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Old July 30th 05, 04:54 AM
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Sam Seiber wrote:
About what year was that? Oh, and in my book, it isn't an OFFICIAL
opening day
if you don't STAY open until the end of the season. If Berthoud closed
a few
days after cuz the snow melted, then it was a STUNT, not an opening day.


Sam "Thems is my rulz" Seiber


It was 1961. There was a major blizzard that Labor Day weekend. The
leaves were still on the trees in Denver, and it brought the entire city
to a virtual stand still as limbs fell, disrupting power and making
streets impassable.

I don't know if Berthound stayed open afterward or not.

C.
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Old July 30th 05, 04:43 PM
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Actually, it went like this.

Ralston (the Purina Dog Chow folks) owned Keystone and A-Basin. They
also bought Breckenridge from Victoria Corp (a Japanese sporting goods
company) who bought it from Aspen.

When Ralston wanted to get back to it's main business (animal chow)
they wanted to sell their resort holdings and Vail wanted to buy but
then there could be monoply problems so they were forced to divest
A-Basin after the sale. There was a marketing agreement between them
for a set number of years to allow the use of Breck/Keystone passes at
A-Basin. I think it was for ten years but I'm not sure. Right now,
Vail Resorts is trying to ween A-Basin from it's corperate
infrastructure. Things like phones, computer networks, marketing etc.
I wouldn't be supprised to see A-Basin on it's own within the next few
years and passes only good at Keystone and Breck.

snoig

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Old August 1st 05, 08:13 PM
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Jack Nixon wrote:
The Labor Day opening at Berthoud was in the early to mid 1960's. I remember it
because the Rocky Mountain News featured a front page picture of my then boss
enjoying the snow. Since we ran a ski shop in Denver it was an excellent free ad. Did
Berthoud remain open for the season? I have no idea, I just remember the day. Do I
lose points if it was a stunt? Ask the Colorado Skier to check the archives.



It isn't so much points you loose. You are not the ski area. From time
to time
someplace gets a bunch of snow in September, open their ski area, and
claim
dibs on being first to open. My rule is they have to stay open for that
date
to count. If you went skiing Labor day at Berthoud, you get BONUS
points for
getting out so early. I know sometime in the 80's Berthoud opened very
early
October. I ran into the reporter doing the writeup for the Rocky Mtn
News, and
got my name and a few of my quotes in the paper (ie. "any skiing is
infinately
better than no skiing at all"). If I recall that date, just the east
side was
open, and it would have taken less time just to walk up to the top than
wait
in line for the T-bar.

All I know is all this record breaking heat in Denver is making my wait
for my
Beloved Loveland seem a bit longer. But swapping these old ski tales
helps
a bit.

Sam "Should be under the 12 week mark for lift powered turns" Seiber
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Old August 1st 05, 08:16 PM
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CParker wrote:
It was 1961. There was a major blizzard that Labor Day weekend. The
leaves were still on the trees in Denver, and it brought the entire city
to a virtual stand still as limbs fell, disrupting power and making
streets impassable.

I don't know if Berthound stayed open afterward or not.

C.


Hmm, I would have been about 4.75 years old. I wasn't driving
or riding a bike around back then, so I guess that is why I
don't remember it. Didn't start skiing 'till I was 22 years
old. The story above does trigger a memory of how about 30
years later the same thing happened to Denver, and a Mayor
lost his job to Fred Pena cuz Denver streets were
impassable.

Sam "OK, I will just take a rain storm for now" Seiber
 




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