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"AstroPax" wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 19:27:38 +0000 (UTC), klaus
wrote:

I'm just waiting for you to somehow link snowboarding to the
BushHaters....

Chelsea Clinton is a Snowboarder.

Did they let her board at Deer Valley when they were there? I know they
stayed on the slopes there. If I remember, they skied and managed to
remain annonymous.

On 8/15/03 7:33 AM, in article Gy3%a.149965$YN5.99296@sccrnsc01, "Ted W."
wrote:

CurtisLemay wrote:
Dave Stallard wrote:


Look you idiot.

Vinnie, if you are going to use a sock puppet, don't make it so obvious,
and don't be so rude.

Btw, it is LeMay.

Ted

By the way Ted, isn't your name spelled E..R..C..I..L..L..A? And yes,
someone did rat you out via e-mail.

pigo wrote:

If I think back, that seems to be more a statistic of circumstance than
outright rejection. How many actually had the chance? Carter? Yeah
right. Eisenhower?

For many years now, when a sitting or former governor has been a
candidate for President, he has won the election. Carter '76, Reagan
'80 and '84, Clinton '92 and '96, Bush '00. I'd call that a trend.

Doubtless personall revulsion??????? NOT! They're peas in a pod.

Gore has daughters about Monica's age. Think about that for a minute.

I have to admit that the more I saw of Gore in '00, the less I liked
him, and I'm a Democrat. He seems quite hardened and cynical, like a
person who would say anything he thinks would get him votes. I felt the
same way about Bush Sr too. I have a theory that it's the Vice
Presidency that does that to people. 8 long years of having to submerge
your own political personality in someone else's. It has to corrupt
the character.

Dave

"Vern93" wrote in message
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In article b3%_a.1741$QT5.1161@fed1read02,
"Richard Henry" wrote:

Is it the msblast virus attack? My computer at work got hit, behind a
very
expensive layers of protection layer. Corporate IT was running all over
our
building cleaning out machines. They suspect that people taking
notebooks
home get infected there, then walk the virus right into the building
everyday.

One of the automatic layers of protection that clicked in prohibited my
computer from downloading the MS patch to fix it. Seems that MS is not
on
the "trusted server" list.

I know it's not always going to be like this, but I've been a Macintosh
guy since the Mac SE in 1985. I now use G4 laptops and have a cool
little G4 "desklamp" iMac with a 17 inch screen running OS X. My
computing habits are a akin to San Francisco bathhouse afficiando circa
1980.

Because of my operating system, I've been spared virus attacks all this
time, whilst my Windows friends reformat and reformat again and again.
I know the Mac vs Windows debate is well covered... well, everywhere
else o'er the internet. Just my experience. Your milage may vary. At
participating Red Lobsters only. Etc.

Philosophically I agree with you. My favorite-ever computer is the Amiga
1000 lying dead in the garage. Next favorite is the Macintosh + that the
school ditrict refused to accept donation of, lying unused in the covered
patio room.

Due to commercial inertia and laziness, I currently have 2 PCs sitting on
this desk, and both run Windows. I decided not get an XP machine until it
had matured beyond the startup bugs. Within 2 weeks, it was crippled by
msblast (now since restored, patched, and ?protected?).

lal_truckee wrote:

Vern93 wrote:

Because of my operating system, I've been spared virus attacks all this
time, whilst my Windows friends reformat and reformat again and again.
I know the Mac vs Windows debate is well covered... well, everywhere
else o'er the internet. Just my experience. Your milage may vary. At
participating Red Lobsters only. Etc.

All well and good: until you realize that
a) Macs are unix inside now
b) Linux is winning share
c) When sufficient share is attained (for some value of sufficient) the
rogues will attack linux attack unix attack Mac

Yeah, but Linux is, from what I can see, more carefully engineered than
Windows. Torvalds and his crowd take more pride in craft than the
Redmond crew, whose criterion of success is being able to blow as much
code out of your ass in as short a time as possible. In the Microsoft
world, you will get more features sooner (whether you need them or not)
but you will also get more bugs and flaws. And the bugs are there to
stay: kill one and another one will pop up. It's what you get from
designing things too quick and building them too quick.

The house of Redmond is termite-ridden. On the other hand, the gilt
touches in the bathroom fixtures are great.

Dave

Dave Stallard wrote:

Yeah, but Linux is, from what I can see, more carefully engineered than
Windows.

No question. Absolutely. More secure, more robust, more efficient.
More of everything except featurecreep; except Bill lives within 50miles
of skiing and Linus is (is he still?) stuck in San Jose. So not more of
skiing.

So: who's run into Bill on the slopes at Crystal? Schmuck is probably a
boarder, since he's always in too much of a hurry to do anything that's
either hard or takes time.

The house of Redmond is termite-ridden. On the other hand, the gilt
touches in the bathroom fixtures are great.

Yeah - I sort of like the windows startup sound ...

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:05:50 GMT, Dave Stallard
wrote:

lal_truckee wrote:

Dave Stallard wrote:

Yeah, but Linux is, from what I can see, more carefully engineered than
Windows.

No question. Absolutely. More secure, more robust, more efficient.
More of everything except featurecreep; except Bill lives within 50miles
of skiing and Linus is (is he still?) stuck in San Jose. So not more of
skiing.

So: who's run into Bill on the slopes at Crystal? Schmuck is probably a
boarder, since he's always in too much of a hurry to do anything that's
either hard or takes time.

He skiis Crystal? I thought that the MS crowd went to Whistler. I know
they codenamed one of the Windows releases "Blackcomb".

Is that the release that was set off by the MSBlaster? It buried a
couple of clients of mine, but they're digging themselves out and
should be OK. That was just a little point release, but the big
Windows slabs, now, they're scary.

bw

Richard Henry wrote:

"The Real Bev" wrote in message
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BTW, have they turned the east coast back on yet? Everything seems way
slower tonight.

Is it the msblast virus attack? My computer at work got hit, behind a very
expensive layers of protection layer. Corporate IT was running all over our
building cleaning out machines. They suspect that people taking notebooks
home get infected there, then walk the virus right into the building
everyday.

I suspect it was the power outage, throwing traffic into areas that
weren't hit. CIS was down for a long time, but my local newsfeed was OK,
if slower than usual. Couldn't connect to Drudge or the WashPost AP feed
at all.

One of the automatic layers of protection that clicked in prohibited my
computer from downloading the MS patch to fix it. Seems that MS is not on
the "trusted server" list.

Some things are just intuitively right. It'll be interesting to see what
happens to the M$ victims tomorrow.

--
Cheers,
Bev
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~
Rule 18: Always tip your hat before striking a lady.

klaus wrote:

The Real Bev wrote:
Keillor has always tossed in little political digs, which as far as I'm
concerned means he forfeits any government money at all, as should the NPR
stations that carry him.

You need to go back and reread Fahrenheit 451. I would hope my tax
money supports critical dialog, otherwise media will end up as a mish
mash of trivial 15 second blurbs of no value, kinda like the
commercial stations.

Dialog requires two participants with differint viewpoints. Doesn't
happen on NPR, just a lot of liberals patting one another on the back for
their virtue.

But I really like Keillor's joke show, the Lake Wobegon bits, the guy who
does the sounds and the fiddler who plays classical music in various
styles.

--
Cheers,
Bev
================================================== ===============
"There's an apocryphal (I hope not !) story about a Bristol bike
thief found cold, wet and bedraggled one morning, D locked by the
neck to a local bridge." -- Anon

Dave Stallard wrote:

pigo wrote:

If I think back, that seems to be more a statistic of circumstance than
outright rejection. How many actually had the chance? Carter? Yeah
right. Eisenhower?

For many years now, when a sitting or former governor has been a
candidate for President, he has won the election. Carter '76, Reagan
'80 and '84, Clinton '92 and '96, Bush '00. I'd call that a trend.

Doubtless personall revulsion??????? NOT! They're peas in a pod.

Gore has daughters about Monica's age. Think about that for a minute.

I have to admit that the more I saw of Gore in '00, the less I liked
him, and I'm a Democrat. He seems quite hardened and cynical, like a
person who would say anything he thinks would get him votes.

But soft-headed because he thought that nobody would notice.

I felt the
same way about Bush Sr too. I have a theory that it's the Vice
Presidency that does that to people. 8 long years of having to submerge
your own political personality in someone else's. It has to corrupt
the character.

Didn't you think that Ford was a decent guy? I did.

The more I think about it, the more I think that ALL politicians should be
limited to one term. I haven't figured out how to eliminate bribery, of
course, but I'm working on it.

--
Cheers,
Bev
================================================== ===============
"There's an apocryphal (I hope not !) story about a Bristol bike
thief found cold, wet and bedraggled one morning, D locked by the
neck to a local bridge." -- Anon