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Alsgaard's One Sided V-1
I'm not a coach so I never noticed this but Larry Myers, a Twin Cities
ski coach, asked Alsgaard (when he was in town last month) why he only skis V-1 on his left side. He asked Alsgaard if he could have skied faster if he would have gone to the right on V-1 also. Alsgaard apparently said; "I think my results were pretty good..." Jay Tegeder "Keep training, lycra never lies!" JT |
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Byström's One Sided V-1
In article , Jay Tegeder wrote:
I'm not a coach so I never noticed this but Larry Myers, a Twin Cities ski coach, asked Alsgaard (when he was in town last month) why he only skis V-1 on his left side. I don't intend, in any way, to compare myself with Thomas Alsgaard, but I find it totally impossible to switch sides in V1. I can switch the leading leg in V2alt, and switch legs in DP with push (but Lazutina and Anders Bergström usually can't) - but everything breaks down with the V1 switch. Does any one have a trick to practice the switch? It sure would be nice to do it. /Tomas - maybe it's a matter of the first name? :-) -- Caps and foobar are normally not parts of my address. |
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Alsgaard's One Sided V-1
I wonder if he trained for right side V-1. Bet he did.
Also wonder what a guy like Alsgaard skis the classic style Marcialonga for. Will he drop out? Can a guy like this feel ok about being in the top 50 or so? Or does he go for a Worldloppet win? Sorta doubt he has been training with an event like this in mind. Whatever the answers are, it is good for the sport that he is still involved and entered this race. Think it's a world cup this year, but I suppose Alsgard is entering as an elite citizen racer. Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Tegeder" Newsgroups: rec.skiing.nordic Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:46 PM Subject: Alsgaard's One Sided V-1 I'm not a coach so I never noticed this but Larry Myers, a Twin Cities ski coach, asked Alsgaard (when he was in town last month) why he only skis V-1 on his left side. He asked Alsgaard if he could have skied faster if he would have gone to the right on V-1 also. Alsgaard apparently said; "I think my results were pretty good..." Jay Tegeder "Keep training, lycra never lies!" JT "Jay Tegeder" wrote in message om... I'm not a coach so I never noticed this but Larry Myers, a Twin Cities ski coach, asked Alsgaard (when he was in town last month) why he only skis V-1 on his left side. He asked Alsgaard if he could have skied faster if he would have gone to the right on V-1 also. Alsgaard apparently said; "I think my results were pretty good..." Jay Tegeder "Keep training, lycra never lies!" JT |
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Byström's One Sided V-1
"Tomas Bystrom" wrote in message
... I don't intend, in any way, to compare myself with Thomas Alsgaard, but I find it totally impossible to switch sides in V1. I can switch the leading leg in V2alt, and switch legs in DP with push (but Lazutina and Anders Bergström usually can't) - but everything breaks down with the V1 switch. Does any one have a trick to practice the switch? It sure would be nice to do it. You need to keep your momentum as you switch sides. That means the tempo should not stutter but the rhythm will flip. Imagine you're V1ing on the right side. Try this: Right right right tap left left left The quick pole-tap on the right side is simultaneous with a strong push from the right leg to launch you over to the left side quickly. You wont be putting any power into the pole-tap - it's just a timing aid to get you onto the left side rhythm without stalling. Of course, you have to be pretty equally comfortable V1ing on each side before you try switching in mid-hill. Bob "I can't believe I'm posting on a technique thread" |
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Byström's One Sided V-1
My quick thought is that one might often do a cycle with no poles to switch sides.
Otherwise, it seems like I can switch sides without missing a beat really. Kinda like doing V2 only it's V1 on both sides---a bit hasty but can be done. And going up a big hill gives motivation to not miss a beat. -- Jeff Potter **** *Out Your Backdoor * http://www.outyourbackdoor.com publisher of outdoor/indoor do-it-yourself culture... ...offering "small world" views on bikes, bows, books, movies... ...rare books on ski, bike, boat culture, plus a Gulf Coast thriller about smalltown smuggling ... radical novels coming up! ...original downloadable music ... and articles galore! plus national travel forums! HOLY SMOKES! 800-763-6923 |
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Byström's One Sided V-1
I do it either as Bob suggested (tapping on one side)
or, if the hill is not very steep, include one step of V2, and then switch. I find it very helpful to be able to do V1 on both sides. I learned how to V1 when I was ~10 (when I saw it on TV - 1986?), but kept V1ing only on one side - right that is - till very recently. Learning the left V1 was pain in the ..., but definitely worth the effort. It's like having an additional gear in your car. Andrey. Tomas Bystrom wrote in message ... In article , Jay Tegeder wrote: I'm not a coach so I never noticed this but Larry Myers, a Twin Cities ski coach, asked Alsgaard (when he was in town last month) why he only skis V-1 on his left side. I don't intend, in any way, to compare myself with Thomas Alsgaard, but I find it totally impossible to switch sides in V1. I can switch the leading leg in V2alt, and switch legs in DP with push (but Lazutina and Anders Bergström usually can't) - but everything breaks down with the V1 switch. Does any one have a trick to practice the switch? It sure would be nice to do it. /Tomas - maybe it's a matter of the first name? :-) |
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Byström's One Sided V-1
This tap seems like maybe a single phase of diagonal skate. Or maybe it ends up being just a
faint/incomplete V1--you cut the poling in half to give you more time to get over to the other side. Ha...I haven't done it enough lately to remember. revyakin wrote: I do it either as Bob suggested (tapping on one side) --- Jeff Potter **** *Out Your Backdoor * http://www.outyourbackdoor.com publisher of outdoor/indoor do-it-yourself culture... ...offering "small world" views on bikes, bows, books, movies... ...rare books on ski, bike, boat culture, plus a Gulf Coast thriller about smalltown smuggling ... radical novels coming up! ...original downloadable music ... and articles galore! plus national travel forums! HOLY SMOKES! 800-763-6923 |
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Byström's One Sided V-1
I thought Ski Boy Bob was boycotting my posts... I started this thread
and Thomas Bystrom quoted my original post in his thread so Ski Boy Bob had to read it. Very interesting... Jay Tegeder "Keep training, lycra never lies!" JT "Bob" wrote in message ... "Tomas Bystrom" wrote in message ... I don't intend, in any way, to compare myself with Thomas Alsgaard, but I find it totally impossible to switch sides in V1. I can switch the leading leg in V2alt, and switch legs in DP with push (but Lazutina and Anders Bergström usually can't) - but everything breaks down with the V1 switch. Does any one have a trick to practice the switch? It sure would be nice to do it. You need to keep your momentum as you switch sides. That means the tempo should not stutter but the rhythm will flip. Imagine you're V1ing on the right side. Try this: Right right right tap left left left The quick pole-tap on the right side is simultaneous with a strong push from the right leg to launch you over to the left side quickly. You wont be putting any power into the pole-tap - it's just a timing aid to get you onto the left side rhythm without stalling. Of course, you have to be pretty equally comfortable V1ing on each side before you try switching in mid-hill. Bob "I can't believe I'm posting on a technique thread" |
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Byström's One Sided V-1
Jeff Potter wrote in message ...
This tap seems like maybe a single phase of diagonal skate. Or maybe it ends up being just a faint/incomplete V1--you cut the poling in half to give you more time to get over to the other side. Ha...I haven't done it enough lately to remember. revyakin wrote: I do it either as Bob suggested (tapping on one side) I dont think its so much half of a v1 poling phase, or at least thats not how i do it. what i typically do is just plant my pole, and then do a quick turnover, and then do a complete phase on the other size. I dont know if this is clear, if it isnt, ask and i will try to make it clear -laxer |
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Alsgaard's One Sided V-1
Gary Jacobson wrote:
I wonder if he trained for right side V-1. Bet he did. Also wonder what a guy like Alsgaard skis the classic style Marcialonga for. Will he drop out? Can a guy like this feel ok about being in the top 50 or so? Or does he go for a Worldloppet win? Sorta doubt he has been training with an event like this in mind. Whatever the answers are, it is good for the sport that he is still involved and entered this race. Think it's a world cup this year, but I suppose Alsgard is entering as an elite citizen racer. I don't think people at Worldloppet changed that much in last 5 or 6 years. I did only few races and except for last one when I wasn't training anymore for real I never had problems. For first one I did I could be pretty easy in top 20 if I knew it would be that easy and not knowing track didn't help much Second one I was still in top 30 even though I was probably only one with classic skis in that race (track was changed and all uphills dissapeared but since those races were more fun then anything else noone of us didn't really bother to check until start when I saw everyone having skating skis there since it was 60km of completely flat field And you have to count I was nowhere near Alsgaard, so I'm pretty sure he can easily win any of those races if he takes it at least a bit more serious we did and he goes to bed a bit before 4am "Jay Tegeder" wrote in message skis V-1 on his left side. He asked Alsgaard if he could have skied faster if he would have gone to the right on V-1 also. Alsgaard apparently said; "I think my results were pretty good..." I'm sure he was doing it both sides during trainings. During race you go as you think it's best and fastest for you. I never changed sides myself during race either, even though I never had problems skiing both sides on training. And his answer was pretty much in style of his answer about Americans thinking too much about technique, as you wrote here once before. -- Primoz Support - IP/VoIP Connectivity & Routing ------------------------------------------------------------------- Primoz Jeroncic tel: +386 1 562 31 40 | Borovec 2 fax: +386 1 562 18 55 | 1 + 1 = 3 1236 Trzin | for larger values of 1 Slovenija http://flea.softnet.si/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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