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  #21  
Old November 7th 06, 01:55 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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"John Wilcock" wrote in message
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| Ace wrote:
| On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:26:07 +0100, "pg"
wrote:
| There have been a few mobile speed traps along the N75 this past
month -
| one on the Tignes-bound side of the dual in that raised section
beside
| the industrial area a few Ks before Moutiers on the only two
mornings I
| took that road in October, another couple in the villages beyond
Bourg.
|
| I take it you meant the N90, Pete.

Duh... that's the one ;-)


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  #22  
Old November 7th 06, 03:26 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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Ace wrote:
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 07:40:56 +0000, Bill Seddon
wrote:

I'm guessing about 6 - 7 hours to Annecy from Calais?


TBH it's such a long time since I've driven from Calais I forget, but
probably about that, depending on how frequently you stop. In my
experience it's more about continuity than outright speed - if you can
manage with just fuel stops with a quick 5-minute toilet dash and
coffee grab you can save perhaps an hour or more. Two drivers should
help this, of course.

We have 2 drivers
and normally in France I've driven around 140 Kmh but I believe they
are a bit stricter recently?


Well 140 on the clock is pretty much within the limit (130+10%), but
I'd normally be looking to do a bit more than that. As far as I'm
aware, enforcement is mostly down to the fixed cameras, which are all
listed on various websites and for which you can download POIs into a
sat-nav if you have one.

In any event, UK-based friends of mine assure me that despite getting
flashed on a fairly regular basis the french authorities still don't
attempt to follow up UK-plated vehicles. I know that I've been flashed
recently on Swiss plates without being chased.

But as ever, this advice is worth exactly what you paid for it ;-)


Tom Tom will be loaded up with the appropriate databases, and it sounds
like we will be flying down then, only limit is how far the thing will
get on a tank of petrol, probably only about 270 miles, at which point
I'm ready to swap driver anyway.

Bill
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Old November 7th 06, 05:25 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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Sorry but I've seen loads of cars pulled over by the French police,
particularly the last stretch of the autoroute on the way back to Calais
with cars belting to catch the ferry/chunnel ( where they got me ) and fines
are quite steep !

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"Ace" wrote in message
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:26:07 +0100, "pg" wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message
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| Be careful ! Enforcement is not just down to fixed cameras and I'm
pretty
| sure that Brit cars attract "special" interest from the French police.
My on
| the spot fine cost me more than the week's lift passes for Espace
Killy :-(

There have been a few mobile speed traps along the N75 this past month -
one on the Tignes-bound side of the dual in that raised section beside
the industrial area a few Ks before Moutiers on the only two mornings I
took that road in October, another couple in the villages beyond Bourg.


Indeed, one needs to be careful on the N and D roads, but I've hardly
ever seen police cars on the Autoroutes where I contend that, fixed
cameras aside, the chances of getting pulled are very low indeed.

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Old November 7th 06, 09:30 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
Bill Seddon
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Martin wrote:
Sorry but I've seen loads of cars pulled over by the French police,
particularly the last stretch of the autoroute on the way back to Calais
with cars belting to catch the ferry/chunnel ( where they got me ) and fines
are quite steep !

Martin



Who's in a rush to get back :-)


Sounds like I'll be going down at around 140 checking true speed with
Tom Tom, coming back we have loads of time, ski saturday, get in car,
drive a bit, get hotel, drive next day, get chunnel early afternoon,
back home in time for a decent curry.

Bill
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Old November 8th 06, 07:17 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:25:10 -0000, "Martin"
wrote:

Sorry but I've seen loads of cars pulled over by the French police,
particularly the last stretch of the autoroute on the way back to Calais
with cars belting to catch the ferry/chunnel ( where they got me ) and fines
are quite steep !


Yeah, someone else pointed this out too, and I've said that it's a
stretch of road I've not needed to use for years, so wasn't really
what I ws thinking about.

But yes, even ten years back, it was quite well known that they'd do
this, which, I believe, gave rise to the myth that you could be timed
between the péage stations, as it was at the barriers that people were
normally stopped.

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Old November 8th 06, 07:49 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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"Ace" wrote in message
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| On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:25:10 -0000, "Martin"
| wrote:
|
| Sorry but I've seen loads of cars pulled over by the French police,
| particularly the last stretch of the autoroute on the way back to
Calais
| with cars belting to catch the ferry/chunnel ( where they got me )
and fines
| are quite steep !
|
| Yeah, someone else pointed this out too, and I've said that it's a
| stretch of road I've not needed to use for years, so wasn't really
| what I ws thinking about.
|
| But yes, even ten years back, it was quite well known that they'd do
| this, which, I believe, gave rise to the myth that you could be timed
| between the péage stations, as it was at the barriers that people were
| normally stopped.

That idea was mooted, never came to anything.

The French motorway police have finally worked out that their Renault
Meganes and Peugeot 306s S16s can't can't the fastest speedsters on the
roads, so they've started building up a fleet of Subaru Impreza WRX's.
What can they reach, 150mph or thereabouts?


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Old November 8th 06, 07:58 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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pg wrote:
| But yes, even ten years back, it was quite well known that they'd do
| this, which, I believe, gave rise to the myth that you could be timed
| between the péage stations, as it was at the barriers that people were
| normally stopped.

That idea was mooted, never came to anything.


They conducted trials of timing between toll booths a little while back
(summer 2004 IIRC) between Lyon and Grenoble, just collecting data
without actually issuing speeding tickets. I don't know whether the idea
was deemed worthy of further investigation or whether it has been
completely dropped.

John.

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Old November 22nd 06, 12:56 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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John Wilcock wrote:

Admittedly if they don't chase up foreign plates then many readers of
this ng ought to be safe.


No they don't but be careful anyway... British ski/drivers are on the
opposite side of the road, often on summer tires in what can be
difficult winter driving conditions.

My personal experience is that Brit drivers are generally pretty good in
the Alps compared to some of the risk taking locals but I have seen some
complete idiots (usually 4x4 drivers) driving excessively fast in very
marginal conditions.
  #29  
Old November 22nd 06, 12:57 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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John Wilcock wrote:
They conducted trials of timing between toll booths a little while back
(summer 2004 IIRC) between Lyon and Grenoble, just collecting data
without actually issuing speeding tickets. I don't know whether the idea
was deemed worthy of further investigation or whether it has been
completely dropped.


It is not currently in use.
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Old November 22nd 06, 01:15 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:56:02 +0100, davidof
wrote:

John Wilcock wrote:

Admittedly if they don't chase up foreign plates then many readers of
this ng ought to be safe.


No they don't but be careful anyway... British ski/drivers are on the
opposite side of the road, often on summer tires in what can be
difficult winter driving conditions.

My personal experience is that Brit drivers are generally pretty good in
the Alps compared to some of the risk taking locals but I have seen some
complete idiots (usually 4x4 drivers) driving excessively fast in very
marginal conditions.


Indeed. And many don't realise that their general use on/off road
tyres are no better than ordinary car tyres on snow and ice.

But for me, the very worst drivers to look out for in the Alps are any
with Paris plates. These guys drive like they ski, in the firm belief
that their one week a year since childhood makes them a god. These are
generally the only people who try and overtake me[1]. If they do, I
tend to just let 'em and then drop back as far as practical. Not worth
the hassle, as these are also the ones inclined towards road rage.

[1] I like to think I know what I'm doing in my powerful 4WD car ;-)

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