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Help! Sking @ Jackson Hole march 5th to march 14th...
Guys or gals!
I would like to know what it is like to ski at Jackson Hole in early spring. I am planning to be there from march 5th to march 14th. I do like steep terrain, glades and most of all powder! I am worried that at that time there won't be much powder left, can you please confirm that these dates are still good for powder snow? I am also planning to go to the Best Western in Jackson also... Is this a good enough hotel? Anybody tried it before? Thanks for any information you may have about Jackson Hole! Francois |
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Help! Sking @ Jackson Hole march 5th to march 14th...
Atomik Alien wrote:
Guys or gals! I would like to know what it is like to ski at Jackson Hole in early spring. I am planning to be there from march 5th to march 14th. I do like steep terrain, glades and most of all powder! I am worried that at that time there won't be much powder left, can you please confirm that these dates are still good for powder snow? Jeff should chime in. March is still snow season, so basically it depends on the weather. Luck of the draw. I've had some spectacular March days there, some so nicely stormy that most folks stayed indoors and even the tram wasn't crowded to start the day. Of course I also froze my ass off. I am also planning to go to the Best Western in Jackson also... Is this a good enough hotel? Anybody tried it before? Good enough for what? It'll be nice, clean, modern moderately priced hotel rooms; nothing special. A step up from the Motel 6 down the street in both rooms and price. If you're looking for expensive ambiance try again - Jackson has lots of operations ready to take your money in exchange for handcrafted beds and breakfasts. On the other hand even the Best Western is way overkill, IMO. Money down the tubes for a place to sleep. Try the Anvil Motel http://www.anvilmotel.com/ clean, inexpensive, old timey, and run by nice folks, right downtown around the corner from whatever night life there is. (If you're traveling alone, the Anvil also has a basement with cheap bunks and a chance to hook up with other dedicated cost-cutter skiers. Pretty nice as these things go.) Unless you desparately need to expend your excess cash while you sleep. In that case, just mail it to me. Thanks for any information you may have about Jackson Hole! From downtown you can shoulder your skis and walk to Snow King, a nice steep slope and race haven; and often overlooked in the rush to get to the JH tram. |
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Help! Sking @ Jackson Hole march 5th to march 14th...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 12:46:01 -0800, lal_truckee
wrote: Atomik Alien wrote: Guys or gals! I would like to know what it is like to ski at Jackson Hole in early spring. I am planning to be there from march 5th to march 14th. I do like steep terrain, glades and most of all powder! I am worried that at that time there won't be much powder left, can you please confirm that these dates are still good for powder snow? Jeff should chime in. March is still snow season, so basically it depends on the weather. Luck of the draw. I've had some spectacular March days there, some so nicely stormy that most folks stayed indoors and even the tram wasn't crowded to start the day. Of course I also froze my ass off. I am also planning to go to the Best Western in Jackson also... Is this a good enough hotel? Anybody tried it before? Good enough for what? It'll be nice, clean, modern moderately priced hotel rooms; nothing special. A step up from the Motel 6 down the street in both rooms and price. If you're looking for expensive ambiance try again - Jackson has lots of operations ready to take your money in exchange for handcrafted beds and breakfasts. On the other hand even the Best Western is way overkill, IMO. Money down the tubes for a place to sleep. Try the Anvil Motel http://www.anvilmotel.com/ clean, inexpensive, old timey, and run by nice folks, right downtown around the corner from whatever night life there is. (If you're traveling alone, the Anvil also has a basement with cheap bunks and a chance to hook up with other dedicated cost-cutter skiers. Pretty nice as these things go.) Its a shame that none of the downtown motels under $50 take dogs. The Flat Creek is okay, it has a bit of a view anyway, but it is just over $50 which puts it on the expensive side for Jackson, and out of town a mile or so, the Red Lion is too expensive, the Antler and the Anvil don't take even highly trained well mannered medium sized dogs. So I'm always left with the Motel 6. Nice quiet rooms, close to good barbeque, cheap, close to town exit, exceptionally affordable, but too far from downtown and the ability to walk to nearby shops and especially home from pubs. Anybody know if any of the downtown area motels take dogs with some convincing? Also, the article Friday in USA today (which nearly made me puke with its emphasis on the rich and Jacksons emphasis on it. While they talked about backrubs and pampering for most of the article, they never mentioned cheap rooms for the dog owning visitor who likes to walk home from the cheap beer pub. Why is it that all ski articles in major papers are aimed at such a small minority of people who are wealthy and willing to spend it on a room with ridiculous services while their dog sits helplessly caged up in a kennel thousands of miles away) suggested that they are charging ten bucks to park in the Village. This is just for the close in parking right? Two years ago it was still free if you rode in on the haywagon behind the truck, and I asssume that is how it still is? nate |
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Help! Sking @ Jackson Hole march 5th to march 14th...
uglymoney wrote:
Why is it that all ski articles in major papers are aimed at such a small minority of people who are wealthy and willing to spend it on a room Because the papers don't write those articles; the high priced room consortia commissions the articles from PR pros and ships them off to newspapers who file the names off and add their own byline. |
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Help! Sking @ Jackson Hole march 5th to march 14th...
In article ,
lal_truckee wrote: uglymoney wrote: Why is it that all ski articles in major papers are aimed at such a small minority of people who are wealthy and willing to spend it on a room Because the papers don't write those articles; the high priced room consortia commissions the articles from PR pros and ships them off to newspapers who file the names off and add their own byline. Yep. And here they are ****ing with friends of mine who were born and raised in Jackson Hole before the Ski Corp began construction. There is a bunch of pressure to conform to the collective. The Ski Corp has to defray the cost of landing fees at Jackson Hole Airport, so they subsidize the Air Carriers and **** the innkeepers to pay for it. -- According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker." |
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Help! Sking @ Jackson Hole march 5th to march 14th...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:19:38 GMT, uglymoney
wrote: //snip// wealthy and willing to spend it on a room with ridiculous services while their dog sits helplessly caged up in a kennel thousands of miles away) Well, if they are *that* wealthy, you would think they could afford a dog-sitter. suggested that they are charging ten bucks to park in the Village. This is just for the close in parking right? Two years ago it was still free if you rode in on the haywagon behind the truck, and I asssume that is how it still is? That's when I stopped skiing Jackson on a regular basis, when they started charging to park directly in front of the Mangy Moose. IMO, JH just isn't what it used to be... too many assholes live and ski there now. -Astro |
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Help! Sking @ Jackson Hole march 5th to march 14th...
AstroPax wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:19:38 GMT, uglymoney wrote: //snip// wealthy and willing to spend it on a room with ridiculous services while their dog sits helplessly caged up in a kennel thousands of miles away) Well, if they are *that* wealthy, you would think they could afford a dog-sitter. suggested that they are charging ten bucks to park in the Village. This is just for the close in parking right? Two years ago it was still free if you rode in on the haywagon behind the truck, and I asssume that is how it still is? That's when I stopped skiing Jackson on a regular basis, when they started charging to park directly in front of the Mangy Moose. IMO, JH just isn't what it used to be... too many assholes live and ski there now. I blame it on the new management. Every time some new owners come in and dump some money into a mountain, the place deteriorates. |
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Help! Sking @ Jackson Hole march 5th to march 14th...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:49:57 -0800, lal_truckee
wrote: I blame it on the new management. Every time some new owners come in and dump some money into a mountain, the place deteriorates. One of my biggest complaints with Jackson is that the tram line is longer than the ski season. -Astro --- maximum exposure f/2.8 http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/index.htm --- |
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Help! Sking @ Jackson Hole march 5th to march 14th...
"lal_truckee" wrote in message ... AstroPax wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:19:38 GMT, uglymoney wrote: //snip// wealthy and willing to spend it on a room with ridiculous services while their dog sits helplessly caged up in a kennel thousands of miles away) Well, if they are *that* wealthy, you would think they could afford a dog-sitter. suggested that they are charging ten bucks to park in the Village. This is just for the close in parking right? Two years ago it was still free if you rode in on the haywagon behind the truck, and I asssume that is how it still is? That's when I stopped skiing Jackson on a regular basis, when they started charging to park directly in front of the Mangy Moose. IMO, JH just isn't what it used to be... too many assholes live and ski there now. I blame it on the new management. Every time some new owners come in and dump some money into a mountain, the place deteriorates. I don't know about that. Park West didn't get any *worse*. But then how could it have? |
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Help! Sking @ Jackson Hole march 5th to march 14th...
In article ,
lal_truckee wrote: AstroPax wrote: IMO, JH just isn't what it used to be... too many assholes live and ski there now. I blame it on the new management. Every time some new owners come in and dump some money into a mountain, the place deteriorates. Actually, Paul McCollister had a great pad and pencil scam. He borrowed money and offered people a percentage of JHMR for collateral. He always defaulted, and the Dutchman nailed him on it. The Dutchman sued, won, and McCollister lost controlling interest in JHMR. The Dutchman could care less about a few million that McCollister owed him. He was a billionare oil trader. The Kemmerer family bought JHMR at that point, McCollister's son drives a START (Southern Teton Area Rapid Transit) bus nowadays, and the Kemmerers have resisted efforts by Vail Resorts to buy in to the Ski Corp. Vail Resorts is making remarkable inroads in aquireing the *real estate* in Teton Village. Snake River Lodge and Spa is a Vail Resort property for instance. Just a point of information there. I'm sure the Utah boys will counterdict me. -- According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker." |
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