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Old February 25th 05, 04:57 PM
Nevalainen, Eric
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Default entry level skate ski and boot

2 cents from a 215lb non-expert

I had a discussion remarkably similar to this with Tom down at Finn-Sisu
back in September. His recommendation for "the larger skier" (myself at
97kg), was to shop early. Every season when the new skis come in, there
are several in every model that flex well for the higher weights, but
they tend to go early as there are not a lot of them and demand can be
pretty high.

Not to say that the task is impossible, just that there is more to
choose from model-wise early in the year. The prices aren't necessarily
as good then (you can still get deals), but at least you have a better
chance of getting the model you want. I found and bought a pair of
Classic Atomics a year ago last fall that flexed perfectly for me at my
weight.....I think I just got lucky on that one.....

e.






-----Original Message-----
From: ]
On Behalf Of Marc Gwadz
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Nevalainen, Eric
Subject: entry level skate ski and boot


When i gave my data to the guy at eagle river (thru the website) - 200
lbs, very active, intermediate skier, not a racer, he said that the
Atomics would be too soft, and that I needed to get the RCS FIscher-, as

it runs stiffer. At this point I just couldn't see spending $400 or
$500 for the amount or type of skiing i do- ie not racing. the RCS
suppossedly runs stiffer and comes in a 197cm- so if you found a good
deal on one of those that might be a good option.

I love a deal and bought most of my ski stuff at reduced prices, but
getting a ski that doesn't fit is a false bargaign. saving $50 on the
skis is nice, but won't matter a lot in the long run.
I think it would be worth searching for a ski that fits as best you can
at whatever price point you decide on. one ski shop I came across
online-
http://www.sierranordic.com/SkateSkiSale.html said they always
get some "big boy" skis each year, so they may be sympathetic and ready
to deal with your need to have a stiff pair picked out for you. they
might not have much stock now though.


good luck!

marc









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Old February 26th 05, 07:04 AM
nnn
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Hello,

Thanks for weighing in with a non-expert opinion.

I found and bought a pair of
Classic Atomics a year ago last fall that flexed perfectly for me at my
weight.


Can you describe what a perfect flexing ski means?

thanks, tom

"Nevalainen, Eric" wrote in message
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2 cents from a 215lb non-expert

I had a discussion remarkably similar to this with Tom down at Finn-Sisu
back in September. His recommendation for "the larger skier" (myself at
97kg), was to shop early. Every season when the new skis come in, there
are several in every model that flex well for the higher weights, but
they tend to go early as there are not a lot of them and demand can be
pretty high.

Not to say that the task is impossible, just that there is more to
choose from model-wise early in the year. The prices aren't necessarily
as good then (you can still get deals), but at least you have a better
chance of getting the model you want. I found and bought a pair of
Classic Atomics a year ago last fall that flexed perfectly for me at my
weight.....I think I just got lucky on that one.....

e.






-----Original Message-----
From: ]
On Behalf Of Marc Gwadz
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Nevalainen, Eric
Subject: entry level skate ski and boot


When i gave my data to the guy at eagle river (thru the website) - 200
lbs, very active, intermediate skier, not a racer, he said that the
Atomics would be too soft, and that I needed to get the RCS FIscher-, as

it runs stiffer. At this point I just couldn't see spending $400 or
$500 for the amount or type of skiing i do- ie not racing. the RCS
suppossedly runs stiffer and comes in a 197cm- so if you found a good
deal on one of those that might be a good option.

I love a deal and bought most of my ski stuff at reduced prices, but
getting a ski that doesn't fit is a false bargaign. saving $50 on the
skis is nice, but won't matter a lot in the long run.
I think it would be worth searching for a ski that fits as best you can
at whatever price point you decide on. one ski shop I came across
online-
http://www.sierranordic.com/SkateSkiSale.html said they always
get some "big boy" skis each year, so they may be sympathetic and ready
to deal with your need to have a stiff pair picked out for you. they
might not have much stock now though.


good luck!

marc










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Old February 26th 05, 07:09 AM
nnn
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Do you have to wax new skis before using them, or are they good to go? Do
you get your skis waxed at a shop or did you purchase all the wax and tools?

thanks, tom

"Nevalainen, Eric" wrote in message
news:7BAC47CDED93784ABF145C948D38DF379AF7F8@BPEXU3 VM1.andersencorp.com...
2 cents from a 215lb non-expert

I had a discussion remarkably similar to this with Tom down at Finn-Sisu
back in September. His recommendation for "the larger skier" (myself at
97kg), was to shop early. Every season when the new skis come in, there
are several in every model that flex well for the higher weights, but
they tend to go early as there are not a lot of them and demand can be
pretty high.

Not to say that the task is impossible, just that there is more to
choose from model-wise early in the year. The prices aren't necessarily
as good then (you can still get deals), but at least you have a better
chance of getting the model you want. I found and bought a pair of
Classic Atomics a year ago last fall that flexed perfectly for me at my
weight.....I think I just got lucky on that one.....

e.






-----Original Message-----
From: ]
On Behalf Of Marc Gwadz
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Nevalainen, Eric
Subject: entry level skate ski and boot


When i gave my data to the guy at eagle river (thru the website) - 200
lbs, very active, intermediate skier, not a racer, he said that the
Atomics would be too soft, and that I needed to get the RCS FIscher-, as

it runs stiffer. At this point I just couldn't see spending $400 or
$500 for the amount or type of skiing i do- ie not racing. the RCS
suppossedly runs stiffer and comes in a 197cm- so if you found a good
deal on one of those that might be a good option.

I love a deal and bought most of my ski stuff at reduced prices, but
getting a ski that doesn't fit is a false bargaign. saving $50 on the
skis is nice, but won't matter a lot in the long run.
I think it would be worth searching for a ski that fits as best you can
at whatever price point you decide on. one ski shop I came across
online-
http://www.sierranordic.com/SkateSkiSale.html said they always
get some "big boy" skis each year, so they may be sympathetic and ready
to deal with your need to have a stiff pair picked out for you. they
might not have much stock now though.


good luck!

marc










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Old February 26th 05, 07:12 AM
nnn
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Are there decisions to be made as to where to mount the bindings, or are
there markings on the ski that indicate where to mount them?

thanks, tom

"Nevalainen, Eric" wrote in message
news:7BAC47CDED93784ABF145C948D38DF379AF7F8@BPEXU3 VM1.andersencorp.com...
2 cents from a 215lb non-expert

I had a discussion remarkably similar to this with Tom down at Finn-Sisu
back in September. His recommendation for "the larger skier" (myself at
97kg), was to shop early. Every season when the new skis come in, there
are several in every model that flex well for the higher weights, but
they tend to go early as there are not a lot of them and demand can be
pretty high.

Not to say that the task is impossible, just that there is more to
choose from model-wise early in the year. The prices aren't necessarily
as good then (you can still get deals), but at least you have a better
chance of getting the model you want. I found and bought a pair of
Classic Atomics a year ago last fall that flexed perfectly for me at my
weight.....I think I just got lucky on that one.....

e.






-----Original Message-----
From: ]
On Behalf Of Marc Gwadz
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Nevalainen, Eric
Subject: entry level skate ski and boot


When i gave my data to the guy at eagle river (thru the website) - 200
lbs, very active, intermediate skier, not a racer, he said that the
Atomics would be too soft, and that I needed to get the RCS FIscher-, as

it runs stiffer. At this point I just couldn't see spending $400 or
$500 for the amount or type of skiing i do- ie not racing. the RCS
suppossedly runs stiffer and comes in a 197cm- so if you found a good
deal on one of those that might be a good option.

I love a deal and bought most of my ski stuff at reduced prices, but
getting a ski that doesn't fit is a false bargaign. saving $50 on the
skis is nice, but won't matter a lot in the long run.
I think it would be worth searching for a ski that fits as best you can
at whatever price point you decide on. one ski shop I came across
online-
http://www.sierranordic.com/SkateSkiSale.html said they always
get some "big boy" skis each year, so they may be sympathetic and ready
to deal with your need to have a stiff pair picked out for you. they
might not have much stock now though.


good luck!

marc










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Old February 26th 05, 10:51 AM
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:09:36 -0700, "nnn"
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Do you have to wax new skis before using them, or are they good to go?


http://www.rideandglide.bizland.com/wax_101.htm

JFT

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Old February 26th 05, 04:07 PM
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Can you describe what a perfect flexing ski means?

http://www.masterskier.com/articles/...ason/flex.html

and this thread

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...7b2935035aee12

and this doc

http://www.engineeredtuning.net/SkateFlex.pdf - I think someone
suggested this to you already.

df

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Old February 26th 05, 06:00 PM
Eric Nevalainen
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Have the shop do it. They have all of the jigs, templates, tools, and
knowledge to do it right the first time.

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Old February 26th 05, 08:36 PM
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Thanks for the link on waxing. Where's a good place to get waxing equipment
and wax cheap?

"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:09:36 -0700, "nnn"
wrote:

Do you have to wax new skis before using them, or are they good to go?


http://www.rideandglide.bizland.com/wax_101.htm

JFT

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Old February 26th 05, 11:22 PM
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T R O L L.
BT is this you?
"nnn" wrote in message
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Thanks for the link on waxing. Where's a good place to get waxing
equipment
and wax cheap?

"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:09:36 -0700, "nnn"
wrote:

Do you have to wax new skis before using them, or are they good to go?


http://www.rideandglide.bizland.com/wax_101.htm

JFT

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Old February 26th 05, 11:45 PM
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Hello,

Can you get the various brushes at the hardware store or do you have to buy
special ski brushes? Will a Wal-Mart carry horse hair brushes and brass
brushes? What shape are the brushes? I assume they aren't like paint
brushes.

Thanks.


"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:09:36 -0700, "nnn"
wrote:

Do you have to wax new skis before using them, or are they good to go?


http://www.rideandglide.bizland.com/wax_101.htm

JFT

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