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bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Mar.31.04@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote in message ...
_ If you don't kick'n'glide or skate, then fixed length poles are probably a better way to go. Just back from Norway, where kick and glide is the name of the game for a lot of touring. A *lot* of people with fixed length poles, including me this time. Previously I've used BD Flicklocks and I'd crank them up for skating, but I don't skate too much with a big pack and snow you sink a bit in. I do find adjustables useful, but mainly as a one size does track as well as downhill cost saver rather than something I fiddle about with during a day's touring. Pete. -- Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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In article , Tommy T. wrote: bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Mar.31.04@telemark .slac.stanford.edu wrote in message _ If you don't kick'n'glide or skate, then fixed length poles are probably a better way to go. I disagree with that comment about fixed length. If you use your poles when skinning up (long so the push is coming well behind the foot) and again when bombing down (short so your weight stays forward and your hands are carried low), you need adjustable. _ I really try to avoid poling much while climbing slopes steep enough for skins, for me it seems to work better if I keep my hands low and use my poles for balance. While you can't avoid it sometimes, for long climbs it seems more efficient to just use your legs. Personally, using poles is a sign to either lower the climbing angle or get fatter skins. There was an article about this a few years ago in Backcountry or Couloir magazine. The maxim "Hands below heart" seems to work well for me. It's probably very terrain dependent, in the wide open west changing climbing angles is easy, not so easy on the tight trails of NE. I think there is also an altitude component to it, the higher you go the less oxygen to power all those muscles. If I'm doing long climbing traverses, I'll set one long and one short and change hands at the turn arounds. _ I find it easier to just create duck tape grips about 7-8 inches down from the handle. This is enough grip for balance, but not enough for propulsion. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQGwwbGTWTAjn5N/lAQEVewP+Mo4GGjXpvpsZO60p1DYb4y3DyuUPAzZH XjZ37FGM6YT7+zllw/9LuUh6lBhW9jduUjUI6oV1LAgQABsuQhHjO1ldG6osEd92 PEm+33FqWmQiR1UDm3RFribrO+izlZp8jZBObaaxBL0FrQEbho yGBCDZpo5Gd3bX X7q16jVHMPA= =uecc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Apr.01.04@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote in message . While you can't avoid it sometimes, for long climbs it seems more efficient to just use your legs. Personally, using poles is a sign to either lower the climbing angle or get fatter skins. Agreed. I don't really push on the poles to add to the climbing force. I push on them to hold my balance when kick turning or to prevent backsliding when going over a short ice section. (You who never skin up a trail with ice steeps now (1) are lucky to live in a place where you can easily do lots of what we New Englanders work so hard for so little and (2) should come skin the Sherburne Trail on Mt. Washington in New Hampshire sometime.) Tommy T. |
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"Flip Buttling" wrote:
Okay- On to the pole. Which pole out there, in the humble opinion of this BB, will lock with the most certainty, not slide/collapse under heavy weight? Being that I'm in the east, The ability to combine into an avalanche probe is good, but not essential, as I won't be going into those conditions too often. A non-adjustable pole. Seriously. For yo-yoing in the east, a shorter pole length is best. Allows you to climb with your hands down low by your hips, pushing on the tops of the poles. For our kind of skinning, this is what you want. If you want to make any changes to a normal alpine style pole, rip the pole straps off (no need to wrench a shoulder in the woods) and add super fat powder baskets. IMO, the key for tele (or AT) oriented poles for the east is a decent grip that works well with no straps and has a rounded enough top to be comfortable when pressing down on it with my palm. Note, I do use long adjustables for xc oriented tours where I may want xc striding length for my poles and then shorter turning lengths later. NE style yo-yoing generally doesn't require this sort of striding efficiency though. -- Dave ============================================== "It is impossible, or not easy, to do noble acts without the proper equipment." Aristotle, Politics, 1323a-b, trans Jowett ============================================== |
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"Tommy T." wrote:
If I'm doing long climbing traverses, I'll set one long and one short and change hands at the turn arounds. Point taken. But this type of usage can vary dramatically from one region to another. IMO for the east, adjustables aren't needed at all. -- Dave ============================================== "It is impossible, or not easy, to do noble acts without the proper equipment." Aristotle, Politics, 1323a-b, trans Jowett ============================================== |
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