To pole or not to pole

yunlong wrote:

snip yet more Terribly tedious tendentious twaddle

So, as is often asked of another denizen of this little cyberspot:

Why do you stay here and try to convince the cretins that you are correct?

Just go and "ski" (or whatever the hell your are doing -- expressing??)
as you wish.

btw, my five yo looks better on skis than that. At least she is not
flapping about looking like a wounded Mallard. Balance? Stability?
Grace? Are none of those part of the bull****-chi ski experience?

Sheesh -- at least the F2f posts talked about something. Yours, pure
terribly tedious tendentious twaddle.

Go back to the bridge, troll.


Dave M.

Aj 427 wrote:
READ THE REST OF THIS DISCUSSION GROUP. I'm 85, skiing since 6, 1926.
Sr NSPS//PSIA/Gold NASTAR, 80+ Club Member, etc. Have taught hundreds
to ski pole-less all over world...Europe. New Zealand, etc.

Just show'em how to stop-on-a-dime...on the inside edge of their
downhill ski (or board) and after a few runs they'll be surfing down
from side to side, leg to leg, on their inside edge.

After one day to get the hang of "hard-on-the- downhill ski" pole-less
turns on the inside edge and one day to practice they should be good for
the week.

We've done it with 7 year to 75 year old males and females very
successfully and have received their many thanks and subsequent
benefits.

Good luck, help others and have fun!
1/19/05

So Mr. Aj 427, I replied to your message within
minutes of your posting it. I haven't seen your
reply to my message. If you are for real and not
some troll out there trying to stir up a nest of
hornets, you might read and reply to messages
on this discussion group directed to you.

VtSkier

Mary Malmros wrote:
Aj 427 wrote:

Mary: Believe me, your adult students will be even more confused than
the kids.
You're just giving them two more things to worry about other than where
they're goin' to eat tonight Suggest you read more Group msgs.! 1/19


Suggest _I_ read more Group msgs? _You're_ the fenugi here, old feller,
no matter how many gallon pins you got from the PSIA. Suggest _you_
read what you're replying to.

'sokay, Mary,
I think this guy may be a troll. He's not yunlong because
he can write a readable English sentence, but I think he's
someone out there trying to stir us up further.

VtSkier

VtSkier wrote:

Mary Malmros wrote:

Aj 427 wrote:

Mary: Believe me, your adult students will be even more confused than
the kids. You're just giving them two more things to worry about
other than where
they're goin' to eat tonight Suggest you read more Group msgs.! 1/19



Suggest _I_ read more Group msgs? _You're_ the fenugi here, old
feller, no matter how many gallon pins you got from the PSIA. Suggest
_you_ read what you're replying to.

'sokay, Mary,
I think this guy may be a troll. He's not yunlong because
he can write a readable English sentence, but I think he's
someone out there trying to stir us up further.

I just wanna know how he can ski without no poles and all them NASTAR
gold medals pinned to his chest.

--
Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.

yunlong wrote:

Sven Golly wrote:

"yunlong" wrote in
roups.com:


then roll downhill "upside down" until your skis come out
the surface.

Good suggestion for anyone on a those flat-boarding 40°
slopes. Will help thin the herd.


Small talk boosts your ego, eh?


"So Mr. Johnson, how'd you injure yourself?"

"Err, my skis got stuck in the pow off High Rustler. So I remember

this

guy Yumlong suggests rolling downhill until they come to the surface.

I

tried and the next thing I remember was waking up in ER."


When you stop/get stuck on a "armpit deep powder," you are stuck,
without a 40 degree slope to roll, you probably can't even recover; now
try to find your just released ski, while each step the boot sinks you
even deeper.

Maybe you need to learn how to roll as well?

Yunlong, I have just viewed your videos. I am sorry, but this is some
sad skiing. This is not up for discussion. This is a fact.

I have skied the same run at Sierra. The top gets quite bumped out with
some good-sized bumps. If it were steep, it would be a good bump run,
too. As it is, its just a good warmup. FYI, this is the easiest way
down that face at Sierra. The middle runs under the chair are actually
lotsa fun and quite steep at times. And if you ski the trees in between
the runs, it is even better fun. This is not something particularly
difficult at Sierra, by the way; there are a few challenging lines (all
of which are off-piste), but mostly the hill is rather benign. Fun, but
moderate.

Yunlong, this is the type of skiing that others have alluded to. Not
the minor bump run I watched in your video. Excuse me if I seem
callous, but your student was quite bad on a run that would be a blue at
Alta or Jackson Hole or any other challenging ski resort. Real skiing
is so much easier and so much more fun than what I watched.

Please discontinue your unflagging devotion to your errored dogma. To
experience skiing in its upper levels is within your grasp. And to do
so is an sensation worth the pain of admitting that something you
believed in was wrong.

I wish you the strength it will take to get there. Good luck.

RAC

Sven Golly wrote:
Walt wrote in news:X9uHd.361$UN1.315
@news.itd.umich.edu:


Wouldn't it be all slush at that point?


Only after we get done making the pancakes for the bunnies.

Or donuts.
http://www.syberpunk.com/images/oolo.../meloncake.jpg


--
Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.

Sven Golly wrote:
"yunlong" wrote in
oups.com:


Yup, and those easterners just have no idea how "big" the
mountains/continental divide really is.


?????????????? I'm now wondering how well flatboarding will work on
National or Goat after a couple of freeze/thaw cycles.

You be an eastern boy? Flat skis on vertical ice mean picking
oneself from crown of spruce tree.

Ooooooh, flat relative to plumb/level, not flat relative to slope,
so sorry not realize rule change again.

Yup, I get that kind of question all the times on the chairlifts; it's
funny how people really see things.


Grown man waving arms in air while trying to ski make for comic relief.

Snowboarder after bong hit: "Dude, it's the flying nun on skis! F*** man.
I didn't know she was Chinese."

Har!!!

Sven Golly wrote:
(Aj 427) wrote in news:26459-41EED394-112@storefull-
3254.bay.webtv.net:


I'm afraid you Instructor friends still have a lot to learn. I taught
many to ski without poles since 1926 and I'm an 85 year old 80+
racer/skier/boarder, Sr NSPS/PSIA, NASTAR Gold, 80+ 15 yr Club Member.
Suggest you read some of the other discussion msgs. No debate just 55
years experience on
all over the world. Kind regards. 1/19


Lots wrong with this troll. Teaching since 1926, 85 now, which means you
started teaching skiing at age 6. Then you say 55 years of experience
which means you started skiing at age 30. OK, so which was it?? BTW,
there's an ex-lawyer in the Seattle area who comes up with similar lines
of reasoning. Are you related?

I noticed these anomalies too, but decided that it may
have been the fault of hurrying. My biggest worry with
these posts is not using poles in 1926. Should you have
opted for no poles back then you would have had a really
hard time getting UP hill. Then what do you do with your
poles on the way down?

FWIW, I've started many beginners without poles but I wouldn't think of
leaving them there. The better you get, the more things you can have (and
want) in your arsenal.

An earlier reply of mine said essentially the same thing.

VtSkier

VtSkier wrote:

Sven Golly wrote:

(Aj 427) wrote in news:26459-41EED394-112@storefull-
3254.bay.webtv.net:


I'm afraid you Instructor friends still have a lot to learn. I taught
many to ski without poles since 1926 and I'm an 85 year old 80+
racer/skier/boarder, Sr NSPS/PSIA, NASTAR Gold, 80+ 15 yr Club Member.
Suggest you read some of the other discussion msgs. No debate just 55
years experience on all over the world. Kind regards. 1/19



Lots wrong with this troll. Teaching since 1926, 85 now, which means
you started teaching skiing at age 6. Then you say 55 years of
experience which means you started skiing at age 30. OK, so which was
it?? BTW, there's an ex-lawyer in the Seattle area who comes up with
similar lines of reasoning. Are you related?


I noticed these anomalies too, but decided that it may
have been the fault of hurrying.

Yah, you sprain your fingers trying to type in all them credentials so
fast!

My biggest worry with
these posts is not using poles in 1926. Should you have
opted for no poles back then you would have had a really
hard time getting UP hill. Then what do you do with your
poles on the way down?

Chuck 'em into the woods and cut a new pair at the bottom, of course.

--
Mary Malmros
Some days you're the windshield, other days you're the bug.

Sven Golly wrote in
:

(Aj 427) wrote in news:26459-41EED394-112@storefull-
3254.bay.webtv.net:

....

The better you get, the more things you can
have (and want) in your arsenal.

Hmm... This has an astonishing ring of truth to it.

Both Yunlong and Mr. Aj 427 should have something stuffed in their
arsenals. I'm thinking ski poles....

dh