new management at Lapland Lake, NY

http://www.laplandlake.com/press_release.htm


Eddie

In spite of its sterling reputation in upstate New York, I'm not a big
fan of Lapland Lake. The trails are indeed well maintained, and
they're in a good snow zone. But as a casual classic skier, I get put
off by the number of skate ski racers at the facility who sometimes
have little patience for slower parallel skiers. The place has also
long had the feel of an expensive downhill ski resort...with the latest
in upscale ski outfits. Simply doesn't mesh with my laid back style
with my wool pants, gators and down vest.

The trails also lack a real back country feel. And most do not offer
sufficient ups and downs for my taste.

My favorite cross country resort by far is Garnet Hill. The place
could be packed but if you go on the far trails, you are nearly alone.
For woodland beauty and challenging trails not far from Lapland, I
enjoy Artic Circle.

Lapland, if you want me back, cut some more back country trails on
challenging terrain!

The place actually does NOT have a lot of skate skiers - the trails are
too narrow for skating.

It will be interesting to see how Travis and Ivana will be able to
establish their own style of managing and operating separate from Olavi
and Ann, who will continue to live on the property, help out day-to-day
(according to the website) and, presumably, are still the owners.

Gene


Eddie Luban wrote:

http://www.laplandlake.com/press_release.htm

Eddie

Agreed Andrey,.....but if the new owners were so inclined as to make the
trail system more skate friendly, it has huge fun potential. I love the
layout but the poor skating has (until now?) been a bummer. I would almost
guess from looking at their background that the new owners may want skaters
as well as kickers. Being 55 minutes from LL, I can only hope!

Mike........


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The place actually does NOT have a lot of skate skiers - the trails are
too narrow for skating.

Interesting indeed, Gene. Might make for a great new reality show!

Mike........

"Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message
...
It will be interesting to see how Travis and Ivana will be able to
establish their own style of managing and operating separate from Olavi
and Ann, who will continue to live on the property, help out day-to-day
(according to the website) and, presumably, are still the owners.

Gene


Eddie Luban wrote:

http://www.laplandlake.com/press_release.htm

Eddie

wrote in message
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The place actually does NOT have a lot of skate skiers - the trails are
too narrow for skating.

The last time I was there (about 4 years ago) I was with a friend who was a
novice skier. So we headed for the beginner trails across the road from the
ski store, between the road and the lake. Those loops were full of skate
ski racers. Even though we were staying in the ski tracks, we were nearly
knocked down a couple of times by people skating up from behind.

Granted, I shouldn't knock an entire place by the actions of a few arrogant
SOB's, but it left a bad taste in my mouth.

Bill in Schenectady wrote:

My favorite cross country resort by far is Garnet Hill. The place
could be packed but if you go on the far trails, you are nearly
alone.
For woodland beauty and challenging trails not far from Lapland, I
enjoy Artic Circle.



I'd skip both places if you want back country skiing. Go up to Lake
Placid and ski the Wilderness trails there. Lapland needs wider trails
for good skating and that probably requires moving a lot of trees and
boulders. Has Friend's Lake done any improvements lately?
Jay Tegeder
"On the podium if the right people don't show up!" JT

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:58:46 -0500, "Bill" wrote:

The last time I was there (about 4 years ago) I was with a friend who was a
novice skier. So we headed for the beginner trails across the road from the
ski store, between the road and the lake. Those loops were full of skate
ski racers. Even though we were staying in the ski tracks, we were nearly
knocked down a couple of times by people skating up from behind.

Did they actually hit you? Or were they out of control and only your
quick evasive maneouvres saved you? Or were they skiing the wrong way
on one-way trails? If not, how do you know you were nearly knocked
down?

And how do you even know these people were "racers"? Whatever that
means....

One other thing -- you mentioned earlier you have a laid back style
of dress and the "with the latest in upscale ski outfits" doesn't go
with that. I know this will sound arrogant (I am, in fact, a rather
arrogant person) but I have to say that people with actual laid back
attitudes (not just dress) aren't easily bothered by what other people
are wearing.

I love Garnet Hill too and hope the new management at Lapland Lake can
adapt the quality of grooming and truthfulness in advertising that
Garnet Hill displays.

JFT

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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Bill in Schenectady wrote:

[various gripes deleted]

My favorite cross country resort by far is Garnet Hill. The place
could be packed but if you go on the far trails, you are nearly alone.
For woodland beauty and challenging trails not far from Lapland, I
enjoy Artic Circle.

So isn't it nice to have a choice of more than 1 place to ski? And even
moreso to know that the crowd you don't feel comfortable with is at the
*other* place? :-)

Lapland, if you want me back, cut some more back country trails on
challenging terrain!


I may be mistaken but I was under the impression that much of the land
crossed by the farther reaching trails at LL is not actually owned by
LL. Thus cutting new trails might require new permissions to be otained.
Maybe Gene has a better about this.

In any case, I don't think there's any shortage of back country trails
to be found for skiing. The Adirondacks are chock full of them. It's
nicely groomed trails that there are a shortage of IMO.

-Mitch