New Fischer Skate Boots Report

I tried out my new Fischer Centrix S9000 Skate Boots today for the
first time while rollerskiing 1 hour. Wow! The fit is great and I
didn't have any blisters. Salomon boots have killed my feet ever since
they went to the plastic ankle cuff with the hinge and rivet system.
As a result, I can't wear them. I've used Hartjes boots and Sportful
since then because they both use the Pilot system. I found them both
to be too constricting around the ankle. The Sportful is too
constricting on forward flex. I even use the Sportfuls without laces
or the top velcro straps. However, I'll ski pretty exclusively on the
Fischers now. I think all of the high ankle cuffs were more of a
gimmick. I don't think they are needed and in my case, they are a
hindrance. The Fischers were comfortable immediately. The only problem
I might have is they seem to fit a size C foot perfectly. I have a
right foot that is a size C and left foot that is a D. I might get the
left boot stretched a little. Although, the more I skied, the more
comfortable it became. The control was great but that probably has a
lot to do with the Pilot system.

Jay Tegeder
"Keep training, lycra never lies!" JT

Jay,

On Centrix classic boots:

I have used Solomon boots exclusively since their day #1 ... what was
that - 1982? But this year I am switching classic boots to Fischer
Centrix. I've been using them roller skiing (on dry days so I don't
immediately road-scum them!) ... and I've been impressed.

Last year I got a pair of Salomon Carbon classics. I used them maybe
10 times but gave up on them. The strap in back of the heel was always
digging into my heel. And I would constantly be stopping (2-3 times in
an hour workout) to adjust the strap to find a comfortable setting.
What the problem with the Salomon Carbon Classic is, in my opinion, is
that they are made for use with very thin socks. But I live in Alaska
.... where it is colder than Central Europe, where these boots are
likely designed for. With thicker socks, like Thorlo mountaineering
socks (my favs), the neoprene and the strap on the back of the carbon
classics work the socks down until there is a wad of sock below the
strap which causes bad fit. And extreme discomfort in my case.

I'm still using Salomon skate boots. But I've got a pair of Salomon
carbon classics, size USA 10, that are hardly used for sale !!!

TK

"Tim Kelley" wrote in message oups.com...
Jay,

On Centrix classic boots:

I have used Solomon boots exclusively since their day #1 ... what was
that - 1982? But this year I am switching classic boots to Fischer
Centrix. I've been using them roller skiing (on dry days so I don't
immediately road-scum them!) ... and I've been impressed.

Last year I got a pair of Salomon Carbon classics. I used them maybe
10 times but gave up on them. The strap in back of the heel was always
digging into my heel. And I would constantly be stopping (2-3 times in
an hour workout) to adjust the strap to find a comfortable setting.


I feel real sorry for you... Espcecially since you're in my age group
and kicked everyone at the last National Masters in the Twin Cities...
Who am I kidding, I'll be announcing the events this season at the
Masters if I do anything. Yeah, I feel your pain though. I've always
said if anything drives me away from this sport it will be my foot
problems. Sometimes my flat feet just kill me. That's why I'm banking
on the Centrix boots.

Jay Tegeder
"On the podium if the right people don't show up" JT
p.s. That would be you Tim...

WOW,

Thanks for the unsolicited advertisements guys!

These boots are pretty much my baby, so its cool to hear feedback,
especially positive!

Ive had a great last month doing rollerski demos around the east
mostly. The feedback has been awesome. Since this project is new to
Fischer as well as the ski world we were a small bit weary of what
people would think. I had two different groups of high school kids
(who dont own rollerskis) one group from maine and one from New York
test the Centrix boots on my skinny wheeled Marwes and they were
zipping around the parking lot and loving it.

Every college team that I have visited so far, I have met the kids for
a rollerski workout with almost the whole team asking questions and
taking time to test the boots. Its been a lot of fun, showing a
product that is definately unique and different.

A half a dozen skiers have approached me at clinics asking about
putting their orthodics in the rounded last boot. After testing, they
all thought taht they wouldnt need their orthodic in this boot. Im
sure some people will need custom orthodic work for the Centrix
system, but a lot of people wont.

very cool.

Any questions about the boots, please dont hesitate to ask!

Cheers!
"Tim Kelley" wrote in message oups.com...
Jay,

On Centrix classic boots:

I have used Solomon boots exclusively since their day #1 ... what was
that - 1982? But this year I am switching classic boots to Fischer
Centrix. I've been using them roller skiing (on dry days so I don't
immediately road-scum them!) ... and I've been impressed.

Last year I got a pair of Salomon Carbon classics. I used them maybe
10 times but gave up on them. The strap in back of the heel was always
digging into my heel. And I would constantly be stopping (2-3 times in
an hour workout) to adjust the strap to find a comfortable setting.
What the problem with the Salomon Carbon Classic is, in my opinion, is
that they are made for use with very thin socks. But I live in Alaska
... where it is colder than Central Europe, where these boots are
likely designed for. With thicker socks, like Thorlo mountaineering
socks (my favs), the neoprene and the strap on the back of the carbon
classics work the socks down until there is a wad of sock below the
strap which causes bad fit. And extreme discomfort in my case.

I'm still using Salomon skate boots. But I've got a pair of Salomon
carbon classics, size USA 10, that are hardly used for sale !!!

TK

"Jay Tegeder" wrote in message
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problems. Sometimes my flat feet just kill me. That's why I'm banking
on the Centrix boots.

Seen on a tombstone:
"She always said her feet were killing her.
I guess we should have listened"

(Eli Brown) wrote in message . com...
WOW,

Thanks for the unsolicited advertisements guys!

These boots are pretty much my baby, so its cool to hear feedback,
especially positive!


Eli,

Did Tim and I say enough to get free stuff from Fischer? If not, I'll
continue to get my Fischer skis and boots from Finn Sisu in Saint Paul
where I got the S9000 Skate Boots. Tom Novak picked out a pair of
Fischer RCS 610 Skate Skis for me at Finn Sisu. He wants me to bring
in my Skate Cut Plus skis to compare the flex. I always have Tom pick
my skis for me since he's picked out rockets for me over the years.
Greg Weier, Matt and Lindsey's father, is also an excellent ski
picker. He and Tom have the same philosophy (sp) on skis. Anyway, I
remember watching Eli ski as a high school kid. How many years ago was
that Eli? If you want your own pair of rockets, call Tom and Greg at
651-645-2443 or www.finnsisu.com

How do you like that? I got in two shameless plugs. One for Fischer,
one for Finn Sisu...


Jay Tegeder
"Keep training, lycra never lies!" JT

How does sizing compare with Salomon? Is a Salomon 7 UK the same as Fischer
40?
Fitzgerald

In regards to classic boots: I found I wear a 44 Salomon Carbon Skate
and a 44 Fischer Centrix. No difference.

"Fitzgerald" wrote in message news:0wzad.347361$mD.36759@attbi_s02...
How does sizing compare with Salomon? Is a Salomon 7 UK the same as Fischer
40?
Fitzgerald

In terms of classic boots: There is no difference for me. I fit a
Salomon Carbon Skate Euro 44 and a Fischer Centrix Euro 44.

TK

Finn-Sisu finally got their shipment of size 44s, and I got my new skate
boots. Jon Sanborn and I rollerskied the big Afton Coulee loop this
morning in the cold and wind, and I tried the Centrix for the first
time. Several things were apparent right off the bat:

They probably fit most feet pretty well. I have a narrow foot - my
Carbon classics fit me perfectly - so I had to put a small lift in the
heel to tighten up the pocket. I'll also play with different
combinations of socks and Superfeet insoles to fine tune the fit.
Bottom line is that they fit even me very well.

The neutral position in the boot is the knees forward, more angulated
position being advocated by the US coaches. You can't stand straight up
without feeling wierd.

I'm not really thrilled with the way the boots zip up over the top of
the lace knot. It seems like a stress/wear point. I wish boot makers
could make the zipper go off-center a bit as well.

The boots seem to hinge a little differently. They [skis] seem to snap
back more/differently than my old boots. I remember someone mentioning
that Fischer had redesigned the nose of the boot from the basic Pilot
planform.

The real difference comes when you start to ski. Within the first two
or three strokes, I knew these were different. I felt centered and on
top of the ski from the start. It's hard to explain, but it felt like
you slightly below the centerline of the wheels. That's probably an
overstatement, but the bottom line was that they felt very good.
Especially on a windy day, not having to fight balance issues on the ski
makes things a lot more enjoyable.

I know Eli would love to hear that I felt faster in all positions, but I
really didn't notice a difference. They felt more comfortable - which
may well improve times on the racecourse, but I didn't notice any real
change on the roller loop ( I was just as slow as ever). I'll be
interested to see if my opinion changes on a drier, calmer day.

Thanks again to Finn-Sisu for getting me fitted out correctly.

Marsh Jones
New Brighton, MN