Off-season close-out purchase : Atomic World Cup HARD any good?

Hi all,

Last March I got to ski on Fisher SCS Skatecuts 192 medium, (too soft) and
192 RCS stiff (oh so much better). I'm an SNS Pilot person because I have
really nice boots for that.

Now I'm shopping for off-season deals to get my first skis. Hard to find
what I want in the longest size, stiff and for warmer conditions without
paying full retail.

I found an offer of :
193CM ATOMIC WORLD CUP SKATE HARD/W + Atomic Pilot Skate
For ? 302,75 shipped.

Atomic pricing seems to be quite a bit lower than fellow Austrians Fisher,
or how to rate these top Atomics compared to the other brands and the RCS's
I demoed and the top Fisher Carbonlites?
I'll spend most my time on skis in Europe, just under freezing at best I'm
afraid. Hoping to enter my first races the coming winter.
I'm 83kg nekked on a fit day, may get a bit more "muscular" towards 88kg as
I do more specific workouts. Powerful legs I suppose, being a good explosive
climber on a mountainbike at national level, despite out-weighing all
competition.

I like the idea of having bindings professionally pre-mounted, hardly any
professionals exist in my country. And it's cheaper to get them together.

I'll likely end up a ski geek with many pairs of skis, but my current need
is for fast racey ones that tell me what's being expected from me, and allow
me to go fast when I actually get a couple stroke right. I'll also get
cheaper ski's for bad conditions.
Same shop offers the RACE SKATE 192CM + Atomic Pilot Skate for just over
?200 shipped, for instance.
The SALOMON Equipe 9 193CM costs ?10 more.

Please point me the right way, without telling me to get my dream skis
(Carbonlites, and not for the weight) for ?450+. Just around ?300-350 is
what I'm ready to spend right now, for top skis+bindings.

Thanks in advance,

J

It gets a bit better : now another (also French) shop offers the same Atomic
World Cups, 193 Hard Warm, for EUR269 shipped, with the Pilot bindings. Too
good to pass up?

Same price goes for Fischer RCS Skating Plus 192 Stiff. I know these to be
good for me, just I have the idea better can be had. Please, anyone know how
these compare?

Someone who has substantial help to offer I'll gladly help out with any MTB
issue or question (s)he might have. I know a thing or 2 about that,
frustrating to know so little about skis...

Many thanks,

J


"Jan Gerrit Klok" schreef in bericht
.. .
Hi all,

Last March I got to ski on Fisher SCS Skatecuts 192 medium, (too soft) and
192 RCS stiff (oh so much better). I'm an SNS Pilot person because I have
really nice boots for that.

Now I'm shopping for off-season deals to get my first skis. Hard to find
what I want in the longest size, stiff and for warmer conditions without
paying full retail.

I found an offer of :
193CM ATOMIC WORLD CUP SKATE HARD/W + Atomic Pilot Skate
For ? 302,75 shipped.

Atomic pricing seems to be quite a bit lower than fellow Austrians Fisher,
or how to rate these top Atomics compared to the other brands and the
RCS's
I demoed and the top Fisher Carbonlites?
I'll spend most my time on skis in Europe, just under freezing at best I'm
afraid. Hoping to enter my first races the coming winter.
I'm 83kg nekked on a fit day, may get a bit more "muscular" towards 88kg
as
I do more specific workouts. Powerful legs I suppose, being a good
explosive
climber on a mountainbike at national level, despite out-weighing all
competition.

I like the idea of having bindings professionally pre-mounted, hardly any
professionals exist in my country. And it's cheaper to get them together.

I'll likely end up a ski geek with many pairs of skis, but my current need
is for fast racey ones that tell me what's being expected from me, and
allow
me to go fast when I actually get a couple stroke right. I'll also get
cheaper ski's for bad conditions.
Same shop offers the RACE SKATE 192CM + Atomic Pilot Skate for just over
?200 shipped, for instance.
The SALOMON Equipe 9 193CM costs ?10 more.

Please point me the right way, without telling me to get my dream skis
(Carbonlites, and not for the weight) for ?450+. Just around ?300-350 is
what I'm ready to spend right now, for top skis+bindings.

Thanks in advance,

J

On Jul 23, 3:01 pm, "Jan Gerrit Klok"
wrote:
(also French) shop offers the same Atomic
World Cups, 193 Hard Warm, for EUR269 shipped, with the Pilot bindings.
Same price goes for Fischer RCS Skating Plus 192 Stiff. I know these to be
good for me, just I have the idea better can be had. Please, anyone know how
these compare?


I think this kind of question invites a controversy over favorite skis
and brands. I've always skied on both Atomics and Fischers and
frankly, the Fischer's leave me feeling underwhelmed. Conversely, the
Atomics have always felt like the "right" ski. I had the same dilemma
as you in the fall of 2006 and ended up getting the new Atomic World
Cup's - just a few grams heavier than the Fischer Carbonlites
(depending on whose numbers you read) and a much nicer feel.

If you want to travel to the US, I'll give you a killer deal on a pair
of freshly ground RCS's w/ Pilot bindings!

- Bob

"highpeaksnordic" schreef in bericht
ups.com...
On Jul 23, 3:01 pm, "Jan Gerrit Klok"
wrote:
If you want to travel to the US, I'll give you a killer deal on a pair
of freshly ground RCS's w/ Pilot bindings!

- Bob
Thanks Bob! But will it ever be much less than the EUR270/$350 I'll spend
new now?
Unfortunately, I've never been to the US. My employer is a US Corp though,
so who knows, some day... But if you guys have the early November snow, I'll
have a hard time staying away.

It's good to read from someone who rates the Atomics higher than the
Fischers.
Then howcome do the Atomics seem to be lower prices? Marketing? Or are World
Cup racers really using something more advance than what mere mortal can
have shipped to them with bindings for EUR270?

Are these WorldCups a top buy in any case? Should I not whine and just get
the RCS's as well, and compare, then sell the lesser set?

Thanks,

J

On Jul 24, 5:44 pm, "Jan Gerrit Klok"
wrote:
But will it ever be much less than the EUR270/$350 I'll spend new now?

I'll throw in a few free T-shirts!

Then howcome do the Atomics seem to be lower prices?

Don't know why.

Should I not whine and just get
the RCS's as well, and compare, then sell the lesser set?

Buying two pair of skis? Always a sound plan!