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?backcountry binding for beginners
I'm looking for information on bindings for beginner back country skiers.
I've been recommended both 3 pin bindings and NNNBC. What is the difference and what is most suitable for with some downhill experience skiing off groomed trails? I've read plenty of descriptions on the web but few have accompanying photos. Don't want to hire the wrong things - the hire shops have only added to my confusion so far. Also, what is the difference between 'alpine skiing' and 'backcountry'? Cheers, Marshall. |
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On the other hand, try something different than what you're accustomed to,
i.e. rent some tele skis. If you're renting you can try a few different things and make up your own mind. A good reason to try tele skiing is that alpine skiing bores you, so you won't want to use AT, which is too much like alpine skiing. It's nice to learn new things, to remember what it's like to fall down, to feel some new sensations in familiar places. 3-pins don't work too well if you're mostly interested in making turns skiing downhill. You'll want something with cables if you plan to play going downhill. There are plenty of options. If you really just want to stroll around in the woods, go for lightweight gear; if you want to ski to some good places to make turns, beef things up a bit. If you're not having fun, keep doing it: nothing good comes too easily . . . |
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sure, why not? If even Republicans can claim there's room for everyone, so
can skiing. |
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In article , M. Wilkinson wrote: I'm looking for information on bindings for beginner back country skiers. I've been recommended both 3 pin bindings and NNNBC. What is the difference and what is most suitable for with some downhill experience skiing off groomed trails? I've read plenty of descriptions on the web but few have accompanying photos. Don't want to hire the wrong things - the hire shops have only added to my confusion so far. _ The place to start first is figure out what boots you want to use. Beefy plastic, medium plastic/leather or lightweight fabric plastic. Once you get the boots, then try the bindings that make the most sense for those boots. Figure out whether you want to focus on making turns or covering ground. All BC skiing gear is a compromise in some way or another, the trick is figuring out what compromise works best for you. Also, what is the difference between 'alpine skiing' and 'backcountry'? _ Alping skiing generally meand riding up the lift and skiing down. Backcountry means you climb up and ski down. _ There are sort of 3 categories of gear. Backcountry This generally means lighter weight gear on which the focus is covering ground rather than making turns. The skis are beefy enough to survive off trail and have metal edges, however descending steep terrain on this gear requires a lot of skill. You can do either parallel or telemark turns on this gear, however soft boots require a different turning technique that many people coming from a stiff boot alpine background find difficult. Binding are either 3pin or NNN/BC or Salomn's version of NNN/BC. The gear is generally not suitable for resort skiing(i.e. lift-served). Telemarking While this gear is named for the turn, it does not require that you telemark to use it. Boots are generally heavy plastic, bindings are cable and skis heavy. Many resort skiers now use telemark gear. Alpine Touring or AT. This gear is the most similar to what resort skiers are used to. Basically, it's a slightly lighter boot, ski and binding that has a heel lift mode so you can climb up before you ski down. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQP59+mTWTAjn5N/lAQFFowP/SiygzNXZAD5bttAAZlNlkpc7AXflngq+ /cRh5gVTPCA7k9/VYJzTzZ39e0jX6xd96ZixZKUb3YcfVOmI2Fe6dj3kTXOVPTYB ilgm6ZN3ZfLVUxTksMKzjJMpKgIXqNUPYscRrHlq6tySfiyNsb eLzlTuOLCaYGtO zHzMK24c6S0= =/WCC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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"M. Wilkinson" wrote:
I'm looking for information on bindings for beginner back country skiers. I've been recommended both 3 pin bindings and NNNBC. What is the difference and what is most suitable for with some downhill experience skiing off groomed trails? I've read plenty of descriptions on the web but few have accompanying photos. Don't want to hire the wrong things - the hire shops have only added to my confusion so far. Here is my take on the binding choices. The best binding is very highly tied to what you mean by "backcountry" and "some downhill". http://home.comcast.net/~pinnah/Dirt...-bindings.html Also, what is the difference between 'alpine skiing' and 'backcountry'? Alpine almost always means with the heel locked down. Backcountry is so overused and ambiguous that it is nearly meaningless. The only definition worth paying attention to, imo, is that used by marketing departments. More on this he http://home.comcast.net/~pinnah/Dirt...ckcountry.html -- Dave ============================================== "It is impossible, or not easy, to do noble acts without the proper equipment." Aristotle, Politics, 1323a-b, trans Jowett ============================================== |
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NNNBC can be described as the Subaru of backcountry skiing - light, strong,
reliable, nimble, good flex. I used this system, inc for some intermediate tele-turning, for ten years. Partic. good for touring. If you're serious about telemarking, then go for plastic boots and cable or plate bindings. Good for edge control but pretty ordinary for kick and glide! Ern "pinnah" wrote in message ... "M. Wilkinson" wrote: I'm looking for information on bindings for beginner back country skiers. I've been recommended both 3 pin bindings and NNNBC. What is the difference and what is most suitable for with some downhill experience skiing off groomed trails? I've read plenty of descriptions on the web but few have accompanying photos. Don't want to hire the wrong things - the hire shops have only added to my confusion so far. Here is my take on the binding choices. The best binding is very highly tied to what you mean by "backcountry" and "some downhill". http://home.comcast.net/~pinnah/Dirt...-bindings.html Also, what is the difference between 'alpine skiing' and 'backcountry'? Alpine almost always means with the heel locked down. Backcountry is so overused and ambiguous that it is nearly meaningless. The only definition worth paying attention to, imo, is that used by marketing departments. More on this he http://home.comcast.net/~pinnah/Dirt...ckcountry.html -- Dave ============================================== "It is impossible, or not easy, to do noble acts without the proper equipment." Aristotle, Politics, 1323a-b, trans Jowett ============================================== |
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_ The place to start first is figure out what boots you want to use. Beefy plastic, medium plastic/leather or lightweight fabric plastic. Yeah, my first forays into backcountry skiing (with a strong alpine skiing background) involved a borrowed pair of skis with old silveretta bindings, and my leather La Sportiva Makalus. Went OK, but I don't recomend it. |
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