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From the Jenex website:
Marty Hall has got to love this: On Wednesday, April 14, Thomas Alsgaard signed a contract with the Norwegian National Team. Krister Soergard said Thomas will be working with us on technique, especially freestyle. Krister said: "Thomas must have seen how our skiers struggled last year especially with freestyle technique." So much for the new Norwegian skating technique. |
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I enjoy your needling a bit Gene, but maybe don't entirely agree.
We've been talking at times about "new skate technique", without it ever being all that precisely defined. Also the technique tape from the Trondheim WC's from 7 years ago (not terribly new!) have sometimes come up in these conversations. But the phrase you use, namely, "new Norwegian skating technique" I don't recall, but maybe others have used it (Have I???) Anyway it will be fun to see how the Norwegians do in the skate races next year. My very indirect impression about Alsgaard is that he's a really "do your own thing" kind of guy, not the typical coach's personality. The actual skate results recently by the Norwegians are of course way better than those of skiers coached by some of the names of US coaches you've brought up, e.g. Marty Hall and Borowski, I suspect. So are you judging the value of the technique on the basis of the self-satisfaction it induces in skiers, rather than the actual speed they get in races? The Norwegians are expressing a low level of self-satisfaction, from that quote, but that's probably an ominous sign for their competitors! Best, Peter |
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You're absolutely right, Peter about Alsgaard being a "do your own thing"
skier. He admitted that when we saw him here in the Twin Cities last fall. In fact he said that the Norwegian coaches were quite upset with him, not following their regime. It will be interesting to see how he does as a coach. Greg Fangel wrote in message ... I enjoy your needling a bit Gene, but maybe don't entirely agree. We've been talking at times about "new skate technique", without it ever being all that precisely defined. Also the technique tape from the Trondheim WC's from 7 years ago (not terribly new!) have sometimes come up in these conversations. But the phrase you use, namely, "new Norwegian skating technique" I don't recall, but maybe others have used it (Have I???) Anyway it will be fun to see how the Norwegians do in the skate races next year. My very indirect impression about Alsgaard is that he's a really "do your own thing" kind of guy, not the typical coach's personality. The actual skate results recently by the Norwegians are of course way better than those of skiers coached by some of the names of US coaches you've brought up, e.g. Marty Hall and Borowski, I suspect. So are you judging the value of the technique on the basis of the self-satisfaction it induces in skiers, rather than the actual speed they get in races? The Norwegians are expressing a low level of self-satisfaction, from that quote, but that's probably an ominous sign for their competitors! Best, Peter |
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At the highest levels of sport, the role of a coach can be helping the
athlete find what works for him/her, not just imparting standardized knowledge. JT |
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OK, Gene, NEWSKATE has touched down, over and out (or whatever they say).
Sorry for assuming you were the author of the clever dig about "so much for the new Norwegian skate technique"! I guess one shouldn't even assume a quote with no accompanying comment implies tacit agreement with the quote. Best, Peter |
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No, just an FYI about Alsgaard that wasn't worth rewriting. I don't
really know what Len was referring to. wrote: OK, Gene, NEWSKATE has touched down, over and out (or whatever they say). Sorry for assuming you were the author of the clever dig about "so much for the new Norwegian skate technique"! I guess one shouldn't even assume a quote with no accompanying comment implies tacit agreement with the quote. Best, Peter |
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Gene Goldenfeld wrote in message ...
From the Jenex website: Marty Hall has got to love this: On Wednesday, April 14, Thomas Alsgaard signed a contract with the Norwegian National Team. Krister Soergard said Thomas will be working with us on technique, especially freestyle. Krister said: "Thomas must have seen how our skiers struggled last year especially with freestyle technique." So much for the new Norwegian skating technique. Apropos of this: there has been some discussion about the Norwegian skating situation in "Ski Sport": it´s wondered how technique coaching could go wrong despite having two great models around years ago; apparently they were seen as too individual and the coaches wanted to develop a more "textbook" technique without really understanding thee free technique and how it´s still eveolving. (The biathletes had no such qualms about simply trying to imitate as best as they could.) http://www.skisport.no/pdffiles/friteknikk.pdf has a sequence of photographs and an explanation why Alsgaard was so great on hills _and_ after them - but I won´t mangle it by translating... The most recent issue has an article about the studies done to compare "padling" and "dobbeltdans" on different types of hills. Anders |
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Thanks! It's a long article, but it sure would be nice if someone in
the US translated it -- or at least the most relevant portions. Gene Anders Lustig wrote: Gene Goldenfeld wrote in message ... From the Jenex website: Marty Hall has got to love this: On Wednesday, April 14, Thomas Alsgaard signed a contract with the Norwegian National Team. Krister Soergard said Thomas will be working with us on technique, especially freestyle. Krister said: "Thomas must have seen how our skiers struggled last year especially with freestyle technique." So much for the new Norwegian skating technique. Apropos of this: there has been some discussion about the Norwegian skating situation in "Ski Sport": it´s wondered how technique coaching could go wrong despite having two great models around years ago; apparently they were seen as too individual and the coaches wanted to develop a more "textbook" technique without really understanding thee free technique and how it´s still eveolving. (The biathletes had no such qualms about simply trying to imitate as best as they could.) http://www.skisport.no/pdffiles/friteknikk.pdf has a sequence of photographs and an explanation why Alsgaard was so great on hills _and_ after them - but I won´t mangle it by translating... The most recent issue has an article about the studies done to compare "padling" and "dobbeltdans" on different types of hills. Anders |
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"Greg Fangel" skrev i melding news:c6zgc.161110$w54.1091317@attbi_s01... You're absolutely right, Peter about Alsgaard being a "do your own thing" skier. He admitted that when we saw him here in the Twin Cities last fall. In fact he said that the Norwegian coaches were quite upset with him, not following their regime. It will be interesting to see how he does as a coach. He will assist the head coach, his friend Krister Sørgaard from Kirkenes. -- Terje Henriksen Kirkenes |
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