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Simon Isbister wrote:
Yeah- in alot of situations, going up on skins seems not too different (in terms of speed and energy) than snowshoeing. Its the downhill portions of the trip that make skis a far more efficient means of travel than snowshoes. So, if you are going to be taking the skis off and putting on a board anyways... why not snowshoe? Skis are much easier than shoes over level ground because you can get some glide. If it's straight up on soft, sinky snow then I guess S-S would make a lot of sense, but anything much lateral skis should put you ahead. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:50:29 GMT, "Simon Isbister"
wrote: "Champ" wrote in message .. . However, everyone who'd used them said the really didn't work very well - too little surface area meant they sank too far, and were barely any less work than snowshoes. Yeah- in alot of situations, going up on skins seems not too different (in terms of speed and energy) than snowshoeing. Hmm, not in my experience, which I must point out is limited to snowshoeing uphill, often alongside a guide with skis & skins. It seems to me the action of pushing a skin'd ski forward in the tramlines is significantly less effort than lifting a snowshow from one bootprint to the next. And, snowshoeing a broken trail is mentally harded because you have to focus on planting your foot where the previous guy did. When it comes to breaking trail, I suspect skis are still easier, but I don't have as much experience, so wouldn't like to argue the case too hard. Its the downhill portions of the trip that make skis a far more efficient means of travel than snowshoes. So, if you are going to be taking the skis off and putting on a board anyways... why not snowshoe? Hey, my only reason for going up in the first place is to come down on the board! You mean there are people out there who go snowshoeing just to snowshoe? :-) -- Champ |
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"Champ" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:50:29 GMT, "Simon Isbister" wrote: Yeah- in alot of situations, going up on skins seems not too different (in terms of speed and energy) than snowshoeing. Hmm, not in my experience, which I must point out is limited to snowshoeing uphill, often alongside a guide with skis & skins. Yeah, I don't snowshoe too much myself, but it seems that going uphill would be the only time that touring skis and snowshoes would be even remotely comperable I don't see the point of it, but it sure has caught on- must be SOMETHING to it. You mean there are people out there who go snowshoeing just to snowshoe? :-) My thoughts exactly -s- |
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Kurt Knisely wrote:
Rocket powered toboggan? What if you miss the switchback? Switchback? Go strait up, gives a good line to follow on the way down. Who ever taught you how to *rocket toboggan*? You'll need a periscope too. Ed Huesers http://www.grandshelters.com |
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Ed Huesers wrote:
Kurt Knisely wrote: Rocket powered toboggan? What if you miss the switchback? Switchback? Go strait up, gives a good line to follow on the way down. Who ever taught you how to *rocket toboggan*? You'll need a periscope too. Don't they call those SkiDoos? -klaus |
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Simon Isbister wrote:
"Peter Clinch" wrote in message ... Simon Isbister wrote: Yeah- in alot of situations, going up on skins seems not too different (in terms of speed and energy) than snowshoeing. Its the downhill portions of the trip that make skis a far more efficient means of travel than snowshoes. So, if you are going to be taking the skis off and putting on a board anyways... why not snowshoe? Skis are much easier than shoes over level ground because you can get some glide. If it's straight up on soft, sinky snow then I guess S-S would make a lot of sense, but anything much lateral skis should put you ahead. Yes, certainly- I was picturing an outing with the intention of gaining altitude, in order to snowboard back down. But don't misunderstand- I don't snowboard, so it isn't a situation I ever find myself in. I'm certainly not about to snowshoe up, in order to swap gear and ski down! -s- But if you ski up, you still need to remove the skins, so do you have someone else do it or take off your skis? Dan |
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Simon Isbister wrote:
"Champ" wrote in message ... On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:50:29 GMT, "Simon Isbister" wrote: Yeah- in alot of situations, going up on skins seems not too different (in terms of speed and energy) than snowshoeing. Hmm, not in my experience, which I must point out is limited to snowshoeing uphill, often alongside a guide with skis & skins. Yeah, I don't snowshoe too much myself, but it seems that going uphill would be the only time that touring skis and snowshoes would be even remotely comperable I don't see the point of it, but it sure has caught on- must be SOMETHING to it. You mean there are people out there who go snowshoeing just to snowshoe? :-) My thoughts exactly -s- Balancing is much easier on snowshoes. Skis take quite a bit more experience before they become easier, so neophytes like shoes, and some people who don't like falling like the stability on the downhill sections. Some people just like a hike in the woods, even when it is white. Dan |
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dan wrote:
But if you ski up, you still need to remove the skins, so do you have someone else do it or take off your skis? Neither... with a little practice it's actually quite easy to take skins off yourself without removing the skis. You don't even have to sit down. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:59:22 +0100, Peter Clinch
wrote: dan wrote: But if you ski up, you still need to remove the skins, so do you have someone else do it or take off your skis? Neither... with a little practice it's actually quite easy to take skins off yourself without removing the skis. You don't even have to sit down. Yebbut, apart from the telemark weirdos, don't you have to remove the ski to adjust the binding from uphill-free-heel to downhill-fixed-heel? (You can probably tell that I don't ski :-) -- Champ |
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