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Old December 15th 03, 11:02 PM
Monique Y. Herman
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 at 22:26 GMT, klaus penned:
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 at 21:12 GMT, klaus penned:
That doesn't mean you're doing it right. That means you're not doing
it enough.

-klaus


Interesting point. But I'd think that, in any sport, you could
*always* put in a little more effort. So, as your skill level rises
and your muscles adapt, you should be able to do more and more ...
which will still get you exhausted =)


I guess the level of effort that some people would have to apply to
get themselves all tuckered out might no longer be fun to them,
though.


Exactly. I think most get to a point where they pick and choose when
and where they ski more carefully if they do it a lot. There's just no
reason to ski a lot of days. And many days, conditions change, so you
choose quality over quantity. And then go hit the bar. And if a ski
area restaurant makes you dress up, they aren't worth going to.


I guess I'm still at the point where (almost) any skiing is good skiing.
To be honest, though, bars have never held much attraction for me,
anyway.

It's nice to have restaurants and "stuff to do" nearby, but if I have to
choose between great skiing and a great nightlife, I know which I'll
pick.




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Old December 15th 03, 11:20 PM
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Monique Y. Herman wrote:
It's nice to have restaurants and "stuff to do" nearby, but if I have to
choose between great skiing and a great nightlife, I know which I'll
pick.


Just choose the great skiing, period. But be careful. It can really
screw up your life.

-klaus


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Old December 16th 03, 12:02 AM
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klaus wrote:

Monique Y. Herman wrote:

It's nice to have restaurants and "stuff to do" nearby, but if I have to
choose between great skiing and a great nightlife, I know which I'll
pick.



Just choose the great skiing, period. But be careful. It can really
screw up your life.


You misspelled "screw". It's spelled "e" "n" "r" "i" "c" "h"

(Just to assure myself I'm not mistaken, I checked with "The American
Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000" and
discovered the appropriate definition for the correct spelling of "screw:"
3. To add fertilizer to.

Hummmm? Wait - maybe that should be
2. To make fuller, more meaningful, or more rewarding.)


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Old December 16th 03, 02:10 AM
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"Monique Y. Herman" wrote in message .. .
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 at 17:05 GMT, danko penned:

Just got back from Breck yesterday. I'll second the mediocre
conditions. Peaks 8 and 9 were somewhat open. 7 and 10 had no
lifts/runs open. When we left there were ~10 lifts open. On 8 & 9
most of the green, and a good portion of the blue runs were open.
Only one blue-black run was open that we found and I could not find a
single open black. Snow condition was good, but thin. Foliage was
showing through in many spots. About half the open trails were being
groomed daily. A number of the blue runs (briar rose for example) had
some bumps where I didn't remember bumps from previous trips. This
might be becuase of the lack of regular bump/advanced runs. My wife
and I spent three days skiing and hit every open run multiple times.
Temps were around 20 degree highs each day. Not bad but it was pretty
windy at the tops. Crowds were not bad dispite the limited amount of
open terrain. Lift lines at peak 8 were much worse than 9. I was
pretty bummed about the lack of advanced terrain open, and was iching
to try the new blue runs at the base of peak 7. They were not open
however.

-danko


Huh. I skied down Callie's Corner?, which is a short black, yesterday.
It had a warning sign about exposed terrain but was open, with better
snow than just about any other run. There was one tiny brown spot, but
the rest was fluffy, and since it had a warning sign, it was empty.
Yum!

We took a lift over what looked like a nice little jump park, too. I
didn't check it out, but that seems like it might have provided a little
zest.


Briar Rose sucked yesterday. The moguls didn't upset me, but I hit a
rock just about every other turn.

My s.o. saw a sign at Breck that greens and blues are groomed daily,
which he took to mean that blue-blacks are "blue steepness but not
necessarily groomed." Certainly the blue-blacks did not seem very
challenging from a steepness perspective. Anyone have thoughts on that?



I must have missed Callie's... or it opened after we left (Saturday
noon'ish). Either way I'm a little bummed I missed it. I neglected
to mention the terrain park as it was in use by the Vans snowboard
competition and was unaccessible to "normal" skiiers. As for the
blue-black runs, I'm not sure how they grade them. On previous trips
to Breck I've hit the blue-black runs on peak 10. They were steeper
than the other blue runs on 8 and 9, but did not necessarily have
bumps. If I remember correctly they were also pretty much all groomed
except for a strip along the side. Nice runs just to open up on for
straight downhill speed. Anyway, this is probably the last time we
go early season. It is just too much of a dice roll when it comes to
snow condition to make up for the cheaper costs.

-danko

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Old December 16th 03, 04:24 PM
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 at 02:10 GMT, danko penned:

Anyway, this is probably the last time we go early season. It is just
too much of a dice roll when it comes to snow condition to make up for
the cheaper costs.


I hear ya. I never scheduled early *or* late season skiing when I lived
in VA -- too much risk. The only reason I'm doing it this year is
because I finally live near the mountains and have a Colorado Pass, so
it's "free."

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Old December 16th 03, 04:24 PM
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(danko) wrote in message
I must have missed Callie's... or it opened after we left (Saturday
noon'ish). Either way I'm a little bummed I missed it. I neglected
to mention the terrain park as it was in use by the Vans snowboard
competition and was unaccessible to "normal" skiiers. As for the
blue-black runs, I'm not sure how they grade them. On previous trips
to Breck I've hit the blue-black runs on peak 10. They were steeper
than the other blue runs on 8 and 9, but did not necessarily have
bumps. If I remember correctly they were also pretty much all groomed
except for a strip along the side. Nice runs just to open up on for
straight downhill speed. Anyway, this is probably the last time we
go early season. It is just too much of a dice roll when it comes to
snow condition to make up for the cheaper costs.

-danko


Well, I wrote the original post about bad conditions about two weeks
ago. Since then conditions have improved quite a bit with one 8"
storm and one 4" storm and other trace amounts. As far as advanced
terrian goes, there was plenty open on and off over the three days you
were there but you just had to keep a watch on how and when to access
it. Patrol has had quite a bit open on a limited basis. Yesterday I
skied the Mine Crotch trees, Mineshaft, Pscyopath trees and Pscyopath
Gully. Devils Crotch was also open. All pretty challenging terrian.
While you were here, I skied Cimmeron, Corsair and The Burn.

Since we are starting to get snow, patrol is opening up a bunch of
those trails on a limited basis (a couple of hours a day) just to get
them compacted. They usually do it during the week since they already
have a full plate on the weekends.

Vail Resorts is trying to save money now since they lost $8.5 million
last season. The snow is here, they just haven't staffed up yet. You
probably would have been better off skiing at Vail while you were here
since they have had more snow and have about 2 or 3 times the terrian
open.

As far as the lower Peak 8 black runs go, I think they label them that
way for the tourists. They are pretty much un-groomed blue runs but
it does give all the flatlanders an ego boost to say that they skied a
black run. Keeps them coming back. Peak 10 and 6 chair have the real
single black runs.
snoig

 




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