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Old December 12th 05, 06:43 PM
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Default Bindings w/ adjustable heel cup

Which bindings on the market offer a heel cup with a good range of
adjustment, for balancing the boot for equal heel/toe overhang? My wife
and I both have Salomon bidnings with no such adjustment, you're forced to
turn the disks 90* to balance overhang thus severely limiting stance width
adjustment. Looking for something high-end that fits a women's size 6 boot
for my wife. I have my Catek FR's which are great for adjustment, they are
too big for her though.

Mike T



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Old December 12th 05, 11:12 PM
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Burton S bindings, but B's have limited adjustment.
Ride's used to be two parts, so they can be rotated heavily.
Seems if the stance is close to 30 degrees either direction, you
should be fine without rotation of the heelcup/hiback.

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Old December 12th 05, 11:31 PM
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Burton S bindings, but B's have limited adjustment.
Ride's used to be two parts, so they can be rotated heavily.
Seems if the stance is close to 30 degrees either direction, you
should be fine without rotation of the heelcup/hiback.


I'm not looking for highback rotation. I'm looking for a heel cup that can
be moved closer to or farther away from the center of the board, so that I
can use the multiple screw hols on the center disk to fine-tune the stance
width instead of fine-tuning the heel cup's position on the board.

My wife wears size W6 boots. She has the Salomon Posion (high-end women's
model) bindings in the smallest size available. However, her boots are
still at the bottom end of the size range, meaning that if the mounts them
up with the disk aligned for "lengthwise" adjustment rather than "widthwise"
adjustement, she gets overhang of 1.25" on heelside and underhang of .25" on
the toeside.

But her binding inserts are places such that she needs lengthwise adjustmnet
or she has to suffer too wide or narrow a stance width or at the very least
unwanted steback. In a 4x4 pattern, the granularity of stance is 3" if you
have no lengthwise adjustment, or 1.5" with no lengthwise adjustmnet if you
don't mind some setback (or set-forward).

The problem is solved if the heel cup itself can be slid towards or away
from the center disk. The Catek FR does this, but doesn't come small
enough for her. Her old K2 HB Pro clicker bindings also did this, but she
can no longer find boots for them.

We need a modern strap-binding that comes small enough for size W6 boots, is
decently stiff, has this feature, and has nice ergonomically shaped straps -
know of anything?




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Old December 13th 05, 12:47 AM
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"Mike T" wrote in message
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Burton S bindings, but B's have limited adjustment.
Ride's used to be two parts, so they can be rotated heavily.
Seems if the stance is close to 30 degrees either direction, you
should be fine without rotation of the heelcup/hiback.


I'm not looking for highback rotation. I'm looking for a heel cup that
can be moved closer to or farther away from the center of the board, so
that I can use the multiple screw hols on the center disk to fine-tune the
stance width instead of fine-tuning the heel cup's position on the board.

My wife wears size W6 boots. She has the Salomon Posion (high-end
women's model) bindings in the smallest size available. However, her
boots are still at the bottom end of the size range, meaning that if the
mounts them up with the disk aligned for "lengthwise" adjustment rather
than "widthwise" adjustement, she gets overhang of 1.25" on heelside and
underhang of .25" on the toeside.

But her binding inserts are places such that she needs lengthwise
adjustmnet or she has to suffer too wide or narrow a stance width or at
the very least unwanted steback. In a 4x4 pattern, the granularity of
stance is 3" if you have no lengthwise adjustment, or 1.5" with no
lengthwise adjustmnet if you don't mind some setback (or set-forward).

The problem is solved if the heel cup itself can be slid towards or away
from the center disk. The Catek FR does this, but doesn't come small
enough for her. Her old K2 HB Pro clicker bindings also did this, but
she can no longer find boots for them.

We need a modern strap-binding that comes small enough for size W6 boots,
is decently stiff, has this feature, and has nice ergonomically shaped
straps - know of anything?




I just picked up a set of Ride Spi bindings.....They do exactly what you
want. Although, I thought that they would "slide" to adjust......They
dont.. there are three sets of holes to choose from. I just got to try
them out tonight, and they are an excellent binding. I spent a good hour
setting them up to fit my boot, and I must say that they are definitely
comfortable.

I would guess that you could find the same features on a binding made for
women as well.


Good Luck.

monk


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Old December 13th 05, 05:16 AM
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I suspect her bindings are NOT size Small!
My girlfriend is also a 6, rides a ShannonDunn and has about 1/2" toe
overhand, maybe 1/4" rear binding overhang, on Ride cheapo size SMALL
bindings.
Any binding that's two piece can be made shorter or longer, so that
solves part of the problem.
Get her the right size binding to begin with.

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Old December 13th 05, 02:11 PM
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I suspect her bindings are NOT size Small!
Get her the right size binding to begin with.


They *are* S/M which is the smallest size available iun that women's model,
and according to Salomon, they *are* the right size for het boots.
According to me (and you) they are not.... they work out great on one of
her boards due to insert placement but not her new one.

LeeD, can you suggest a binding that has the feature I asked about???










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Old December 13th 05, 03:11 PM
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"Mike T" wrote in message
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Which bindings on the market offer a heel cup with a good range of
adjustment, for balancing the boot for equal heel/toe overhang? My wife
and I both have Salomon bidnings with no such adjustment, you're forced to
turn the disks 90* to balance overhang thus severely limiting stance width
adjustment. Looking for something high-end that fits a women's size 6
boot for my wife. I have my Catek FR's which are great for adjustment,
they are too big for her though.

Mike T



Mike,

The Burton bindings have great baseplate disks with that adjustability
heel/toe IF you have a board with Burtons 3 hole design. I just did that
exact adjustment yesterday on my new Burton bindings, however as you stated,
it will not work with the 4x4 pattern. I did find by rotating the baseplate
disks 180 you could fine tune stance width reasonably well, but you are
still limited to incremental stance width changes. BTW, this is my first
pair of Burton bindings but so far I like the adjustability (again, on a
Burton board - I have a Fish and a Triumph)

Good luck - Burtons web site shows the size small is for women's shoe size
4-6.

TG


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Old December 13th 05, 04:41 PM
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Burtons rec is actually correct! Or close to....
G/F has a pair of small Burtons, and just snug, especially widthwise,
with her size 6's.
But RideLX has gots to be 7 oz lighter EACH, and has more
adjustments, lower stance for pow, stiffer highbacks, straps that stay
in place after a long hike or ride up the chair.
Burton bindings suck because you lose out on adjustment as noted by
MikeT, and the straps flop all over the place after a prolonged hike to
the top of a powder, steep run.
Good bindings.... Light weight....
Straps that release with one swipe....
Obviouly good fit.....
Lots of adjustment in case you light to
experiment...
Not too expensive...but you could by last
year's or cheapos...
Lighter riders don't need carbon
highbacks...
Shorter riders HATE tall highbacks....
Solid straps that stay in place....
Don't matter which company....
...and you can get Burton 4D discs for
free if you just ask the
shop that sold the bindings to you....

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Old December 13th 05, 05:00 PM
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Burtons rec is actually correct! Or close to....
But RideLX has gots to be 7 oz lighter EACH, and has more
adjustments, lower stance for pow, stiffer highbacks, straps that stay
in place after a long hike or ride up the chair.


Last time I looked at Burtons, only the highback was a separate piece, not
the heel cup, so if you move the highback forward to balance the binding
heel/toe, you could still get heel-cup drag. Those were '03 Missions
(their size small is a much better fit than Salomon's women's bidning, I
might add...) - have things changed?


We'll check out the Rides though!



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Old December 13th 05, 06:28 PM
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Exactly, that's why I didn't recommend Burtons even thos I used
CFX's, and g/f has size S's on her spare board.
Burton's highback design is stupid and fragile, with very little
adjustability.
Much more adjustment in the Rides.
I'm still using my Burtons thos. The Q/R is quick with one swipe,
and I got them comp.

 




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