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Since no one else has asked ....
Any thoughts on the newest newer new NNN, ie NIS? It appears to be very compatible with NNN3, but the binding is "integrated" with the ski. The position of the binding along the ski is adjustable. Is that a useful feature? A gimmick? Do a google on "NIS Nordic Integrated" for details. |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, SkiFit wrote: The original NNN system rembled NNN2 where the binding meets the boot, but did not have the grove binding/boot interface. With the grooves, there is now greater connection between binding and ski, which allows for greater control and energy transfer. NNN and NN2 systems NNN-BC (backcountry) resembles the old system, but is both wider and presumbably heavier duty for true back country skiing. However, I think most backcountry/telemark skiers continue to use three-pin. I ski on skinny skis, so I'm not sure about advantages there. Each of these systems is distinct and cannot be used with the other, and I doubt you coud buy NNN now, it has gone the way of the Super Eight camera. Part of this is mistaken. NNN and NNN2 both have the same grooves in the front of the boot. NNN2 extended the grooves the full length but they are unchanged in the front. The differences were so minor that all that was necessary to put an NNN2 boot into an NNN binding was a modified flexor. These were available for sale for a while during the changeover period. I still have NNN bindings with the modified flexors on some of my rollerskis because there's just no compelling reason to replace them. -Mitch |
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"Mitch Collinsworth" wrote Part of this is mistaken. NNN and NNN2 both have the same grooves in the front of the boot. NNN2 extended the grooves the full length but they are unchanged in the front. The differences were so minor that all that was necessary to put an NNN2 boot into an NNN binding was a modified flexor. These were available for sale for a while during the changeover period. I still have NNN bindings with the modified flexors on some of my rollerskis because there's just no compelling reason to replace them. -Mitch And, if you ever need them, NNN (I) bindings and parts are always available at places that sell used ski gear like Play it Again. Cam |
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"Camilo" skrev i melding ... "Mitch Collinsworth" wrote Part of this is mistaken. NNN and NNN2 both have the same grooves in the front of the boot. NNN2 extended the grooves the full length but they are unchanged in the front. The differences were so minor that all that was necessary to put an NNN2 boot into an NNN binding was a modified flexor. These were available for sale for a while during the changeover period. I still have NNN bindings with the modified flexors on some of my rollerskis because there's just no compelling reason to replace them. -Mitch And, if you ever need them, NNN (I) bindings and parts are always available at places that sell used ski gear like Play it Again. Late last season and this year I have used my old NNN boots from the -80's with my new NNN bindings with success. -- Terje Henriksen Kirkenes |
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On 20 Jan 2005, wintermutt wrote:
what is the difference between NNN and NNN2 and NNNbc? and also will NNN2 bindings work with NNN boots and also the other way around? So "flexor" is the name of the rubber thingy in front of the boot toe. As Mitch says at one time you could buy flexors to convert NNN-1 bindings so they would work with NNN-2 boots. One can also carve up the original NNN-1 flexor so that it fits. Going the other way (NNN-1 boots in NNN-2 bindings) is a little more tricky- the original flexor isn't long enough to touch the boot toe. I think they also sold a special flexor for that. The NNN-1 system only lasted for a few years, as did the original Salomon D-ring binding. I had both. I was really annoying to change boots and bindings every few years. There is no easy way to make NNN-BC compatible with NNN-2, the sizing of the groves and toe bar is different. -- David Dermott , Wolfville Ridge, Nova Scotia, Canada email: WWW pages: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ |
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I'm new so I wouldn't notice the difference, but I just bought new NNN-BC
bindings and Alpina boots on EBay. I like them so far on my Fisher metal edged back country skis. It was well noted that the bindings and boots had to be BC. I have a second set of skis that were part of a older "racing package" I didn't know any better when I bought these. 50m 3 pin bindings and a shoe style boot that came apart on the 4th day, we just put 75 m bindings on this pair. the skis are 1/4 inch narrower but I think will be fine till we get more experience. BTW backcountry.com was a good site to shop at. free shipping, and I would have saved $10 on the 3 pin bindings if I had known of the site at the time. -- Diane in NH "David Dermott" wrote in message ... On 20 Jan 2005, wintermutt wrote: what is the difference between NNN and NNN2 and NNNbc? and also will NNN2 bindings work with NNN boots and also the other way around? So "flexor" is the name of the rubber thingy in front of the boot toe. As Mitch says at one time you could buy flexors to convert NNN-1 bindings so they would work with NNN-2 boots. One can also carve up the original NNN-1 flexor so that it fits. Going the other way (NNN-1 boots in NNN-2 bindings) is a little more tricky- the original flexor isn't long enough to touch the boot toe. I think they also sold a special flexor for that. The NNN-1 system only lasted for a few years, as did the original Salomon D-ring binding. I had both. I was really annoying to change boots and bindings every few years. There is no easy way to make NNN-BC compatible with NNN-2, the sizing of the groves and toe bar is different. -- David Dermott , Wolfville Ridge, Nova Scotia, Canada email: WWW pages: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ |
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