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Fun things I did during Birkie Week
Had a lot of fun during Birkie Week this year, except for that
painfull 3+ hours I spent trying to race on Saturday. My family and I had a condo at Telemark this year so I was able to spend more time participating in the festivities. Some of the more interesting things we 1) Got to talk to Andrew Gerlach and thank him for all the newsy emails. 2) Had a beer with the "ladies" of Bitch Hill. Just don't call them Bitches. Apparently, when they first started doing it, they used to actually bitch at people. Something along the lines of "you call that skiing? Hurry up, you're way behind." And the early skiers are generally good sports with some fun banter going on. But somewhere around skier #1,000 that all changes. Skiers that are that far back are so beat by the time they get to Bitch Hill that some of them would actually break down and start crying when the ladies would bitch at them. So now they usually just offer encouragement. 3) Had an interesting chat with Rebecca Dussault and a friend of hers. It went something like this: Me: Nice result today! Conditions were tough for a race this long. Rebecca: Thanks. Oh, conditions weren't that bad. Rebecca's friend: Not that bad? You told me this was the hardest thing you've ever done. Rebecca: Yeah, it was tougher than child birth. Just knowing that someone as good as her had a tough time made me feel better about how badly my race went. Anyway, it was a really nice week to be on snow in northern Wisconsin. Andy Schwartz Milwaukee Wisconsin |
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I quit doing the Birkie this year, thanks to RSN's Jay Tegeder.
Jay recommended me for taking over the head announcer's job at the Birkie and I took it. I couldn't pass up all of the schmoozing and possibilities in the future. To be a race chief and head announcer of the largest ski marathon in North America is quite an honor. Fun things that I know about, "behind the scenes". A Birkie skier broke his ski about 6km into the 51km race. He finished the remaining 45km, skiing on one ski and using both poles. A young man in the front of wave 9, proposed to his future bride right at the start line. I announced the proposal over the PA system, so everyone remaining at the start knew about it. WDIO TV from Duluth caught the whole thing on tape. The woman was so emotional and weak from the proposal, that I suspect that she had a hard time skiing when the canon went off. My wife, Liz Wagner picked up some hardware, placing 3rd in her age group for the Women's Birkie Classic. Great job to all of you who did the race. I'll be watching for Jay Wenner, Front Runner, and Brian May's race reports. Greg Fangel "Andy Schwartz" wrote in message om... Had a lot of fun during Birkie Week this year, except for that painfull 3+ hours I spent trying to race on Saturday. My family and I had a condo at Telemark this year so I was able to spend more time participating in the festivities. Some of the more interesting things we 1) Got to talk to Andrew Gerlach and thank him for all the newsy emails. 2) Had a beer with the "ladies" of Bitch Hill. Just don't call them Bitches. Apparently, when they first started doing it, they used to actually bitch at people. Something along the lines of "you call that skiing? Hurry up, you're way behind." And the early skiers are generally good sports with some fun banter going on. But somewhere around skier #1,000 that all changes. Skiers that are that far back are so beat by the time they get to Bitch Hill that some of them would actually break down and start crying when the ladies would bitch at them. So now they usually just offer encouragement. 3) Had an interesting chat with Rebecca Dussault and a friend of hers. It went something like this: Me: Nice result today! Conditions were tough for a race this long. Rebecca: Thanks. Oh, conditions weren't that bad. Rebecca's friend: Not that bad? You told me this was the hardest thing you've ever done. Rebecca: Yeah, it was tougher than child birth. Just knowing that someone as good as her had a tough time made me feel better about how badly my race went. Anyway, it was a really nice week to be on snow in northern Wisconsin. Andy Schwartz Milwaukee Wisconsin |
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I was lucky enough to be the young man who proposed at the race. Thank you
so much Greg! I really appreciate your help--It couldn't have gone better! By the way we skiied the "race" together and we did manage to finish. It was her first time skiiing more than about 12k. By the way, She had no plans to ski the race on Friday night when we arrived at Telemark to meet friends. But I had this planned, so I "spontaniously" suggested we ski the Korte together as a tour. Fortunately, after some arm twisting, she agreed it'd beat watching everyone else ski. It all fell into place and it was a big surprise to her. Jack Davis "Greg Fangel" wrote in message news:72f_b.104887$jk2.475316@attbi_s53... I quit doing the Birkie this year, thanks to RSN's Jay Tegeder. Jay recommended me for taking over the head announcer's job at the Birkie and I took it. I couldn't pass up all of the schmoozing and possibilities in the future. To be a race chief and head announcer of the largest ski marathon in North America is quite an honor. Fun things that I know about, "behind the scenes". A Birkie skier broke his ski about 6km into the 51km race. He finished the remaining 45km, skiing on one ski and using both poles. A young man in the front of wave 9, proposed to his future bride right at the start line. I announced the proposal over the PA system, so everyone remaining at the start knew about it. WDIO TV from Duluth caught the whole thing on tape. The woman was so emotional and weak from the proposal, that I suspect that she had a hard time skiing when the canon went off. My wife, Liz Wagner picked up some hardware, placing 3rd in her age group for the Women's Birkie Classic. Great job to all of you who did the race. I'll be watching for Jay Wenner, Front Runner, and Brian May's race reports. Greg Fangel "Andy Schwartz" wrote in message om... Had a lot of fun during Birkie Week this year, except for that painfull 3+ hours I spent trying to race on Saturday. My family and I had a condo at Telemark this year so I was able to spend more time participating in the festivities. Some of the more interesting things we 1) Got to talk to Andrew Gerlach and thank him for all the newsy emails. 2) Had a beer with the "ladies" of Bitch Hill. Just don't call them Bitches. Apparently, when they first started doing it, they used to actually bitch at people. Something along the lines of "you call that skiing? Hurry up, you're way behind." And the early skiers are generally good sports with some fun banter going on. But somewhere around skier #1,000 that all changes. Skiers that are that far back are so beat by the time they get to Bitch Hill that some of them would actually break down and start crying when the ladies would bitch at them. So now they usually just offer encouragement. 3) Had an interesting chat with Rebecca Dussault and a friend of hers. It went something like this: Me: Nice result today! Conditions were tough for a race this long. Rebecca: Thanks. Oh, conditions weren't that bad. Rebecca's friend: Not that bad? You told me this was the hardest thing you've ever done. Rebecca: Yeah, it was tougher than child birth. Just knowing that someone as good as her had a tough time made me feel better about how badly my race went. Anyway, it was a really nice week to be on snow in northern Wisconsin. Andy Schwartz Milwaukee Wisconsin |
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Andy Schwartz wrote:
3) Had an interesting chat with Rebecca Dussault and a friend of hers. It went something like this: Me: Nice result today! Conditions were tough for a race this long. Rebecca: Thanks. Oh, conditions weren't that bad. Rebecca's friend: Not that bad? You told me this was the hardest thing you've ever done. Rebecca: Yeah, it was tougher than child birth. Nice stories. I don't know, but wondered if her entry was last minute and whether she had a chance to ski most of the course. With rolling hills that seem to keep coming, it's probably a different kind of course than she's been on recently and I wonder if she had a team out there with her to help pace, or she just had to latch onto whoever was nearby. In general, I had also wondered how the Subaru men would fare against the Italians. It's clear to take them on you need to show up in numbers. Zanatel later said that he was a bit cooked from the sprints on Thursday, so having a strong team really helps. Obviously, the US skiers couldn't quite stay with the Europeans, except for Mark Gilbertson apparently hanging on their tail. Would love to hear a race report from him. Anyone know him? Gene |
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"Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message ... Obviously, the US skiers couldn't quite stay with the Europeans, except for Mark Gilbertson apparently hanging on their tail. Would love to hear a race report from him. Anyone know him? Gene if you're trying to hang on to him, marc can make you hurt on hilly courses like no one else. or in soft stuff. or both. after the birkie we were talking about his mora vasaloppet race of two weeks ago and he said (paraphrasing here) "chad is so tough to beat in mora. i tried to put it to him the whole race - skied a lot harder than i did here [at this year's birkie] and i couldn't shake him." this coming from the only american to finish in the front group. i guess that's more a story about how every race is different and how different terrain affects different skiers than it is a story about marc. fwiw. phil |
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I'll agree with you there, Phil, but if you know Mark's email it would
be interesting to hear from him about what it was like working (and not working) with the front group. To add to a fun thing during Birkie week, I met rsn contributer Phillip Nelson from near Green Bay. We skied some of the demos Friday a little and he invited me to a friendly party of West Bend, WI skiers Sat evening. Gene "p.bowen" wrote: "Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message ... Obviously, the US skiers couldn't quite stay with the Europeans, except for Mark Gilbertson apparently hanging on their tail. Would love to hear a race report from him. Anyone know him? Gene if you're trying to hang on to him, marc can make you hurt on hilly courses like no one else. or in soft stuff. or both. after the birkie we were talking about his mora vasaloppet race of two weeks ago and he said (paraphrasing here) "chad is so tough to beat in mora. i tried to put it to him the whole race - skied a lot harder than i did here [at this year's birkie] and i couldn't shake him." this coming from the only american to finish in the front group. i guess that's more a story about how every race is different and how different terrain affects different skiers than it is a story about marc. fwiw. phil |
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GG wrote: "Obviously, the US skiers couldn't quite stay with the
Europeans, except for Mark Gilbertson apparently hanging on their tail. Would love to hear a race report from him. Anyone know him?" Rob Bradlee has gotta know Marc Gilbertson. I'm a fan of Marc G who skis with tremendous courage & heart. He is unafraid of blowing up and has always gone out to challenge the Italians. Generally it pays off with a top-American finish, or close to it. Sometimes he has come up unlucky on Main Street, but this year he was "there." You can see the mens finish on skinnyski.com. Tight racing. It was Marc with Babikov (of Canada) plus 4 Italians & Stanislav Rezac in a bunch finish. So with that kind of team presence, yeah, the Italians are surely going to do well. We need to put more Americans on Main Street. This was the best North American finish I am aware of recent times. I wish that Marc could hook up with some Factory guys (like Lars Flora) all the way to play the front pack tactics. We know he can play the game, but he is simply out manned at the line. It's pretty tough to win there. Rezac did very well on main street too, but he skied in the middle of the Italians. There was a cool photo in the Duluth paper of the lead pack @ Mosquito Brook with Lars Flora in the lead, and all the Italians in tow, tip to tail. #7 Marc G was in the mix then too. Writeup said he had taken the lead at some point and slowed them down for other Americans to catch up. |
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Just finished watching the finish on video. Very cool. Gilbertson
didn't have a chance. He's one heck of a skier but doesn't have closing speed the way the Italians do, or Giese at Mora for that matter. I've heard rumours of the Italians playing games with tactics and such. With that in mind, it seems a little surprising they didn't go three wide in the finishing sprint, i.e., everyone just filed in behind Zanatel. They were leading into the home stretch and could have locked it up for the team by taking all the lanes. As it was, Rezac got a clear shot to the line, but coming from 4th didn't have the real estate to get by Zanatel. He looked pretty happy with 2nd place though (sprinting past Fauner isn't too shabby!). Cheers, Brian In article , Dell Todd wrote: I'm a fan of Marc G who skis with tremendous courage & heart. He is unafraid of blowing up and has always gone out to challenge the Italians. Generally it pays off with a top-American finish, or close to it. Sometimes he has come up unlucky on Main Street, but this year he was "there." You can see the mens finish on skinnyski.com. Tight racing. |
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Yeah, I know Mark from the Elite Sprints and the Press Conference at
the Birkie the last 6 years or so. He lives in Burlington, Vermont. You're not a stalker are you Gene? Zach Caldwell probably knows how to get ahold of him. Jay Tegeder "Keep training, lycra never lies!" JT Gene Goldenfeld wrote in message ... Andy Schwartz wrote: 3) Had an interesting chat with Rebecca Dussault and a friend of hers. It went something like this: Me: Nice result today! Conditions were tough for a race this long. Rebecca: Thanks. Oh, conditions weren't that bad. Rebecca's friend: Not that bad? You told me this was the hardest thing you've ever done. Rebecca: Yeah, it was tougher than child birth. Nice stories. I don't know, but wondered if her entry was last minute and whether she had a chance to ski most of the course. With rolling hills that seem to keep coming, it's probably a different kind of course than she's been on recently and I wonder if she had a team out there with her to help pace, or she just had to latch onto whoever was nearby. In general, I had also wondered how the Subaru men would fare against the Italians. It's clear to take them on you need to show up in numbers. Zanatel later said that he was a bit cooked from the sprints on Thursday, so having a strong team really helps. Obviously, the US skiers couldn't quite stay with the Europeans, except for Mark Gilbertson apparently hanging on their tail. Would love to hear a race report from him. Anyone know him? Gene |
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Rob Bradlee has gotta know Marc Gilbertson. I see Marc at lots of races. He's a super guy and a great skier. Very outgoing and charming. He works as a school teacher and just races on weekends. I don't have his email, but if I bump into him later this year I'll be sure to ask for details of the Battle d'Italia. Great to see him as top American. He's got the chops. Rob |
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