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Is June Mt. Dead?
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:59:01 -0400, VtSkier
wrote this crap: Really? Iceland and Greenland were not far? dopeslap Iceland and Greenland were indeed far from Norway, yet... the inhabitants of those far places DID NOT go far from their homes. Then how did they get there? I saw the houses they built. You need trees. When they cut down the trees and none grew back they abandoned the colony. You need trees for rafters, these can be imported or scavenged from the beach. If there's no trees growing and the nearest trees are hundreds of miles across the ocean how do you think they are going to wash up on the beach? And you said they were not seafaring, so how could they import them? Your logic is flawed. Are there still people in Ireland for instance? There are not enough trees to supply fuel for cooking and heating in Ireland and there hasn't been for at least a thousand years. Yet the people are still there, happily burning peat. Peat is still used in Scotland but trees are returning there enough so that there is now a lumber industry. Peat in Scotland is what makes your Scotch taste so good. There is no peat in Greenland. Lack of trees is not a good reason to abandon your home. The Greenlanders did not abandon their homes for this reason. They did, however, abandon their homes because of climate change. The whole point I'm trying to make is that it was warmer in Greenland when they were there. You are trying to tell me that they had climate change when it got colder. Now you're trying to tell me climate change is making it warmer? Your logic makes no sense. BTW, when I woke up this morning it was 60 degrees. 60 degrees in the middle of August. I was actually thinking of turning on the furnace but I didn't want to release the CO2 into the air. Frequently when I get up in the summer it's 50 degrees or less. In August? When I was at Camp Ethan Allen in August it was in the 90s. However, when I was in Fort Lewis outside Seattle it once got into the 20s in August. But Seattle is not Burlington. Global warming is a stupid myth. I've just experienced the coldest July in Michigan's history, and the coldest August. Yet the media is telling me it's been the warmest. There's an ancient Chinese proverb that I once made up. It goes a little something like this, "Don't **** on my boots and tell me it's raining." Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares. |
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Is June Mt. Dead?
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 14:25:58 -0400, VtSkier
wrote this crap: No it's not and when you snip something please have the courtesy to say that you've done so. Courtesy to you? Won't happen. I'm the senior military official for this newsgroup. Not you. Vote for Romney-Ryan. repeal the nightmares. |
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Is June Mt. Dead?
Wishful-hope rumor floating around (from a friend of a friend ^n of
Dave McCoy's grandson) that Dave himself will take some money out of the bank and sub-lease June Mt, perhaps as soon as this season. So those with the bumper stickers reading "What would Dave do?" may be about to find out. |
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Is June Mt. Dead?
On Saturday, August 11, 2012 8:04:52 AM UTC-6, (unknown) wrote:
I've been to France. You won't like it. Besides, a beach is a beach. Unless there's skinny girls playing volleyball there's nothing new. I've been to France too. Even took a train one day out to Cherbourg, just looked around a bit and back to Paris. A beach IS a beach. I love the beach. But Omaha etc. will hold something special for me to see and remember. And for my wife who's family was direct victims of occupation. Their liberation days are quite the big celebrations in those countries. And to be there on the anniversary of Dday will be special to me. If you think about it, it would be for you too. |
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Is June Mt. Dead?
On Aug 11, 9:16*pm, comadrejo wrote:
On 2012-08-12 00:50:47 +0000, Richard Henry said: Wishful-hope rumor floating around (from a friend of a friend ^n of Dave McCoy's grandson) that Dave himself will take some money out of the bank and sub-lease June Mt, perhaps as soon as this season. *So those with the bumper stickers reading "What would Dave do?" may be about to find out. Beware that small towns tend to get these type of rumors, with no rhyme or reason. * *MMSA is not going charge a miminal price to sub lease or help with the permit process. *They are going to demand $14 million or more dollars to let anyone operate June Mountain. *It isn't leasing the mountain but the equipment, facilities, payment of insurance premiums, payment to workers' health insurance/HMO provider, etc. etc. * They have to do this with the high risk that the first year of operation they could lose around tenth or so of their investments, (a million dollar loss on $14 million or more on their investment) * There isn't going to be a white knight on shining armour to swoop down to save June Mountain. *Any serious prospective owner is going to do some radical changes to June Mountain to make it profitable, number one to keep overhead down and raise season passes and lift ticket prices. *It won't be pretty. *A serious buyer probably has a background in commercial real estate. The June Mt manager said at one oof the meetings that the book value of the MMSA property on June Mt was about $14 million. A 5% ROI on that would be $700K, with the added benefit to MMSA that they would not be carrying any losses forward to next year, so I think they could get it for a lot less. I also think the Forest service and Mono County would be very helpful in any permit or licensing issues. Dave McCoy has enough money in the bank that he could treat the whole thing as his hobby, but I'm not holding my breath waiting on this one. |
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Is June Mt. Dead?
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:10:44 -0700 (PDT), pigo
wrote this crap: On Saturday, August 11, 2012 8:04:52 AM UTC-6, (unknown) wrote: I've been to France. You won't like it. Besides, a beach is a beach. Unless there's skinny girls playing volleyball there's nothing new. I've been to France too. Even took a train one day out to Cherbourg, just looked around a bit and back to Paris. A beach IS a beach. I love the beach. But Omaha etc. will hold something special for me to see and remember. And for my wife who's family was direct victims of occupation. Their liberation days are quite the big celebrations in those countries. And to be there on the anniversary of Dday will be special to me. If you think about it, it would be for you too. Just another day for me. I'll be at the yacht club. And if I want to see a beach I'll just step outside the bar and sit on the patio. Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares. |
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Is June Mt. Dead?
On Saturday, August 11, 2012 5:50:47 PM UTC-7, Richard Henry wrote:
Wishful-hope rumor floating around (from a friend of a friend ^n of Dave McCoy's grandson) that Dave himself will take some money out of the bank and sub-lease June Mt, perhaps as soon as this season. So those with the bumper stickers reading "What would Dave do?" may be about to find out. Wishful, hopeful rumor: Dickless Richard Henry will provide the contact info of the SPD officer he claimed was going to jail me for life. |
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Is June Mt. Dead?
On Saturday, August 11, 2012 8:10:44 PM UTC-7, pigo wrote:
On Saturday, August 11, 2012 8:04:52 AM UTC-6, (unknown) wrote: I've been to France. You won't like it. Besides, a beach is a beach. Unless there's skinny girls playing volleyball there's nothing new. I've been to France too. Even took a train one day out to Cherbourg, just looked around a bit and back to Paris. A beach IS a beach. I love the beach. But Omaha etc. will hold something special for me to see and remember. And for my wife who's family was direct victims of occupation. Their liberation days are quite the big celebrations in those countries. And to be there on the anniversary of Dday will be special to me. If you think about it, it would be for you too. And think of all the Canadians you can **** off!!!!!!!! You know what we be very special to me? Dickless Bob Thompson spewing his **** in person. |
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Is June Mt. Dead?
On 13/08/2012 08:08, The Real Bev wrote:
On 08/09/2012 08:11 AM, comadrejo wrote: On 2012-08-09 12:48:50 +0000, VtSkier said: I'm of the opinion that there is indeed Global Warming. I am not convinced that the MAJOR cause is humans. There is a huge amount of evidence that global warming is anthropogenic global warming (AGW) (ie man made) http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/climate-ch...sensus-on.html A lot of pdf files, not likely to be actual data sets.... Kenji Watts is a member of UCS: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/10/07/friday-funny-the-newest-member-of-the-union-of-concerned-scientists/ |
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Is June Mt. Dead?
On 8/13/2012 4:53 AM, BrritSki wrote:
On 13/08/2012 08:08, The Real Bev wrote: On 08/09/2012 08:11 AM, comadrejo wrote: On 2012-08-09 12:48:50 +0000, VtSkier said: I'm of the opinion that there is indeed Global Warming. I am not convinced that the MAJOR cause is humans. There is a huge amount of evidence that global warming is anthropogenic global warming (AGW) (ie man made) http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/climate-ch...sensus-on.html A lot of pdf files, not likely to be actual data sets.... Kenji Watts is a member of UCS: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/10/07/friday-funny-the-newest-member-of-the-union-of-concerned-scientists/ Very clever indeed. While I believe that the global climate IS getting warmer at the moment AND that there is a great deal of evidence that the current warming is anthropogenic, I also believe that the jury is still out on ultimate cause. I've written that the climate has been just as warm (or possibly warmer) in historical pre-industrial times. I have also written that the climate was MUCH colder following that warmer period. These warm/cold periods were quite short on a geological scale so we should be able, within a few years, to determine what is REALLY causing the present day warming trend. I also believe that the pollution, including so-called 'greenhouse gasses' are POSITIVELY a great threat to our overall environment and that we must stop their release into the environment to safeguard the conditions in which we live. My problem with the current belief of the CAUSE of global warming is the fact that within a few years the trend could reverse itself without any human agency changing anything and EVERYBODY, not just sceptics, will say that GW was a big hoax and will return to 'business as usual' with little or no restraint and THAT will be a BIG mistake. Global warming is a fact. The cause as yet not fully understood. Pollution of our environment is a fact and must stop. Cancer rates and other environmental disease should be enough evidence to stop pollution without the bandwagon of Global Warming. |
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