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New Ski's - Binding Opinions?
I recently purchased a pair of new Volant T3 Epics (180cm), undrilled
and ready for mounting and tuning! I'm 5'10", 245lbs, an aggressive advanced to expert skier that likes the steeps, groomers, on & off-piste, powder and some of the bumps. I learned to ski in the east (ice) and have migrated to Colorado over the past few years. On average, I'll ski 30 days. So, here are my questions: 1 - Volant's aren't system ski's so any binding will do...or so I've been told. Therefore, I've been looking at the Salomon 912 TI, Look PX 12/14 TI and the Marker 1200 TI. At this point, all that differentiates them in my mind, is price. Anyone have any other thoughts? 2 - Ideally, I'd like to have these mounted so that I can share my ski's with buddies...can any of these be 'demo-mounted' and if not, any thoughts on bindings that meet the specs of the above that can? 3 - Finally, I went to my local ski-store yesterday and the "ski manager" (new guy, never met before) told me that demo bindings aren't sold to the general public because of the liability issues associated with untrained public users adjusting the bindings. I've never heard of this before but he said it with such authority that it sounded true. OK, any thoughts on any of the above and/or any good suggestions are more than welcomed and thanks - from a newbie! Edit/Delete Message |
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In article . com,
wrote: 12/14 TI and the Marker 1200 TI. At this point, all that differentiates ^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^ 2 - Ideally, I'd like to have these mounted so that I can share my ski's with buddies...can any of these be 'demo-mounted' and if not, any Share your ski's with your buddies... Can I **** your wife too? You said you're a big, aggro, expert all mountian skier. If you're going to ski to your potential, your buddies can rent. I ski Marker bindings because I'm on my last knee. You can't sew scar tissure to scar tissue. Head want's me to use Tyrollia bindings. There's nothing wrong with them except they're not Marker's. The only binding I trust my last knee with is Marker. My skis are set up for me period. I'll set up an old pair of Head sticks with Marker bindings for my brother, and their isn't another person on the planet I love more than my brother. I suppose in a pinch he could use my toothbrush...but *NEVER* my Monsters! -- According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker." |
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Jeff Davis wrote:
In article . com, wrote: 12/14 TI and the Marker 1200 TI. At this point, all that differentiates ^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^ 2 - Ideally, I'd like to have these mounted so that I can share my ski's with buddies...can any of these be 'demo-mounted' and if not, any Share your ski's with your buddies... Can I **** your wife too? Skis are fats, no? Hummm. Wife? Naw, let's not go there... OK, that said; now addressing the OP. Positive things about demo bindings. ()Adjustable - I suppose you know that. ()Good quality - They get beat on and any problems come out of profit, so they're actually pretty solid bindings. ()Cheap - (You probably didn't know this one.) If you have a decent relationship with a shop, go ask them if they've got any demo bindings laying around - probably get them for $20-$30 or so + mounting. Whenever I've scored new (to me) unmounted skis, and not had some good bindings on skis I'm retiring to move over, I've gone the talk-to-the-shop-rat route and always scored solid cheap bindings. BTW, Shops also often have some non-demo bindings in their remnant box as well - talking to your shop is always a good way to save bucks. Your shop is your best friend. FWIW, all current bindings are decent; if the DIN is appropriate go by price. |
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Walt wrote: Buy the Marker 1200, have the shop mount them, them fit to your boots and test the release function. Then stop worrying and go skiing. This makes two of us. I have a guy who's known me for 30 years set up my bindings. If Markers save my stapled together, Reverse Mausch and Slocum's Proceedure, rebuilt knee with 50% of its normal range of movement, albeit, more lateral stability than my healthy knee- Then Markers ought to keep your knees out of the Orthopedist's Office better than any other binding on the market today. -- According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker." |
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MoonMan wrote:
Walt wrote: wrote: I've been looking at the Salomon 912 TI, Look PX 12/14 TI and the Marker 1200 TI. At this point, all that differentiates them in my mind, is price. Anyone have any other thoughts? Differences: 1)The anti-friction-device (AFD). Marker and Look have an AFD that moves with your boot, Salomon's AFD is just a teflon pad that depends on a low co-efficient of friction between it and your boot - if your boots are worn or you stepped in bubble gum in the lodge, you ain't coming out of Salomons. Ask the shop to demonstrate the difference - you'll be able to see better than I can describe in words.] I'm still not convinced about this moving AFD theory, The teflon can't jam up, marker's moving platform can, and does! mind you I've only ever used rental marker bindings. There is a certain engineering aesthetic in simplicity, and the Salomon AFD is certainly simple. I've had bad experiences with Salomon, so theory and experience converge. I understand that your experience may be different. This is the first I've heard of the AFD platform binding up - heard lots of other complants about Markers, but not this. most of my skis have Salomon Bindings execpt my Fischers which have Fischer Branded Bindings with a sort of rubber belt for an afd. Fischers are rebranded Tyrollias. Nice binding. //Walt |
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Walt wrote:
MoonMan wrote: Walt wrote: wrote: I've been looking at the Salomon 912 TI, Look PX 12/14 TI and the Marker 1200 TI. At this point, all that differentiates them in my mind, is price. Anyone have any other thoughts? Differences: 1)The anti-friction-device (AFD). Marker and Look have an AFD that moves with your boot, Salomon's AFD is just a teflon pad that depends on a low co-efficient of friction between it and your boot - if your boots are worn or you stepped in bubble gum in the lodge, you ain't coming out of Salomons. Ask the shop to demonstrate the difference - you'll be able to see better than I can describe in words.] I'm still not convinced about this moving AFD theory, The teflon can't jam up, marker's moving platform can, and does! mind you I've only ever used rental marker bindings. There is a certain engineering aesthetic in simplicity, and the Salomon AFD is certainly simple. I've had bad experiences with Salomon, so theory and experience converge. I understand that your experience may be different. This is the first I've heard of the AFD platform binding up - heard lots of other complants about Markers, but not this. most of my skis have Salomon Bindings execpt my Fischers which have Fischer Branded Bindings with a sort of rubber belt for an afd. Fischers are rebranded Tyrollias. Nice binding. I like the race ones on my gs skis, the heelpeice rotates like the toe piece. considering they only go down to 10 and my normal setting is 8 I find this vaguely reassuring though it can be a pain when stepping in.. they sometimes seem to dodge your boot -- Chris *:-) Downhill Good, Uphill BAD! www.suffolkvikings.org.uk |
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MoonMan wrote:
Walt wrote: MoonMan wrote: most of my skis have Salomon Bindings execpt my Fischers which have Fischer Branded Bindings with a sort of rubber belt for an afd. Fischers are rebranded Tyrollias. Nice binding. I like the race ones on my gs skis, the heelpeice rotates like the toe piece. considering they only go down to 10 and my normal setting is 8 I find this vaguely reassuring though it can be a pain when stepping in.. they sometimes seem to dodge your boot That's what Tyrollia calls the "diagonal heel". But look at the bright side - for your race skis you don't have to worry about clicking in with snow packed on your boot sole. //Walt |
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