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gary jacobson wrote: There must be a place I can take some lessons. Joseph Contact the Horten Ski Klub up the road (fjord) from you.. Just about any skier in Norway could probably help you. I found that even Norwegian folks that don't have any interest in racing had amazing chops, although they may not be able to teach. (I especially am amazed at their fence scaling abilities.) There are plenty of people to ask, but I get conflicting information. And as I am more in need of fine tuning as opposed to basic instruction, it is something that requires a bit of time for the person, and I don't feel like imposing upon other folks who are just out to ski themselves. But I'm quite certain that someone in Horten could help you. The club moved along Anders and Jorgen Aukland pretty good I'd say. This summer I was out on a bike ride, and I saw a guy on roller skis skating ahead of me. After a few kilometers I thought is was strange that I hadn't caught him. So I poured on the coals and eventually caught up. This was just as we approched a somewhat congested area with a tricky bike path with lots of driveway crossings, gravel, manhole covers etc. It was rolling terrain. For 3km that I was beind the guy he did not once go under 30km/h. It was sick. The speed and the skill in zooming back and forth around obstacles and rough surfaces was incredible. But the speed really blew my mind, like I'd seen someone walking on the wall or some other impossible feat. He eventually had to stop at a red light, and I got a look at who it was. Anders Aukland. Joseph |
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Alex wrote: wrote: snip Offset dance makes sense. That's the uphill waddle. V1 is when you do one double-pole for each time you push with both legs. In other words, the DP lasts as long as it takes to push first with one leg, then the other. While V2 is one DP for each leg push, in other words DP'ing twice as often as with V1. Is that correct? I gotta get on the same page! This is all complicated by the fact that I am indeed in Norway, and I have no idea what these things are called in Norwegain! In Norwegian, what you describe as "V2" is called "Dobbeldans". "Enkeldans" ("Single dance") is one double pole per two leg pushes. The variant of Enkeldans used uphills is called "Padling". "Frisk=F8yting" is skating without pole pushes. I tend to use these terms as I find it much easier to remember which is which. I just find that "V1, V 2 or V3" confuse me. I too like the descriptive names. Much less confusing. As for timing, the whole issue seems to be just not losing momentum so you don't have to waste energy accelerating with each stride, right? Yes - correct timing of the arm and leg pushes really helps this. I know you have only found people who teach kids to ski, but really think you need to look around more for a local lesson on this stuff. Probably a wise thing to do, before I teach myself all sorts of bad habits. I am welcome to join the kids group, but it is rather disruptive. The kids (9-12 years) are better than I am, but have no stamina and are slower so the rhythm of the group is hard to maintain. And it is a kids group, so I would end up sacrificing my learning so as not to ruin it for the kids. There must be a place I can take some lessons. Trying to find someone in Norway to teach an adult learner is a bit like finding someone in Britain who can teach adults to walk or run. Whereabouts in Norway are you? There are British groups with adult learners at varying ability levels, who arrange instruction in Norway. I might be able to put you in touch with someone. I'm in a place called Tj=F8me. 130km south of Oslo on the western coast of Olsofjord. There are places in Olso I've found, but it's a 2 hour drive. Joseph |
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Terje Mathisen wrote: wrote: I'm in a place called Tj=F8me. 130km south of Oslo on the western coast of Olsofjord. There are places in Olso I've found, but it's a 2 hour drive. Joseph, that means that you're in the middle of Norway's summertime paradise, definitely _NOT_ a xc hotspot. :-( The local newspaper has an article today that says they have prepared 5km of track here on Tj=F8me yesterday. The first time since 1989! Now I don't have to drive to ski! I was in Oslo last weekend for the kids Holmenkollen event, and for the last few weeks we have had more snow here than Oslo! You are indeed lucky in that this is the first time in several years your local county of Vestfold have had real skiable snow. Actually it's not that bad. Even last year. Good skiing can be had 15 minutes inland. Doesn't last as long as in Oslo... I know people a bit north of you, in =C5sg=E5rdsstrand (the home of the painter Edvard "The Scream" Munck) who are members of the local xc ski club, if you mail me I can try to put you in contact with them. OTOH, T=F8nsberg has a nice xc club as well, I believe you should start by calling the Norwegian Ski Federation (or check their web page) for local contacts! I'll give it a whirl! Joseph |
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snip I'm in a place called Tj=F8me. 130km south of Oslo on the western coast of Olsofjord. There are places in Olso I've found, but it's a 2 hour drive. Sorry, I have no contacts nearer to you than Oslo. I will email a couple of links in case you are thinking of taking a holiday later. snip Probably a wise thing to do, before I teach myself all sorts of bad habits. I am welcome to join the kids group, but it is rather disruptive. The kids (9-12 years) are better than I am, but have no stamina and are slower so the rhythm of the group is hard to maintain. And it is a kids group, so I would end up sacrificing my learning so as not to ruin it for the kids. There must be a place I can take some lessons. I had a similar problem when I started Master's swimming a few years ago. For one of my sessions, I was in with a bunch of kids. Over one or two lengths they were faster than me and liked to prove it. However, my pacing was better and I could finish longer intervals at much the same speed as I started. So the coach used to ask me to lead the lane for anything over 100 m with strict instructions to the youngsters not to overtake. They didn't get promoted to leading until they had managed to stay tapping at my toes for the whole set. That was good for all of us. However, there was also a group of adults who wanted to improve technique. So we arranged a weekly club session and hired a coach between us. You may find that some of the locals want to improve their racing technique and would be interested. Good luck in the Birkebeineren. Alex |
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Joseph,
Did you get my email, or did it fall victim to spamblockers? Alex |
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