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Natasha Richardson
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:00:22 -0700, "Norm"
wrote: "Evojeesus" wrote in message ... On Mar 19, 1:50 pm, Walt wrote: Evojeesus wrote: Ok folks, just wear your helmet when you're skiing or on a motorbike, the life you save might be your own... Dr. Eugene Flamm, chairman of neurosurgery at Montefiore Medical Center in New York, said there is little evidence in this case that a helmet would have warded off Richardson's injury. http://www.abcnews.go.com/Health/Min...7116273&page=1 The helmet can reduce g-forces to the head and if g-forces caused the thing, the helmet may well have helped, whether or not there's documented evidence of that or not. I read some of the discussion on the subject and people claimed that there are dozens of concussion- injuries per ski resort per year, the vast majority with people who were not wearing helmets. ===================== I agree its a good idea to wear a helmet. I wear a helmet. I strongly suggest to my kids they wear helmets. (one of two does, the other is an adult now and makes his own choices) I've seen head injuries in non helmet wearing skiers. However, I read where this accident is rekindling discussion regarding making helmet use mandatory. I have a problem telling people they must wear a helmet. Whats next, body armour? Cut down all the trees? Of course it will rekindle such discussion; celebrity deaths are funny that way. IIRC, after Sonny Bono there was talk about whether resorts should offer glade skiing. Hopefully it'll go no further. I wear a helmet while skiing, but like having the option of not wearing it on any given day. Sad about Ms. Richardson; sad about every other ski death, too. bw |
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Natasha Richardson
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Evojeesus
wrote this crap: Wuss! * Don't tell me what to do, dumbass. I'm telling you to wear a helmet while skiing, that's what Hungarian warrior-characters do in battle anyway. Don't tell me what to do, dumbass. If you **** me off, you know what will happen. I live a life of action,adventure, and danger. If you **** me off, my armies will destroy you, and your family will be sold into slavery. You will be doomed, DOOMED, I say, and your lands will be forever cursed. And vote for Palin-Ahhnold in 2012. A mighty Hungarian warrior The blood of Attila runs through me |
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Natasha Richardson
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:00:22 -0700, "Norm"
wrote this crap: However, I read where this accident is rekindling discussion regarding making helmet use mandatory. I have a problem telling people they must wear a helmet. Whats next, body armour? BODY ARMOR! I love it. And carry a sword and shield. Wear chain mail, too. And wear a flack jacket. And vote for Palin-Ahhnold in 2012. A mighty Hungarian warrior The blood of Attila runs through me |
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Natasha Richardson
On Mar 19, 7:35*pm, A mighty Hungarian
wrote: And vote for Palin-Ahhnold in 2012. You have a sick sense of humour. |
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Natasha Richardson
On Mar 19, 8:44*pm, bdubya wrote:
A helmet can protect against g-forces, by deforming and absorbing part of the impact, but somehow I doubt that on a green run during a lesson, she hit hard enough to deform a helmet , so I doubt a helmet would have helped. At least the helmet is padded. If you hit your head on ice while ice- skating you know that even wearing a hat helps compared with skull-to- ice contact. |
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Natasha Richardson
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Natasha Richardson
On Mar 19, 12:50*pm, bod43 wrote:
On 19 Mar, 16:28, wrote: However, you omitted the other quoted doctor's professional advice & speculation on this point: "Faden said that Richardson's death should serve as a reminder to the public to take precautions against head injury whenever possible. ... To mention a couple of examples in the news here. Especially when standing in the queue for the checkout -http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/20080641318812 "Mr Tripp suffered severe head injuries when he hit the supermarket floor" Or when a pedestrian on the pavement (sidewalk -http://www.dailymail.co..uk/news/article-1032894/Parents-anguish-kille... "suffering fatal injuries as she hit her head on the pavement" In fact, why not just stay in bed - much safer - except it's not of course, you will just die sooner with some problem related to inactivity. I'm not sure if you have a point or are just being cynical. Naturally, everyone has to decide for himself or herself what steps prudence requires. But let's not pretend that everyday life is the same as an afternoon on the slopes, even for a beginner. Freak accidents can occur anywhere, but with good health and normal caution, it's possible to avoid falls in the home or at the workplace for very long stretches of time. If you want to wear a helmet while trudging up the stairs to your bedroom, fine, but chances are you could make that trip 1,000 times and not fall once. In contrast, everyone falls on the slopes occasionally. If you challenge yourself in any reasonable way, you will fall from time to time. It's the nature of the activity: slippery surfaces + fast speeds = occasional wipeouts. The strong argument for wearing a helmet while skiing or snowboarding cannot be reduced to the weak argument for wearing a helmet while engaging in any activity with even the slightest risk. Joe Ramirez |
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Natasha Richardson
Evojeesus wrote:
On Mar 19, 8:44 pm, bdubya wrote: A helmet can protect against g-forces, by deforming and absorbing part of the impact, but somehow I doubt that on a green run during a lesson, she hit hard enough to deform a helmet , so I doubt a helmet would have helped. At least the helmet is padded. If you hit your head on ice while ice- skating you know that even wearing a hat helps compared with skull-to- ice contact. As does hair. As does cotton cloth in a skin-to-asphalt encounter. -- Cheers, Bev ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ "Calling someone an asshole for being rude to a telemarketer is like accusing someone who's shot a burglar in his home of being a poor host." -- W.S.Rowell |
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Natasha Richardson
comadrejo wrote:
This is the run that Natasha Richardson went down at Tremblant, it is pretty pedestrian. What change a bunny slope fall into a lethal injury is the surface.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7q9uLO9NqM Are you sure it was Nansen? Got a cite? The press reports called it the "bunny hill" which I assumed was one of the magic carpet areas at the base, not the top-to-bottom green "beginner" run. //Walt |
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Natasha Richardson
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:37:21 -0700 (PDT), Evojeesus
wrote this crap: On Mar 19, 7:35*pm, A mighty Hungarian wrote: And vote for Palin-Ahhnold in 2012. You have a sick sense of humour. I'm not being funny. A mighty Hungarian warrior The blood of Attila runs through me |
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