required clothing

foot2foot wrote:
"Mary Malmros" wrote
foot2foot wrote:
"Mary Malmros" wrote
foot2foot wrote:

Waterproof breathable "coatings" are useless.

If you're talking about the DWR coating that's placed on Gore-tex
outerwear, you're wrong.

I'm not wrong.

The "expert advice" explains in detail the usefulness of the DWR coating.
So, I repeat: if you're calling the DWR coating useless, you're wrong.

Glad to see you're awake. The actual point of the discussion was, can a
coating alone do the same job that a waterproof breathable membrane can do,
coating added or not. The answer is no. You've missed the context and point
of the whole discussion.

The actual point of the discussion was to give some advice to a guy who
had skied Colorado in the spring and was going to Vermont in the winter
and was wondering if his shell w/ fleece layers would be enough.

That is, it was the point before you went off on your witchhunt tirade
about all the useless coatings foisted upon the public by lying cheating
purveyors of inferior gear that's worse than having nothing at all.

Feel better now that you've gotten that off your chest?

If you want to stay dry, you need a gore tex style membrane, not just a
coating the makers claim is water proof /breathable. It's not.

Gore Tex is nice, but not really necessary for inbounds unless you're
skiing in the rain or you fall down a lot. Rain much in Montana?

//Walt