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Paging Ace - you are now permitted to smile
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:50:23 -0000, in
, "Mike" wrote: "Ace" wrote in message .. . should definitely consider flying into Basel or Zurich and perhaps sking some of the smaller, or at least less-known, Swiss resorts, e.g. (copied from a post by 'Johannes' from several years ago) snip Ace, thanks for posting this list - I've been thinking of doing a multi resort 2 weeker when our kids don't want to ski with us and don't have to go at school hols - we been to a few of them, but the smaller resorts look worth checking out. Presumably possible to turn up (we'd drive from UK) and book a few days or even book ahead if well organised (+ outside main busy times)? In my experience, yes. But clearly if you're insistent on 4* accomodation or will only stay on the centre of a ski village you may find it more difficult :-) Perhaps should start a new thread - any similar list for Austria? Not from me, but I'd be interested if someone else would like to put one together. Basically picturesque resorts, with enough skiing for a day or two, then move on... Mike Yupp. Or, from my perspective, perfect places to drive to for the weekend. |
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In communiqué 1icvsof.1j3iwu81ownitcN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo. co.uk,
The Older Gentleman cast forth these pearls of wisdom The skis themselves were only about 7 years old, but not carvers and 195mm long. The Atomics (about 178mm, IIRC) were interesting in that I could do much, much tighter turns with them, easier. Nice. I must admit that my outings at Tamworth and MK on modern kit, at half term, made me realise that it is time to ditch the twenty year old Nordica boots and 185 Dynastars. The last time I used them they were hard work, but, it has to be said, exhilaratingly fast. Looks like us having a trip to foreign parts next year. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest * 2 Yamaha WR250Z | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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Paging Ace - you are now permitted to smile
Pete Fisher wrote:
In communiqué 1icvsof.1j3iwu81ownitcN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo. co.uk, The Older Gentleman cast forth these pearls of wisdom The skis themselves were only about 7 years old, but not carvers and 195mm long. The Atomics (about 178mm, IIRC) were interesting in that I could do much, much tighter turns with them, easier. Nice. I must admit that my outings at Tamworth and MK on modern kit, at half term, made me realise that it is time to ditch the twenty year old Nordica boots and 185 Dynastars. The last time I used them they were hard work, but, it has to be said, exhilaratingly fast. Take some lessons when you switch too. I was lucky enough a few years ago to take a long weekend in 1850 with son and a guy I met thru usenet who was an instructor and fantastic skier. On the drive down I told him that I was always ready to hear advice on my skiing. Half way throu the first morning he asked if I was serious about learning, and when I confirmed told me how I was not using the modern skis I was on properly. In 3 days he completely deconstructed and reconstructed our skiing technique and it really paid off. I especially noticed it on a curve in a track where i went off the edge in the fog. Because I had both skis weighted and apart and was centred fore-aft as well, I landed it and continued the curve, just tightening it to rejoin the track. Before, it would have been a major wipeout. |
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:07:28 +0000, in
, Pete Fisher wrote: In communiqué 1icvsof.1j3iwu81ownitcN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo. co.uk, The Older Gentleman cast forth these pearls of wisdom The skis themselves were only about 7 years old, but not carvers and 195mm long. The Atomics (about 178mm, IIRC) were interesting in that I could do much, much tighter turns with them, easier. Nice. I must admit that my outings at Tamworth and MK on modern kit, at half term, made me realise that it is time to ditch the twenty year old Nordica boots and 185 Dynastars. The last time I used them they were hard work, but, it has to be said, exhilaratingly fast. Why would you think that the older, longer skis would be 'faster' than newer ones? |
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Ace wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:07:28 +0000, in , Pete Fisher wrote: In communiqué 1icvsof.1j3iwu81ownitcN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo. co.uk, The Older Gentleman cast forth these pearls of wisdom The skis themselves were only about 7 years old, but not carvers and 195mm long. The Atomics (about 178mm, IIRC) were interesting in that I could do much, much tighter turns with them, easier. Nice. I must admit that my outings at Tamworth and MK on modern kit, at half term, made me realise that it is time to ditch the twenty year old Nordica boots and 185 Dynastars. The last time I used them they were hard work, but, it has to be said, exhilaratingly fast. Why would you think that the older, longer skis would be 'faster' than newer ones? This theory has always intrigued me too, especially as FIS repeatedly make race ski minimum lengths longer and longer in an attempt to slow competitors down for their safety. -- Chris *:-) |
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"Ace" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:07:28 +0000, in , Pete Fisher wrote: In communiqué 1icvsof.1j3iwu81ownitcN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo. co.uk, The Older Gentleman cast forth these pearls of wisdom The skis themselves were only about 7 years old, but not carvers and 195mm long. The Atomics (about 178mm, IIRC) were interesting in that I could do much, much tighter turns with them, easier. Nice. I must admit that my outings at Tamworth and MK on modern kit, at half term, made me realise that it is time to ditch the twenty year old Nordica boots and 185 Dynastars. The last time I used them they were hard work, but, it has to be said, exhilaratingly fast. Why would you think that the older, longer skis would be 'faster' than newer ones? Perhaps TOG reckons it's analogous to yachts; the longer the waterline ... |
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:10:56 -0000, in
, "Charlie" wrote: "Ace" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:07:28 +0000, in , Pete Fisher wrote: I must admit that my outings at Tamworth and MK on modern kit, at half term, made me realise that it is time to ditch the twenty year old Nordica boots and 185 Dynastars. The last time I used them they were hard work, but, it has to be said, exhilaratingly fast. Why would you think that the older, longer skis would be 'faster' than newer ones? Perhaps TOG reckons it's analogous to yachts; the longer the waterline ... It wasn't TOG I was asking. |
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On Feb 26, 1:32*pm, Ace wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:10:56 -0000, in , "Charlie" wrote: "Ace" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:07:28 +0000, in , Pete Fisher wrote: I must admit that my outings at Tamworth and MK on modern kit, at half term, made me realise that it is time to ditch the twenty year old Nordica boots and 185 Dynastars. The last time I used them they were hard work, but, it has to be said, exhilaratingly fast. Why would you think that the older, longer skis would be 'faster' than newer ones? Perhaps TOG reckons it's analogous to yachts; the longer the waterline .... It wasn't TOG I was asking. It's a purely empirical observation of straight line veloicity. They are not only long, but very narrow and 'unwaisted' by modern standards. Perhaps that's the answer. Also, I used to have them serviced before each trip. Are hire skis always as 'slippy' as they could be? Even more likely, perhaps more stable in a straight line thus encouraging higher speed? Or to get right down to it - I was faster when I used to ski regularly on them. Do they use "carvers" for straight line speed records? PF |
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"Ace" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:10:56 -0000, in , "Charlie" wrote: "Ace" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:07:28 +0000, in , Pete Fisher wrote: I must admit that my outings at Tamworth and MK on modern kit, at half term, made me realise that it is time to ditch the twenty year old Nordica boots and 185 Dynastars. The last time I used them they were hard work, but, it has to be said, exhilaratingly fast. Why would you think that the older, longer skis would be 'faster' than newer ones? Perhaps TOG reckons it's analogous to yachts; the longer the waterline ... It wasn't TOG I was asking. Ooops. slaps own wrists, to save anyone else the bother Well, the principle remains the same, whoever asked .... |
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Paging Ace - you are now permitted to smile
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:35:05 -0000, in
, "MoonMan" wrote: Ace wrote: Why would you think that the older, longer skis would be 'faster' than newer ones? This theory has always intrigued me too, especially as FIS repeatedly make race ski minimum lengths longer and longer in an attempt to slow competitors down for their safety. To be fair, that's only true for Slalom races, where the shorter skis allow much quicker turns, but at the expense of stability and control. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` |
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