have a guide). Most of the visitors to lech are
not looking for off-piste therefore untracked snow can be found for weeks
after a fall.

Lech has several "ice bars" in the main street which can be very noisy after
skiing. I stay at the Haldenhof which is about 3 minutes from the main
street - a beautiful hotel run by lovely people - most of the serving staff
return year after year. They always arrange my transfers/ski lessons/ski
pass etc.

The pass into the Lech valley (flexenpass) is sometimes blocked by snow.
Never happened to me. I think it was blocked for three days last year. I
can't remember the name of the pass into St Anton (goes through St
Christoph) - but this too can be blocked. I usually catch the Arlberg
Express - comes into the centre of Lech (next to the cable car to Oberlech)
and the hotel will usually come and collect you from the bus in a car. If
they know what flight you are coming in on and it is slightly delayed they
will wait...

Drop me a note if you want any more info.

Cheers

"Cedric Marvin" wrote in message
om...
Thanks to all who posted to the recent threads about
St. Anton, Lech, etc.

We (me and girlfriend) are planning our first ski trip to Europe for
late January to the Arlberg and we are trying to choose between St. Anton,
Lech, and Stuben. What would you choose ?

- We are early to bed / sleep all night / ski from lift
opening to closing people.
I have read here and there that St. Anton can be really a noisy party
town - things like being woken up by drunks outside yelling out on the
street at 3 AM. Is this really the case ? How much a factor is this
in choosing Lech over St. Anton ?

- My girlfriend is a "middle" intermediate (I ski everything), I have
heard that Lech has more intermediate terrain close in, but at St. Anton
you can download from the easier upper slopes if your choose at the
end of the day. Any opinions on this ? Is Lech worth the additional
money over St. Anton (remember, we don't care much about nightlife).
Related question: Stuben looks nice, how is the ski slope access
from there ?

- Last questions: Train versus Arlberg Express bus from Zurich ?
Which is a nicer view/ride ? If my destination is Lech how do I get there
from the train station. I have heard that in snowy weather the roads
may be closed, but the train may be running - is this a concern ?
Arlberg Express has an easy web site. RailEurope seems to be the best
place for US people to buy the train tickets - any opinions here ?

Thanks in advance for any advice and opinions ?

Cedric



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Old September 6th 03, 09:32 AM
Ian Spare
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Default Trying to decide St. Anton, Lech, Stuben - Austria

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 08:31:38 +0000 (UTC), "Jeremy Westhead"
wrote:

I am going to Lech for two weeks this year (one in January / one in March),
having been every year for about 10 year (preceeded by 2 years in Stuben).
I therefore might be biased!

Stuben is very quiet, which might appeal, but the runs back to the resort
are limited and (relatively) dull (IMHO).

St Anton always strikes me as ugly/busy/noisy - more like a town at home.
Again down the to the town isn't that great, and it can be a bit bare at
times.

Lech is beautiful (Oberlech more so - no cars), and the skiing is fantastic.
My parents/wife ski on piste and it covers the whole range of intermediates.
Well groomed, and I have never queued more than 4/5 minutes for a lift, and
that length would be unusual. I ski mostly off-piste and never cease to be
amazed by the variety (I have a guide). Most of the visitors to lech are
not looking for off-piste therefore untracked snow can be found for weeks
after a fall.

Lech has several "ice bars" in the main street which can be very noisy after
skiing. I stay at the Haldenhof which is about 3 minutes from the main
street - a beautiful hotel run by lovely people - most of the serving staff
return year after year. They always arrange my transfers/ski lessons/ski
pass etc.

The pass into the Lech valley (flexenpass) is sometimes blocked by snow.
Never happened to me. I think it was blocked for three days last year. I
can't remember the name of the pass into St Anton (goes through St
Christoph) - but this too can be blocked. I usually catch the Arlberg
Express - comes into the centre of Lech (next to the cable car to Oberlech)
and the hotel will usually come and collect you from the bus in a car. If
they know what flight you are coming in on and it is slightly delayed they
will wait...

Drop me a note if you want any more info.


It's impossible to add much to that :-) Lech may just be the perfect
ski station... I have some photos from Xmass 2001
http://www.pbase.com/ianspare/lech

Ian

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Old September 7th 03, 06:01 PM
Turan Fettahoglu
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Default Trying to decide St. Anton, Lech, Stuben - Austria

We (me and girlfriend) are planning our first ski trip to Europe for
late January to the Arlberg and we are trying to choose between St. Anton,
Lech, and Stuben. What would you choose ?


None of these, they are considered as expensive and not for people who just
sleep at night.

Try the Pitztal (glacier, ski bus, train station at Imst), Katschberghöhe
(no glacier, ski runs begin right at the hotels, train station at Radstadt)
or the Zillertal (glacier, lots of ski runs, ski bus).

You seem to be interested in trains, so perhaps the narrow-gauge trains
through the Zillertal might be worth a recommendation.

Best regards
Turan


 




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