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Old March 22nd 04, 07:04 PM
Walt
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AstroPax wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:03:24 -0500, Walt

WHOOOOOSH!


Is that the best you can do, Walt?


Ok. I'll try to splain it to you more slowly:

Walt wrote
If you're serious about this stuff, you need to take his criticisms
seriously. Dismissing them out of hand is just pure
head-in-the-sand-ism.

Astro wrote:
??? What are you talking about? I post a link indicating a
potential conflict of interest and ethics breach by Viacom/CBS/60
Minutes and you think I'm dismissing things?

Exactly. You're looking for any excuse to dismiss Clarke's story and
change the subject. That way you don't have to listen to things you
don't want to hear.

Anyway, one clear difference between you and me is that you appear to
have the stamina to continue to argue with someone long after it's clear
that you'll never ever get anywhere. I don't have the patience for
that.

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Old March 22nd 04, 07:18 PM
The Real Bev
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Walt wrote:

AstroPax wrote:

snip

Newsmax. Drudge. Do you ever read any real news sources?


Drudge, in addition to his own articles, provides links to a wide
variety of nominally reputable on-line news sources.

Anyway, even assuming it's true (which coming from Drudge is about a 30%
chance) it doesn't rebut the factual claims of Richard Clarke.


Are you sure about that? I haven't been keeping score, but my guess
would be higher.

If you're serious about this stuff, you need to take his criticisms
seriously. Dismissing them out of hand is just pure
head-in-the-sand-ism.


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Old March 22nd 04, 07:43 PM
Walt
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The Real Bev wrote:

Anyway, even assuming it's true (which coming from Drudge is about a 30%
chance) it doesn't rebut the factual claims of Richard Clarke.


Are you sure about that?


Yes, I'm sure about that. It doesn't rebut any factual claims.

I haven't been keeping score, but my guess would be higher.


Oh, you're talking about the 30% figure. Like 63.24% of all statistics
on usenet, it's completely made up.

I don't follow him that closely, but he's been wrong often enough that
he has -ahem- somewhat limited credibility. Remember this one from a
couple of weeks ago? http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk1.htm


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Old March 22nd 04, 07:54 PM
AstroPax
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:04:49 -0500, Walt
wrote:

Anyway, one clear difference between you and me is that you appear to
have the stamina to continue to argue with someone long after it's clear
that you'll never ever get anywhere. I don't have the patience for
that.


And one clear difference between you and me is that you just called
this thread an "argument". I call it a "debate".

-Astro

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Old March 22nd 04, 08:07 PM
Walt
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AstroPax wrote:

And one clear difference between you and me is that you just called
this thread an "argument".


No I didn't.

http://tinyurl.com/vsru

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Old March 22nd 04, 08:30 PM
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"Walt" wrote in message
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AstroPax wrote:

And one clear difference between you and me is that you just called
this thread an "argument".


No I didn't.

http://tinyurl.com/vsru


Just like rsa.

Also this, I stunbled on this morning:

http://tinyurl.com/2f3wa



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Old March 22nd 04, 08:40 PM
BotheW
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In article , AstroPax says...

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:01:54 -0500, Walt
wrote:

Newsmax. Drudge. Do you ever read any real news sources?


Sure, but I usually try and avoid becoming "boxed-in" by limiting
myself to the big liberal controlled media giants such as NBC, ABC,
CBS, CNN, etc.


//snip

-Astro


Then maybe you should try 'fair and balanced' Fox (Murdoch's personal pulpit).
BWAHAHAHA. Isn't O'wrongly objective? Thought so.

BoftheW

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Old March 22nd 04, 10:31 PM
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"Walt" wrote in message
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Chuck wrote:

snip Drudge-esque rumor mongering


Drudge also broke that pesky Monica Lewinski "rumor".


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Old March 22nd 04, 10:37 PM
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"Walt" wrote in message
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AstroPax wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:03:24 -0500, Walt

WHOOOOOSH!


Is that the best you can do, Walt?


Ok. I'll try to splain it to you more slowly:

Walt wrote
If you're serious about this stuff, you need to take his criticisms
seriously. Dismissing them out of hand is just pure
head-in-the-sand-ism.

Astro wrote:
??? What are you talking about? I post a link indicating a
potential conflict of interest and ethics breach by Viacom/CBS/60
Minutes and you think I'm dismissing things?

Exactly. You're looking for any excuse to dismiss Clarke's story and
change the subject. That way you don't have to listen to things you
don't want to hear.


Is that anything like dismissing a story that comes from "non real" news
orgs. like Drudge (Lewinski) and FoxNews? I'll admit that news organizations
tilt news depending on their political leanings. That's nothing new. The
difference is that there is now a conservative side too. Your just going to
have to get used to not having your liberal view being the only one put
forth these days Walt.

Anyway, one clear difference between you and me is that you appear to
have the stamina to continue to argue with someone long after it's clear
that you'll never ever get anywhere. I don't have the patience for
that.

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Old March 22nd 04, 10:38 PM
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"Richard Henry" wrote in message
news:XVI7c.98$Q45.1@fed1read02...

"Walt" wrote in message
...
AstroPax wrote:

And one clear difference between you and me is that you just called
this thread an "argument".


No I didn't.

http://tinyurl.com/vsru


Just like rsa.

Also this, I stunbled on this morning:

http://tinyurl.com/2f3wa


Hey! Can you spell stumbbled?


 




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