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Old December 22nd 06, 01:10 PM posted to rec.skiing.snowboard
56fish
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Default Riding advice - bumps

Read Bob F's post heel drag.....any folks have advice on attacking
the bumps?

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Old December 22nd 06, 02:54 PM posted to rec.skiing.snowboard
Neil Gendzwill
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Default Riding advice - bumps

56fish wrote:
Read Bob F's post heel drag.....any folks have advice on attacking
the bumps?


Here's a thread from nearly 8 years ago that had some advice from me and
others:

http://tinyurl.com/ucjpe

Neil
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Old December 22nd 06, 04:37 PM posted to rec.skiing.snowboard
Mike M. Miskulin
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"56fish" wrote in
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Read Bob F's post heel drag.....any folks have advice on

attacking the bumps?

I hardly pretend to be good at moguls but would add -


1) maintain your speed - too slow = fall down

2) avoid runs with skiiers - they are unpredictable
stop every 4th bump and generally will get in your way
forcing you to slow down (bad per #1) or stop (annoying
and bad).

3) what works on soft snow probably will not work on hard
pack. You can get away with a lot of back foot steering
in spring snow / soft bumps that just does not cut it
midseason or where the temps are well below freezing for
many weks.

4) ride on the edges of the run - this usually gives you
a chance to bail out on fairly level terrain and also
the bumps on the edges are almost always easier to
navigate.




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Old December 22nd 06, 05:35 PM posted to rec.skiing.snowboard
Neil Gendzwill
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Mike M. Miskulin wrote:

1) maintain your speed - too slow = fall down


I would more say the fall-line is your friend. Slow is fine.
Traversing is bad.

2) avoid runs with skiiers - they are unpredictable
stop every 4th bump and generally will get in your way
forcing you to slow down (bad per #1) or stop (annoying
and bad).


Eh? Just evaluate who's on the slope, you can tell right away who's
good in the bumps and who's not, pick your line to avoid the kooks.
Most snowboarders can't ride the bumps worth a damn.


3) what works on soft snow probably will not work on hard
pack. You can get away with a lot of back foot steering
in spring snow / soft bumps that just does not cut it
midseason or where the temps are well below freezing for
many weks.


Spring or soft snow is forgiving in the bumps, lets you absorb shock and
keeps your speed in check. If you normally steer with your back foot,
you're not good enough to be in bumps of any size. Sorry. If you want
to prepare for bumps, practice very short, set-the-edge-and-release,
style turns on a steep groomed pitch.

4) ride on the edges of the run - this usually gives you
a chance to bail out on fairly level terrain and also
the bumps on the edges are almost always easier to
navigate.


That's just survival technique. Does the OP want to learn how to ride
the bumps, or does he want to merely get past them to hit the next
groomer? If he wants to learn to ride, take it down the middle.

Neil
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Old December 23rd 06, 03:38 AM posted to rec.skiing.snowboard
Mike M. Miskulin
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Default Riding advice - bumps

Neil Gendzwill wrote in :


Eh? Just evaluate who's on the slope, you can tell right away who's
good in the bumps and who's not, pick your line to avoid the kooks.
Most snowboarders can't ride the bumps worth a damn.


nor can most skiiers but at least most boarders keep moving.

groomer? If he wants to learn to ride, take it down the middle.


would you send someone down a steep black diamond before they
can do a blue?

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Old December 23rd 06, 04:25 PM posted to rec.skiing.snowboard
Neil Gendzwill
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Default Riding advice - bumps


"Mike M. Miskulin" wrote
Neil Gendzwill wrote

Most snowboarders can't ride the bumps worth a damn.


nor can most skiiers but at least most boarders keep moving.


Way more skiers can handle bumps than snowboarders. 99% of snowboarders
suck huge in bumps, go into survival mode and wreck them by skidding down on
their heel edge.

My point is, if you're just learning, pick a clear path.

groomer? If he wants to learn to ride, take it down the middle.


would you send someone down a steep black diamond before they
can do a blue?


No, but I'd rather send them down the middle of a blue than the edges of the
black. If you're in the middle, you've got some options for lines. You
don't have any trees to worry about.

Neil


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Old December 25th 06, 02:41 AM posted to rec.skiing.snowboard
Bob F
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Default Riding advice - bumps


"56fish" wrote in message
ps.com...
Read Bob F's post heel drag.....any folks have advice on attacking
the bumps?


Practice very tight linked turns. I use a crossunder technique. Find
a slope that builds up bumps during the day after grooming. Follow
the growth during the day. In the morning they are small and easy.
Get good at linking turns through them, then grow with them. Find
someone who is good to lead you through them. Finding a good line
is important.

Bob


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Old January 3rd 07, 12:01 PM posted to rec.skiing.snowboard
Jeremy
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Default Riding advice - bumps

56fish wrote:
Read Bob F's post heel drag.....any folks have advice on attacking
the bumps?


Jump turns. The board doesn't need to leave the ground, but my feeling is
that exaggerated weighting and unweighting is a significant help.
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Old January 6th 07, 01:36 PM posted to rec.skiing.snowboard
56fish
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Default Riding advice - bumps


Jeremy wrote:

Jump turns. The board doesn't need to leave the ground, but my feeling is
that exaggerated weighting and unweighting is a significant help.


Thanks dude; used your advice a couple days ago on some tall-weird
shaped-deep troughed-frozen ones...little bit of work but, the only way
I could handle them.

Thanks to all w/ suggestions.

 




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