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I've tried to send a TR report from our trip to Sun Peaks twice and I
haven't seen it. First try was around 3:15 this afternoon and then again
around 8:21.

If anyone has seen it (the subject line is: Sun Peaks, BC) please let me
know.

Interestingly the BBR ski report, also sent around 3:30 came through
just fine.
Thanks.

On 1/6/2012 9:27 PM, VtSkier wrote:
I've tried to send a TR report from our trip to Sun Peaks twice and I
haven't seen it. First try was around 3:15 this afternoon and then again
around 8:21.

If anyone has seen it (the subject line is: Sun Peaks, BC) please let me
know.

Interestingly the BBR ski report, also sent around 3:30 came through
just fine.
Thanks.

And this came through just fine in less than a minute. Is there a size
limit on usenet posts?

On 1/6/2012 9:28 PM, VtSkier wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:27 PM, VtSkier wrote:
I've tried to send a TR report from our trip to Sun Peaks twice and I
haven't seen it. First try was around 3:15 this afternoon and then again
around 8:21

So...
with a different header, here's the trip report:

Sun Peaks in British Columbia appears from the map to be on the very
western edge of the Rockies. This makes sense since the valley that
includes the city of Kamloops looks for all the world like the Carson
Valley in Nevada, at least in this dry winter landscape.

Some 20 or 30 miles (or so) east of Kamloops following various
prescribed roads we come to the "village" of Sun Peaks. There are lots
of condominiums with various shops which cater to skiers on the bottom
floors. We had actually planned this trip for Christmas 2010 but due to
events had to postpone until this year. Serendipitous that this happened
(more later).

Sun Peaks, compared to Killington has statistics as follows:
SP area: 3678 acres K: 752 acres
SP vertical: 2894' K: 3050'
SP Highest Lift Elev: 6824' K: 4150'(Approx)
SP Av. Snowfall: 18.5' K: 20.8'
SP Lifts: 11 K: 22 (no Pico)
SP Trails: 122 K: 140 (no Pico)
SP Alpine Bowls: 2 K: 0

Commentary on Stats:
Acreage is huge at SP but I suspect that lift served acreage is closer
to that of Killington within the boundaries shown on the maps of each
ski area. Vertical drop is similar but at SP there are upper parts of
the mountain that you won't ski every day while at K there are lower
parts you won't ski every day. Yeah snowfall is comparable but New
England has periods of warm weather and rain in the winter which usually
isn't a concern in the Rockies. Uphill capacity is quite a lot less than
Killington but is reasonable for the number of skier days the area gets.
Number of trails is comparable. Alpine bowls? Well that's just something
we don't have here in New England except maybe for the snowfields at
Sugarloaf.

The wonderful and interesting thing that was aparent to us when we got
to SP was that in a snowless year over much of North America, SP had
SNOW. In fact we had more than a foot of the stuff fall over several
nights while we were there. I'm told this is the usual turn of events.
Not too many really big dumps, but a few inches on a very frequent
schedule. This made for WONDERFUL conditions. It's too bad that we can't
really know how the snowfall for a year is going to turn out because if
we did know that snowfall for a given area of North America was going to
bad, I'd book a period of time at SP any time.

The trails system is interesting as the shape of the mountain is one of
beginning fairly gentle and getting steeper until you get to the bottom.
This makes the trail designation a bit unnerving until you realize that
the blue square trail you coaxed your wife down was just like Rams Head
for the first half way, then it got steeper, but it was wide and
bumpless toward the bottom. Mountains in the Greens seem to start fairly
steep and get gentler as you go down. Look at the Taconic Mountains down
around Dorset and you'll see approximately what SP looked like.

The upper reaches were above timber line, we went up but the light was
very flat when we did and the snow was manky/grippy and not all that
much fun so we came down a bit to ski among the trees. Did I say trees?
You could duck in most anywhere and the trees themselves were western
fir of some sort with reasonable spacing. There wasn't enough snow yet
to discern any tree well danger and the limbs come down quite close to
the ground. Cushiony if you hit one. In California, the trees are
Ponderosas, quite far apart but usually enough room for 3-4 turns per
tree. The trees at SP were more like New England but with GOOD quality
snow and frequent stashes if you went far enough afield.

The one thing we did was to rent a ski-in/ski-out condo. This was a
first for me and I thoroughly enjoyed being able to put my boots on in
the comfort of a Living Room and the price was not outrageous for six of
us. It's a nice experience and I'd recommend it to most anyone.

SP was celebrating its fiftith anniversary of being open. The New Year
celebration was a big-air display, a torchlight parade and a fireworks
display. The big-air and fireworks were quite good but the torchlight
parade (led by Nancy Greene) was delayed for a long time at the top and
when they came down it was more of a "cluster" than a "parade". Our
torchlight parade at Killington several years ago was far better.

Sun Peaks is what Les Otten wanted to turn Killington into, a
Destination Resort. It has all of the amenities available within walking
distance. We never started our car once we arrived until we left. No
need. With that in mind, notice the apparent lack of uphill capacity at
SP. This is less of a problem than it appears. We were there during a
very intense holiday week and the longest line we put up with any day
was no more than ten minutes and one of those day was a Saturday.

Killington's uphill capacity is only really used on weekends because
that's what it is. This is not necessarily bad, but the uncrowded trails
at SP was a welcome respite from a Saturday at Killington.

In short we loved it. We enjoyed skiing with grandchildren and skied
together a lot more than I think we would at another area. My wife was
the weakest adult and did pretty well on the greens and blues all day
long. Nobody had to wait for anybody very long. I don't know if that's a
function of the area or not, but it was pleasant. It was easy for my
wife and the kids to go down a green or blue while the stronger adults
cut the hypotenuse down a black diamond or woods trail.

We only found one REALLY challenging trail. There are apparently others
but this was our experience. We had assigned my wife and grandchildren
to the swimming pool and tubing park while we went across the street to
Mt Morrisey which has more challenging terraine and a north facing
aspect. We expected better snow on the last day after two nights with no
dusting. And we found it.

Went out around on a blue trail to skier's left. We had seen on the map
that several black diamond trails came of this. I skied up to one of
these and found a sign that said something like this and I should have
taken a pictu

"Inconsistent terrain, steep slopes, thin
snow cover, obstacles in the way. Skiing
not recommended."

but the trail was open (I never go down a closed trail). The first half
was fairly steep and had little fir trees poking up through but was easy
enough to ski on and through. Then we came to fork in the trail. We took
the right fork. The trail proceeded to get narrow (down to maybe 30
feet) a LOT steeper, had a hinky fall line (fall down and you go in the
woods) and the little fir trees were more numerous and the trail had
bumped up somewhat. To make a short story we got down fine and had a
story to tell at the end of the run, but the place does have challenging
trails. Fun.

VtSkier wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:27 PM, VtSkier wrote:
I've tried to send a TR report from our trip to Sun Peaks twice and I
haven't seen it. First try was around 3:15 this afternoon and then again
around 8:21.

If anyone has seen it (the subject line is: Sun Peaks, BC) please let me
know.

Interestingly the BBR ski report, also sent around 3:30 came through
just fine.
Thanks.

And this came through just fine in less than a minute. Is there a size
limit on usenet posts?




this and your BBR post which makes me laugh because I had to look for a
license which the driver had miss placed the plate reads "BBR 79"
Going back to Okemo on thursday taking a coaching session on friday with
my son.
Then going to have my boots fitted by the boot shop in Ludlow working
with the coach and he stuffed two trail maps in my sons boots and he
went straight and faster. But he want to take me to boot fitter and get
me pointed the right way. I was going to go back to surefoot but since I
will be at okemo a bit this year it is easier there.
After training and runs I am the slowest in my age group but the only
one who ran on 165 skis and no speedsuit. If they run as straight a
course as they set today will run the 181 and use them like speed skis
otherwise if it is set like a GS will use 171. By the 4th gate I was in
a tuck and carried that position until finish. I do think it will be
similar tomorrow as there is not enough snow to set a good course it
will be rutted up by the time 1/3 of the racers had done their first run.

On Jan 6, 6:28*pm, VtSkier wrote:
On 1/6/2012 9:27 PM, VtSkier wrote:

I've tried to send a TR report from our trip to Sun Peaks twice and I
haven't seen it. First try was around 3:15 this afternoon and then again
around 8:21.

If anyone has seen it (the subject line is: Sun Peaks, BC) please let me
know.

Interestingly the BBR ski report, also sent around 3:30 came through
just fine.
Thanks.

And this came through just fine in less than a minute. Is there a size
limit on usenet posts?

How about discussing Bob Thompson accusing you of raping your brother?

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:50:38 -0500, VtSkier
wrote this crap:



The one thing we did was to rent a ski-in/ski-out condo. This was a
first for me and I thoroughly enjoyed being able to put my boots on in
the comfort of a Living Room and the price was not outrageous for six of
us. It's a nice experience and I'd recommend it to most anyone.

I rented a ski in/ski out condo once and I hated it. Parking was a
mile away. You had to haul all your gear uphill for a mile and it
took three trips. And the snow guns ran all night and since you were
right on the slopes there was a snow gun close by.

Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:50:38 -0500, VtSkier
wrote this crap:


with a different header, here's the trip report:

Sun Peaks in British Columbia appears from the map to be on the very
western edge of the Rockies. This makes sense since the valley that
includes the city of Kamloops looks for all the world like the Carson
Valley in Nevada, at least in this dry winter landscape.

bumped up somewhat. To make a short story we got down fine and had a
story to tell at the end of the run, but the place does have challenging
trails. Fun.

Get to the good part. Did they serve tequila?

Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.

On Jan 6, 7:28*pm, VtSkier wrote:

And this came through just fine in less than a minute. Is there a size
limit on usenet posts?

That's pretty funny! Did you see the size of some of the runon posts
where nobody snipped anything back in the day? Unless you were gone
for 6 years and posted about everyday I don't thing you'd reach a
limit.

Looking forward to it once you get it figgered.

On Jan 7, 7:08*am, pigo wrote:
On Jan 6, 7:28*pm, VtSkier wrote:

And this came through just fine in less than a minute. Is there a size
limit on usenet posts?

That's pretty funny! Did you see the size of some of the runon posts
where nobody snipped anything back in the day? Unless you were gone
for 6 years and posted about everyday I don't thing you'd reach a
limit.

Looking forward to it once you get it figgered.

I'm looking forward to Richard Walsh objecting to Bob Thompson falsely
accusing him of molesting his brother. Indeed, I've been looking
forward to Richard Walsh showing any sign of ethics or decency. For
years.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 08:24:25 -0800 (PST), twobuddha
wrote this crap:

I'm looking forward to Richard Walsh objecting to Bob Thompson falsely
accusing him of molesting his brother. Indeed, I've been looking
forward to Richard Walsh showing any sign of ethics or decency. For
years.

I'm looking forward to reading your obituary.

Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.