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Old February 23rd 06, 05:02 PM
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I don't know the deffinition for back country skiing. Would someone please
tell me what it is?

Thanks

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Old February 23rd 06, 05:32 PM
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I don't know the deffinition for back country skiing. Would someone please
tell me what it is?


If it's not in the English dictionary, there is no definition. Usage
is loose among all who invoke it. Why would you even need a defnition?

JJS

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Old February 23rd 06, 07:54 PM
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News wrote:
I don't know the deffinition for back country skiing. Would someone please
tell me what it is?


If you're using your own effort to get up the hills and you're
not skiing on a prepared track, that's backcountry skiing. Covers
everything from a short jaunt in your back yard to skiing down
Everest.

_ Booker C. Bense


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Old February 28th 06, 08:36 PM
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"Booker C. Bense"
bbense+rec.skiing.backcountry.Feb.23.06@telemark. slac.stanford.edu wrote
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In article KUlLf.3569$Cp4.1764@edtnps90,
News wrote:
I don't know the deffinition for back country skiing. Would someone please
tell me what it is?


If you're using your own effort to get up the hills and you're
not skiing on a prepared track, that's backcountry skiing. Covers
everything from a short jaunt in your back yard to skiing down
Everest.

_ Booker C. Bense


Thanks that is what I thought but I was not sure



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Old March 1st 06, 08:04 AM
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[ Booker C. Bense ]

If you're using your own effort to get up the hills and you're
not skiing on a prepared track, that's backcountry skiing. Covers
everything from a short jaunt in your back yard to skiing down
Everest.


I more or less agree, but what do you call xc skiing on groomed tracks
in the backcountry? Around here we have vast networks of (different
states of) groomed tracks streching far into the woods and the
mountains. There are marked routes deep in the mountains run regularly
with snowmobiles but without set tracks -- not snowmobile routes, we
don't have those outside of the far North as recreational snowmobiling
is banned, they are run with snowmobiles to pack the snow and mark the
route for skiers. Does it turn from deep backcountry in summer to not
backcountry in winter because a groomed track was laid down?


Martin
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Old March 1st 06, 09:02 AM
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Booker C. Bense
If you're using your own effort to get up the hills and you're
not skiing on a prepared track, that's backcountry skiing. Covers
everything from a short jaunt in your back yard to skiing down
Everest.


Martin Thornquist
I more or less agree,


I think I'd agree completely with Booker here.

but what do you call xc skiing on groomed tracks in the
backcountry?


Track skiing. Modern groomed tracks are a far cry from natural
conditions. Modern tiny XC racing gear excels on these, but,
depending on the snow conditions, going off the track with
such gear is hopeless.

Perhaps a bit like the difference between road cycling and
mountain biking. Except bigger.

Speaking of cycling, a prepared XC-skiing track (skating style) is
great for cycling. In summer too, btw.
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Old March 1st 06, 10:00 AM
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Martin Thornquist
but what do you call xc skiing on groomed tracks in the
backcountry?


Track skiing. Modern groomed tracks are a far cry from natural
conditions. Modern tiny XC racing gear excels on these, but,
depending on the snow conditions, going off the track with
such gear is hopeless.


My main point was in the part you snipped, that there is a continuum
from perfectly groomed tracks which I wouldn't call "backcountry" via
several categories down to marked routes only done once in a while
with snowmobile to maintain marking and pack the snow somewhat. What
do you call backcountry and what not?

Perhaps a bit like the difference between road cycling and
mountain biking. Except bigger.


This is pretty similar, there's a wide selection of paved roads, good
gravel roads, not so good gravel roads, good paths, smaller paths.
I've biked on all of them (well, dragged the bike along the smallest
paths), and I'm not sure where you would draw the lines. Some people
use cyclocross (beefed-up road racers) for path biking these days...

Speaking of cycling, a prepared XC-skiing track (skating style) is
great for cycling. In summer too, btw.


Around here they can be great for a while (in summer), and then
suddenly you're in the middle of a swamp with mud up to the knees. :-)


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Old March 1st 06, 06:05 PM
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In article ,
Martin Thornquist wrote:
but what do you call xc skiing on groomed tracks in the
backcountry?


[ *@*.* ]
Track skiing. Modern groomed tracks are a far cry from natural


Track skiing.
Wow, Marcus and I agree on something! 8^)

My main point was in the part you snipped, that there is a continuum
from perfectly groomed tracks which I wouldn't call "backcountry" via
several categories down to marked routes only done once in a while
with snowmobile to maintain marking and pack the snow somewhat. What
do you call backcountry and what not?


Look I see a spectrum, too, but unless we have a specific reason
for making a distinction, I don't see a point except to try to make a
definition to the subdirectories for this storage to beat people into
a rut of this group and not rsa, rsn, etc.

What are you looking for? That will determine a definition.
You will find it circular and recursive.

Skiing lacking certain knowledge is merely deficient skiing.

Perhaps a bit like the difference between road cycling and
mountain biking. Except bigger.


This is pretty similar, there's a wide selection of paved roads, good
gravel roads, not so good gravel roads, good paths, smaller paths.
I've biked on all of them (well, dragged the bike along the smallest
paths), and I'm not sure where you would draw the lines. Some people
use cyclocross (beefed-up road racers) for path biking these days...


Oh kinda. Tracks get placed for various reasons.
A big part is the snow gets chopped up enough the beginners.
Racing seeks consistency. etc.

Speaking of cycling, a prepared XC-skiing track (skating style) is
great for cycling. In summer too, btw.


Around here they can be great for a while (in summer), and then
suddenly you're in the middle of a swamp with mud up to the knees. :-)


Sounds like Alaska.
The snow machiners tend to like them to skier consernation some times.

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Old March 7th 06, 08:31 AM
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Martin Thornquist wrote:

My main point was in the part you snipped, that there is a continuum
from perfectly groomed tracks which I wouldn't call "backcountry" via
several categories down to marked routes only done once in a while
with snowmobile to maintain marking and pack the snow somewhat. What
do you call backcountry and what not?


Here is one of of the latter flavour,
http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/no2005-1.jpg

This is, allegedly, a marked trail (or so we were led to believe!)
between 2 DNT huts. Didn't seem much like track skiing to us... ;-)

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Old March 1st 06, 06:07 PM
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In article ,
Martin Thornquist wrote:
in the backcountry? Around here we have vast networks of (different
states of) groomed tracks streching far into the woods and the
mountains.
with snowmobiles but without set tracks -- not snowmobile routes, we


Who pays for the gas?


don't have those outside of the far North as recreational snowmobiling
is banned, they are run with snowmobiles to pack the snow and mark the
route for skiers. Does it turn from deep backcountry in summer to not
backcountry in winter because a groomed track was laid down?


How far from a road (infrastructure)?
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