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  #11  
Old July 29th 10, 01:21 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Jul 28, 4:12*pm, Richard Henry wrote:
On Jul 28, 2:49*pm, twobuddha wrote:

I can fix that. *This pathetic asshole encouraged a wack job stalker
to kill me, and posted my home address to help him find me.....after
the idiot threatened my life. *When confronted about his profound and
obvious cowardice, Richard Walsh tried to justify his vileness by
claiming that since my address is available online, he did not help a
stalker.
Which begs the question of why any decent human being would encourage
anyone to kill me over a stupid newsgroup.
Of course, this dickless coward never has had and never will have the
balls to spew his crap in person.


Liar.


You're right. I forgot to mention he is a lying piece of ****
dickless coward, also.
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  #12  
Old July 29th 10, 03:48 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
Alan Baker
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In article
,
snowbender wrote:

On Jul 28, 10:10 am, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,
snowbender wrote:


You're only half right; his post was very diplomatic, given his
audients were them epicski bears, and you gappers alike, it sounds
like it's you haven't got a clue.


That your "technique" is only useful as an exercise and is a worse way
to ski all the time.


You should have read his "whole" post before you draw your conclusion.


I did.


No, you did not, and you only read a part of what I quoted. Here's
what he was talking about "discipline":


Nope. I read his entire post.


"The drills and scales develop skills, in ways both obvious and
specific, and subtle and global. They develop discipline, and only on
a foundation of discipline can virtuosos truly express themselves.
There is a vast difference between the disciplined athlete, musician,
dancer, or engineer "improvising" and an unskilled, undisciplined
person just wingin' it."


None of which contradicts anything I've said.


He clearly says that your technique is only useful as an exercise.


"only" is your little mind misread, "Anyone would benefit from turning
Snowbender's "style" into a drill and seeking to master it, even if
you don't like skiing that way."


Right. As a drill, it's useful. And here's what he also says about
drills: "They are not skiing.

So he says what you do is useful as a drill and that drills are not
skiing. Hence, he's saying that what you do is not skiing.


He was advocating that "exercise" develops "discipline," and
"discipline" lays the foundation for expert skiing, and exercise/
practicing drills are not real skiing.


Right. And thus since he says that your technique is only useful as an
exercise, he is saying it is not real skiing.


"There is a vast difference between the disciplined athlete, musician,
dancer, or engineer "improvising" and an unskilled, undisciplined
person just wingin' it." You are mouthing on the 'net, not even
"wingin' it."


Nothing in that real quote contradicts what I've said.


"Any true expert could easily imitate his movements and "style" if he
wanted to."


That's quite true, nevertheless, you still have to be a "true expert"
first to imitate [my] movements, and that alone is already beyond you
gappers' grasp. Guess that why you cannot comprehend the next
statement neither. "While it is true that few experts ski like him
(very often), it is also true that anyone who cannot ski like
Snowbender is certainly not an expert."


Which is not what you claim he said. Saying "anyone one who cannot is
not an expert" does not mean one must be an expert in order to do it.


Yes, "you are reading comprehension challenged" alright, as well as
lack of critical thinking skills. Would that be just easier to read as
what it is, "anyone who cannot ski like Snowbender is certainly not an
expert."? Given if not B then not A, that was to say that
"Snowbender's" performance sets the minimum standard for expert
skiing.


No. It sets one criterion of an expert skier. It doesn't say that there
aren't more and more important ones.

"If not A, then not B" does not equate to "if A, then B".

Read and learn:

"While it is true that few experts ski in the snowplow (very often), it
is also true that anyone who cannot ski in the snowplow is certainly not
an expert."

See? That statement doesn't support a claim that "you still have to be a
'true expert' to ski in the snowplow", does it?


Illegitimate inference, and poorly written English.


Perfectly written and perfectly clear.

Which is why you don't want to face it.


I did say you were reading comprehension challenged.


LOL


And soon you'll turn shameless.


LOL

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  #13  
Old July 29th 10, 05:01 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Jul 28, 8:48 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article ,
snowbender wrote:
On Jul 28, 10:10 am, Alan Baker wrote:
In article ,
snowbender wrote:


"The drills and scales develop skills, in ways both obvious and
specific, and subtle and global. They develop discipline, and only on
a foundation of discipline can virtuosos truly express themselves.
There is a vast difference between the disciplined athlete, musician,
dancer, or engineer "improvising" and an unskilled, undisciplined
person just wingin' it."


None of which contradicts anything I've said.


Yes, practice makes discipline, and discipline spawns expert skiing.
It all begins with practice. And you are "an unskilled, undisciplined
person just wingin' it."

"only" is your little mind misread, "Anyone would benefit from turning
Snowbender's "style" into a drill and seeking to master it, even if
you don't like skiing that way."


Right. As a drill, it's useful. And here's what he also says about
drills: "They are not skiing.

So he says what you do is useful as a drill and that drills are not
skiing. Hence, he's saying that what you do is not skiing.


Well, to him maybe a drill, (and to you gappers alike, as he was
addressing to nonflatboarding audience,) but not mine, as those clips
were only my "everyday" skiing, while he may still have some catch up
to do, and that alone makes my skiing expert skiing already.

"There is a vast difference between the disciplined athlete, musician,
dancer, or engineer "improvising" and an unskilled, undisciplined
person just wingin' it." You are mouthing on the 'net, not even
"wingin' it."


Nothing in that real quote contradicts what I've said.


No, nevertheless, you are the "unskilled, undisciplined person" he was
talking about.

Yes, "you are reading comprehension challenged" alright, as well as
lack of critical thinking skills. Would that be just easier to read as
what it is, "anyone who cannot ski like Snowbender is certainly not an
expert."? Given if not B then not A, that was to say that
"Snowbender's" performance sets the minimum standard for expert
skiing.


No. It sets one criterion of an expert skier. It doesn't say that there
aren't more and more important ones.


Minimum standard/requirement, which separates the expert skiing and
non-expert skiing, is already descriptive enough.

"If not A, then not B" does not equate to "if A, then B".


That's your little mind misread again. The critical thinking skill is
"if not B then not A" for double negative.

Read and learn:


"While it is true that few experts ski in the snowplow (very often), it
is also true that anyone who cannot ski in the snowplow is certainly not
an expert."


See? That statement doesn't support a claim that "you still have to be a
'true expert' to ski in the snowplow", does it?


Illegitimate inference, and poorly written English.


Perfectly written and perfectly clear.

Which is why you don't want to face it.


See how you start to turn shameless? What makes you think that is
"Perfectly written and perfectly clear" statement when you cannot face
the original statement? "Would that be just easier to read as what it
is, "anyone who cannot ski like Snowbender is certainly not an
expert.""?

I did say you were reading comprehension challenged.


LOL


And soon you'll turn shameless.


LOL


It's coming...

snowbender

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Vancouver, British Columbia

  #14  
Old July 29th 10, 06:13 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
Alan Baker
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In article
,
snowbender wrote:

On Jul 28, 8:48 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,
snowbender wrote:
On Jul 28, 10:10 am, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,
snowbender wrote:


"The drills and scales develop skills, in ways both obvious and
specific, and subtle and global. They develop discipline, and only on
a foundation of discipline can virtuosos truly express themselves.
There is a vast difference between the disciplined athlete, musician,
dancer, or engineer "improvising" and an unskilled, undisciplined
person just wingin' it."


None of which contradicts anything I've said.


Yes, practice makes discipline, and discipline spawns expert skiing.
It all begins with practice. And you are "an unskilled, undisciplined
person just wingin' it."

"only" is your little mind misread, "Anyone would benefit from turning
Snowbender's "style" into a drill and seeking to master it, even if
you don't like skiing that way."


Right. As a drill, it's useful. And here's what he also says about
drills: "They are not skiing.

So he says what you do is useful as a drill and that drills are not
skiing. Hence, he's saying that what you do is not skiing.


Well, to him maybe a drill, (and to you gappers alike, as he was
addressing to nonflatboarding audience,) but not mine, as those clips
were only my "everyday" skiing, while he may still have some catch up
to do, and that alone makes my skiing expert skiing already.

"There is a vast difference between the disciplined athlete, musician,
dancer, or engineer "improvising" and an unskilled, undisciplined
person just wingin' it." You are mouthing on the 'net, not even
"wingin' it."


Nothing in that real quote contradicts what I've said.


No, nevertheless, you are the "unskilled, undisciplined person" he was
talking about.

Yes, "you are reading comprehension challenged" alright, as well as
lack of critical thinking skills. Would that be just easier to read as
what it is, "anyone who cannot ski like Snowbender is certainly not an
expert."? Given if not B then not A, that was to say that
"Snowbender's" performance sets the minimum standard for expert
skiing.


No. It sets one criterion of an expert skier. It doesn't say that there
aren't more and more important ones.


Minimum standard/requirement, which separates the expert skiing and
non-expert skiing, is already descriptive enough.

"If not A, then not B" does not equate to "if A, then B".


That's your little mind misread again. The critical thinking skill is
"if not B then not A" for double negative.


The contrapositive of "if not B then not A" is not "if B, then A", but
"if A, then B"

In other words, if you can't do the chai tea drill, then you're not an
expert skier doesn't mean that if you can do it you are.

It means that if you are and expert skier, you can do the drill.

http://whyslopes.com/etc/ThreeSkillsForAlgebra/ch29.html

You don't deserve it, but I'm giving you a chance to learn.

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Vancouver, British Columbia
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Old July 29th 10, 01:47 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Jul 28, 11:13 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,
snowbender wrote:


"If not A, then not B" does not equate to "if A, then B".


That's your little mind misread again. The critical thinking skill is
"if not B then not A" for double negative.


The contrapositive of "if not B then not A" is not "if B, then A", but
"if A, then B"


Not bad, at least you start to study before you open your mouth.
Nevertheless, "if B, then A" is your stipulation.

In other words, if you can't do the chai tea drill, then you're not an
expert skier doesn't mean that if you can do it you are.


Yes, by the virtue of "If A Then B" = "If not B then not A."

It means that if you are and expert skier, you can do the drill.


Yes, 1) as his message is to you gappers alike, it is to encourage you
"unskilled undisciplined person" to practice my skiing to become a
better skier, and 2) I do it as my everyday skiing ("can do"),
accordingly, an expert skier.

http://whyslopes.com/etc/ThreeSkillsForAlgebra/ch29.html

You don't deserve it, but I'm giving you a chance to learn.


I'm already "there"; it is you who need to catch up; read my thread
"Definition of truth" (on Nov 2008 sometime) on this newsgroup.

snowbender

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Vancouver, British Columbia

  #16  
Old July 29th 10, 01:51 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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taichiskiing wrote:
You gappers sucked.



Hey! It's a "You All Suck" post.

They're my favorite.

//Walt
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Old July 29th 10, 03:12 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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Walt wrote:
taichiskiing wrote:
You gappers sucked.



Hey! It's a "You All Suck" post.

They're my favorite.

//Walt

He has a great way of proving how credible he is.
I think he needs to adjust his meds.....
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Old July 29th 10, 03:50 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Jul 29, 6:51*am, Walt wrote:
taichiskiing wrote:
You gappers sucked.


Hey! *It's a "You All Suck" post.


You DO suck, asshole.

They're my favorite.


Then respond to MY posts so I can give you some more of your favorite
treatment, freak.
What kind of pppppuuuuuusssssyyyyy jokes with Horvath?
You REALLY suck.
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Old July 29th 10, 03:50 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Jul 29, 8:12*am, downhill wrote:
Walt wrote:
taichiskiing wrote:
You gappers sucked.


Hey! *It's a "You All Suck" post.


They're my favorite.


//Walt


He has a great way of proving how credible he is.
I think he needs to adjust his meds.....


This from a dickless freak who buddies up to Horvath. Talk about
destroying your credibility.
I think you need to adjust your alcohol intake.
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Old July 29th 10, 04:04 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Jul 29, 6:47*am, snowbender
wrote:

snowbender


Why the name change? Trying to evade ****ed-off former students?
 




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