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Does skating absolutely require groomed trails?
Aside from the obvious nice heavy top crust snow, is it possible to
skate on snow which is say, 9 inches deep and untraveled? Or is trail breaking something you can't do at all wit skate skis? gr |
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Does skating absolutely require groomed trails?
On Nov 20, 5:55*pm, gr wrote:
Aside from the obvious nice heavy top crust snow, is it possible to skate on snow which is say, 9 inches deep and untraveled? Or is trail breaking something you can't do at all wit skate skis? gr not on "skating skis" (i.e short and narrow) for sure. Skating requires glide. I am not sure what kind of glide you can get through 9" of snow. Breaking trail after a fresh snowfall is "classic" style skiing, but there is not much glide there either |
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Does skating absolutely require groomed trails?
runcyclexcski wrote:
On Nov 20, 5:55 pm, wrote: Aside from the obvious nice heavy top crust snow, is it possible to skate on snow which is say, 9 inches deep and untraveled? Or is trail breaking something you can't do at all wit skate skis? gr not on "skating skis" (i.e short and narrow) for sure. Skating requires glide. I am not sure what kind of glide you can get through 9" of snow. Breaking trail after a fresh snowfall is "classic" style skiing, but there is not much glide there either Indeed. :-) Breaking trail like that, i.e. when sinking 15-20 cm down, reducesyour forward speed to something like 4 km/h, at least when skiing marathon distances with a pack. Trying to skate would just be a very fast way to faceplant. (There is one possible exception though: With no pack, very solid base and up to 15 cm of extremely soft/fresh powder, you can indeed do some skating, but it is a lot more efficient to ski classic style.) Terje -- - Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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Does skating absolutely require groomed trails?
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:55:51 -0500, gr
wrote: Aside from the obvious nice heavy top crust snow, is it possible to skate on snow which is say, 9 inches deep and untraveled? Or is trail breaking something you can't do at all wit skate skis? gr No. You can't skate in those conditions, especially with skate skis; I've tried it. There's a snowmobile trail I can sometimes skate on, and since it's their trail, I get off of it when they come by. Ben |
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Does skating absolutely require groomed trails?
absolutely yes, done it nearly every year on our local golf course out my
door. 400 yard long fairway. first pass 4 minutes slooooooow. second pass, 3:45, third pass, 3:30, until i've packed it myself enough to skate on it fairly well. self grooming!!! Jkal. "gr" wrote in message b.com... Aside from the obvious nice heavy top crust snow, is it possible to skate on snow which is say, 9 inches deep and untraveled? Or is trail breaking something you can't do at all wit skate skis? gr |
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Does skating absolutely require groomed trails?
On 11/21/2011 5:41 PM, outsideinmi wrote:
absolutely yes, done it nearly every year on our local golf course out my door. 400 yard long fairway. first pass 4 minutes slooooooow. second pass, 3:45, third pass, 3:30, until i've packed it myself enough to skate on it fairly well. self grooming!!! Jkal. wrote in message b.com... Aside from the obvious nice heavy top crust snow, is it possible to skate on snow which is say, 9 inches deep and untraveled? Or is trail breaking something you can't do at all wit skate skis? gr Thanks to all for the responses! Sounds like yes for die-hards, but mostly no. |
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Does skating absolutely require groomed trails?
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:23:21 -0500, gr
wrote: On 11/21/2011 5:41 PM, outsideinmi wrote: absolutely yes, done it nearly every year on our local golf course out my door. 400 yard long fairway. first pass 4 minutes slooooooow. second pass, 3:45, third pass, 3:30, until i've packed it myself enough to skate on it fairly well. self grooming!!! Jkal. wrote in message b.com... Aside from the obvious nice heavy top crust snow, is it possible to skate on snow which is say, 9 inches deep and untraveled? Or is trail breaking something you can't do at all wit skate skis? gr Thanks to all for the responses! Sounds like yes for die-hards, but mostly no. You would have to disqualify that "yes" because you specifically asked about skating on virgin 9" snow and he said he has to make several passes to pack it enough to skate on it, so the answer to your question is a unanimous no. Ben |
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Does skating absolutely require groomed trails?
On Nov 21, 5:41*pm, "outsideinmi"
wrote: absolutely yes, done it nearly every year on our local golf course out my door. 400 yard long fairway. *first pass 4 minutes slooooooow. *second pass, 3:45, third pass, 3:30, until i've packed it myself enough to skate on it fairly well. *self grooming!!! There is a lore story that a top Russian nordic skier groomed his own skating trails by dragging a truck tire behind him. In my garrison town they used to send in a platoon skiing three abreast to groom - the result was skate-able to an extent (this is where kids in my town learned skating in the mid 80s). |
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Does skating absolutely require groomed trails?
"gr" wrote in message b.com... Aside from the obvious nice heavy top crust snow, is it possible to skate on snow which is say, 9 inches deep and untraveled? Or is trail breaking something you can't do at all wit skate skis? gr I think the first Birkie I did was something like that. Oof Da!! |
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