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Mounting alpine bindings
If anybody could help me out with this, I would appreciate it. I have an old
pair of downhill skis that I picked up recently that seemed pretty good, and were the right size for me, but they had old bindings on them. I was thinking that they would make a great second pair of skis for spring skiing or for use on days when conditions are less than optimal. Anyway, I bought a pair of Solomon 637 bindings on eBay, and I want to install them myself, but since I have never done it before, I need a few tips. My plan is to put them on myself and then take the skis in for a tune-up and binding adjustment. I understand that you have to find the ski balance point with a straightedge, and I do have the right mounting screws, as they came with the bindings, and I know that you have to fill the screw holes with epoxy glue. What I don't know is where exactly do I position the bindings for mounting? How do I know how far apart to put the bindings? Do I just hold the bindings up against the boot, or what? And do I balance the ski with the boot in place? Any tips would be greatly appreciated Thanks |
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"Terry Hill" wrote ... If anybody could help me out with this, I would appreciate it. I have an old pair of downhill skis that I picked up recently that seemed pretty good, and were the right size for me, but they had old bindings on them. I was thinking that they would make a great second pair of skis for spring skiing or for use on days when conditions are less than optimal. Anyway, I bought a pair of Solomon 637 bindings on eBay, and I want to install them myself, but since I have never done it before, I need a few tips. My plan is to put them on myself and then take the skis in for a tune-up and binding adjustment. I understand that you have to find the ski balance point with a straightedge, and I do have the right mounting screws, as they came with the bindings, and I know that you have to fill the screw holes with epoxy glue. What I don't know is where exactly do I position the bindings for mounting? How do I know how far apart to put the bindings? Do I just hold the bindings up against the boot, or what? And do I balance the ski with the boot in place? Any tips would be greatly appreciated Thanks Finding the balance point is something that is done for Nordic (cross country) skis, with Alpine skis there is nearly always a mark on the ski for either the toe of the boot or the midle of the boot sole, depending on who the ski was made by. Ski shops use a jig supplied by the binding maker to tell them where to drill the holes, anything else leaves a lot of room for error. Most ski shops are probably not going to want to adjust a pair of bindings that you mounted yourself, for various liability reasons. By the time you pay for the tuneup and binding adjust, it won't cost that much more to have them adjusted by the shop, if they are still idemnified by Solomon, and if they are still in good working order. -- mark |
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mark wrote:
"Terry Hill" wrote ... Anyway, I bought a pair of Solomon 637 bindings on eBay, and I want to install them myself, but since I have never done it before, I need a few tips. This question comes up a lot. See http://tinyurl.com/xj79 for the last installment. What was true a month ago is still true today. Bottom line: pay a professional to do it for you. By the way, the Salomon 637 may not be on this year's indemnification list. If it isn't, no shop will work on it. Anybody know where to find this year's list? It used to be available on the web, but it appears to have vanished... -- //-Walt // // The Volkl Conspiracy |
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Walt wrote:
Anybody know where to find this year's list? It used to be available on the web, but it appears to have vanished... The NSSRA seems to have it online, but it requires membership to access... http://www.nssra.com/2001/nssra/inde...by%C2%A 0date -- Chester Bullock, Ethical, custom website hosting, design and programming Tenxible Solutions, http://www.tenxible.com Web Based Autoresponder and DRIP system, http://www.toolsre.com AIM: tenxible YahooIM: ccb247 |
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Chester Bullock wrote:
Walt wrote: Anybody know where to find this year's [indemnification] list? It used to be available on the web, but it appears to have vanished... The NSSRA seems to have it online, but it requires membership to access... http://www.nssra.com/2001/nssra/inde...by%C2%A 0date Right. I found that too, but I'm not a member. Why is this vital safety information kept secret? One would think that it would be in everyones interest to make this data public. -- //-Walt // // The Volkl Conspiracy |
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Walt wrote:
Chester Bullock wrote: Walt wrote: Anybody know where to find this year's [indemnification] list? It used to be available on the web, but it appears to have vanished... The NSSRA seems to have it online, but it requires membership to access... http://www.nssra.com/2001/nssra/inde...by%C2%A 0date Right. I found that too, but I'm not a member. Why is this vital safety information kept secret? One would think that it would be in everyones interest to make this data public. I agree. I emailed the guy that owns the site and asked if he could make it available. We'll see what he says. Maybe if more people email him, he will be more inclined to make it available. -- Chester Bullock, Ethical, custom website hosting, design and programming Tenxible Solutions, http://www.tenxible.com Web Based Autoresponder and DRIP system, http://www.toolsre.com AIM: tenxible YahooIM: ccb247 |
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Chester Bullock wrote:
Walt wrote: Chester Bullock wrote: Walt wrote: Anybody know where to find this year's [indemnification] list? It used to be available on the web, but it appears to have vanished... The NSSRA seems to have it online, but it requires membership to access... http://www.nssra.com/2001/nssra/inde...by%C2%A 0date Right. I found that too, but I'm not a member. Why is this vital safety information kept secret? One would think that it would be in everyones interest to make this data public. I agree. I emailed the guy that owns the site and asked if he could make it available. We'll see what he says. Maybe if more people email him, he will be more inclined to make it available. So I should have posted his address... Alternately, maybe Seth can get it. I think he has connections... -- Chester Bullock, Ethical, custom website hosting, design and programming Tenxible Solutions, http://www.tenxible.com Web Based Autoresponder and DRIP system, http://www.toolsre.com AIM: tenxible YahooIM: ccb247 |
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"Walt" wrote in message
... mark wrote: "Terry Hill" wrote ... Anyway, I bought a pair of Solomon 637 bindings on eBay, and I want to install them myself, but since I have never done it before, I need a few tips. This question comes up a lot. See http://tinyurl.com/xj79 for the last installment. What was true a month ago is still true today. Bottom line: pay a professional to do it for you. Yep, that was me. I took the majority advice and found a shop who did it for $30 rather then the $50 that most shops quoted. Done, looks fine, now time to go skiing. |
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Terry Hill wrote:
If anybody could help me out with this, I would appreciate it. I have an old pair of downhill skis that I picked up recently that seemed pretty good, and were the right size for me, but they had old bindings on them. I was thinking that they would make a great second pair of skis for spring skiing or for use on days when conditions are less than optimal. Anyway, I bought a pair of Solomon 637 bindings on eBay, and I want to install them myself, but since I have never done it before, I need a few tips. My plan is to put them on myself and then take the skis in for a tune-up and binding adjustment. I understand that you have to find the ski balance point with a straightedge, and I do have the right mounting screws, as they came with the bindings, and I know that you have to fill the screw holes with epoxy glue. What I don't know is where exactly do I position the bindings for mounting? How do I know how far apart to put the bindings? Do I just hold the bindings up against the boot, or what? And do I balance the ski with the boot in place? Any tips would be greatly appreciated I'm sorry to say that most of what you "know" is wrong. First, Salomon 637s are old; they don't appear on the 2002-2003 bindings indemnification lists, so they certainly didn't reappear on the current lists (the Salomon x57 series bindings are the oldest bindings Salomon indemnified in 2002-3.) Second, Alpine skis almost all have a boot toe mark on the ski; some have a boot sole center mark on the ski. The boots have a mount point molded into the sole. Up to you to know which type of mark. If no mark, you find the mount mount by either the running surface method of the cord method (look them up in a good ski mechanic's book.) Third you use wood glue, not epoxy in the screw holes - it's only for sealing against moisture, not for retention - you want to be able to remove the screws eventually. How far apart to mount toe/heel bindings depends on the range of binding heel adjustment (usually center the heel in its track, unless you have special requirements) and pre-load travel distance requirements. Then you just center-line the bindings, drill (and tap, if there's a metal top-skin on the ski,) without punching through the base, but deep enough the screw doesn't dimple the base, lube with wood glue, and screw down to torque specs. Mount the second ski identical to the first. Then, of course, you adjust to boots for proper pre-load, set the release to DIN standards, and fully test both release torque and function, discarding the bindings if they fall out of spec bounds. |
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I have the indemnification list, but I won't make it public, either. Sorry.
The issue is that the lists are furnished to indemnified shops -- that is, to ski shops who send their shoprats to be certified as having all their wits (and fingers) intact. When your friendly neighborhood non-certified "expert" has the list and claims he can do the job safely, it leads to customers believing that the guy is backed by the manufacturer's warranty and indemnification program, when in fact he's not. I don't wanna be a party to that transaction. Seth "Chester Bullock" wrote in message ... Chester Bullock wrote: Walt wrote: Chester Bullock wrote: Walt wrote: Anybody know where to find this year's [indemnification] list? It used to be available on the web, but it appears to have vanished... The NSSRA seems to have it online, but it requires membership to access... http://www.nssra.com/2001/nssra/inde...by%C2%A 0date Right. I found that too, but I'm not a member. Why is this vital safety information kept secret? One would think that it would be in everyones interest to make this data public. I agree. I emailed the guy that owns the site and asked if he could make it available. We'll see what he says. Maybe if more people email him, he will be more inclined to make it available. So I should have posted his address... Alternately, maybe Seth can get it. I think he has connections... -- Chester Bullock, Ethical, custom website hosting, design and programming Tenxible Solutions, http://www.tenxible.com Web Based Autoresponder and DRIP system, http://www.toolsre.com AIM: tenxible YahooIM: ccb247 |
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