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Is my heel dragging the snow?
David Taylor wrote:
On 2006-12-26, wrote: Bob F wrote: This technique works well, especially at low speed. Sure, at high speeds anyone can change edges evenly to make quick non-skidded turns without pushing the tail of the board around. Using board torsion allows smooth turns without skidding even at near zero speeds. Focusing on it when riding switch makes switch riding much more comfortable. You just don't catch edges and fall as much. I will say again - I teach this technique to all my beginning students. It works very well for them. When it doesn't seem to work for them, they usually have their bindings too close together on the board. Move the bindings, and all of a sudden it works. The students that learn this way to turn are visably smoother riders. They also seem to suffer many fewer traumatic falls during the learning process. If you like the way you ride - fine. If you want to try something a lot of riders have never discovered that might improve your performance, you might want to try this. I have no vested interest other than liking to help people ride better. And I am always interested in any new concepts that I can learn, which is one of the reasons I visit R.S.S. Keep them coming. I'd be interested in hearing from others on here if: 1 - When learning to ride, they were told to make turns by twisting the board by moving the feet in opposite direction Yes. 2 - If they now use this technique in their own riding. Yes My answer is no to both. I'd be interested to know if you actually understand the technique being discussed. It's not so much moving the feet in opposite directions. You start with pressure on the heel edge on both feet. Then release the pressure on the heel edge on your front foot, and apply pressure to the toe edge on your front foot. As the board begins to turn, do the same with your back foot. All you're doing is turning with the front of the board first. 1. I have heard of this suggestion, but I wasn't told it while learning to ride. One very good instructor (AASII III, PSIA III, CASI Race II) told me at a race camp I attended that it is a useful technique if you board is not very torsionally rigid, but not the most effective for the stiff decks that Neil G, Mike T, I and many others ride and hence is probably why we don't use it very much. It is ONE of many technique he uses to teach - for those of with a preference for carving, we work more on edge pressure. === Quoted from someone ==================== OK, I'll give it a shot: There are 4 things you can do to a snowboard: Pivot it, pressure it, edge it and, yes, twist it. Since many of the alpine focused decks are pretty stiff torsionally, the twisting concept is pretty minimal. However, if you ride fairly flat angles and a relatively soft board like a 4X4/AWD/Axis, then you can actually twist the board to initiate a turn. Think about pressing down with your front set of toes first to start a toeside turn, then following up with by pressing the back toes down to finish and you have the concept. This is best accomplished on a long mellow run as you will have to wait a while (read- time it with a calendar) to allow your average alpine board to gradually edge into a turn. This is a much more applicable discussion in the freestyle, boards that are as flexible as a french fry. Nevertheless, it is a valid topic. I say this because I teach the "twisty" method of turn initiation to the french fry crowd. BTW, I do it on my Axis. ========================================= 2. Not really. At least I don't visualize that way. I visualize it more like David does - although I actually pressure the front edge of the board first (not both feet). Anyways, so David know the technique you describe it actually different from Bob F's description. He really means twist. Bob's mentioned that he hasn't had much instructor training outside of the PSIA and each instructor group has it's own "school of teaching" in which they believe to be superior to all other "schools of thought." I'm sure Bob would have a fit with the SBSS school of teaching that advocates a rotational style (http://www.extremecarving.com/tech/tech.html). I'm not even sure if I would teach that to my students either. For a note to the some of members of the forum. We value your input greatly, but you don't need to continually try to convince us of your street cred and consequently your worth as a contributor. You don't need to tell me how many boards you've sold to happy customers, or how many of your students have suddenly "got it" with your help. To me that's reminds me of one of the Real Men of Genius commercials by Bud Light. Listen here (http://tinyurl.com/j5axj). Let your thoughts stand on their own merits. |
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