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Old November 27th 03, 06:05 AM
chas
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Default Foot still attached to board when on chair lifts is killing my knee...

When I went snowboarding in Korea, they let people carry their
snowboard when they ride on a chair lift (and in fact, many people do
just this, as opposed to wearing them on the lift).

However, at the resort I went to in Japan, they absolutely forbid this
- instead, you have to get on the lift with one (leading) foot still
strapped into the board. I can only surmise that they do this to
prevent somebody dropping their board onto the slopes (or people)
below ???

Is this the same situation in Europe and USA ?

Anyway, this in itself would be ok, except the knee of that leading
leg always hurts as a result ... with each day, I notice that riding
on the lifts soon becomes the part I dread most as the stress in the
knee becomes excruciating. (My binding angle is only 15 degrees, so
sitting on a lift with 2 or 3 other people and my board facing forward
means twisting the foot 90 degrees and when you're sat down all of
that comes out of the knee).

Has anybody else experienced and overcome this at all ?

Apologies for this rather silly question.

chas
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Old November 27th 03, 08:27 AM
Edward Arata
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Default Foot still attached to board when on chair lifts is killing my knee...

This is normal in the States, at least on the West Coast.

Boarders traditionally dangle their board from one foot.

The best situation is to get on a lift with all boarders with preferably the
same stance (regular/goofy)
Then everyone can turn the boards and support the back with by resting it on
your back foot.

The other option is a lighter board, or if you have longer legs than most
like I, you can still do this below other boarders and skiers. It usually
pretty easy when with skiers.

Carrying your board on the lift? How do you get off? Thanks

Ed


"chas" wrote in message
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When I went snowboarding in Korea, they let people carry their
snowboard when they ride on a chair lift (and in fact, many people do
just this, as opposed to wearing them on the lift).

However, at the resort I went to in Japan, they absolutely forbid this
- instead, you have to get on the lift with one (leading) foot still
strapped into the board. I can only surmise that they do this to
prevent somebody dropping their board onto the slopes (or people)
below ???

Is this the same situation in Europe and USA ?

Anyway, this in itself would be ok, except the knee of that leading
leg always hurts as a result ... with each day, I notice that riding
on the lifts soon becomes the part I dread most as the stress in the
knee becomes excruciating. (My binding angle is only 15 degrees, so
sitting on a lift with 2 or 3 other people and my board facing forward
means twisting the foot 90 degrees and when you're sat down all of
that comes out of the knee).

Has anybody else experienced and overcome this at all ?

Apologies for this rather silly question.

chas



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Old November 27th 03, 08:27 AM
Iain D
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Default Foot still attached to board when on chair lifts is killing myknee...

chas wrote:
When I went snowboarding in Korea, they let people carry their
snowboard when they ride on a chair lift (and in fact, many people do
just this, as opposed to wearing them on the lift).

However, at the resort I went to in Japan, they absolutely forbid this
- instead, you have to get on the lift with one (leading) foot still
strapped into the board. I can only surmise that they do this to
prevent somebody dropping their board onto the slopes (or people)
below ???

Is this the same situation in Europe and USA ?

Anyway, this in itself would be ok, except the knee of that leading
leg always hurts as a result ... with each day, I notice that riding
on the lifts soon becomes the part I dread most as the stress in the
knee becomes excruciating. (My binding angle is only 15 degrees, so
sitting on a lift with 2 or 3 other people and my board facing forward
means twisting the foot 90 degrees and when you're sat down all of
that comes out of the knee).

Has anybody else experienced and overcome this at all ?


It's normal practice to keep the board attached to the front foot. Often
you'll get a bar at foot level to rest your board on which takes the
weight - it's attached to the safety bar that you pull down. That works
pretty well - you get rid of the weight if not the twist. If there's no
bar - tends to be the case with older lift systems - I always rotate my
board round so it's perpendicular to the direction of travel and my legs
aren't twisted. I then rest the heel cup of the rear binding on the toe
of my rear foot. On a crowded lift this can be tricky as you get tangled
with other skis and boards - it's doable though! Thinking about it, it
may be easier for me as I have longer legs than most so my board ends up
below the other skis/boards.
Iain

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Old November 27th 03, 09:54 AM
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"chas" wrote in message
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sitting on a lift with 2 or 3 other people and my board facing forward
means twisting the foot 90 degrees and when you're sat down all of
that comes out of the knee).


Try and sit at on the end seat (right hand side if you are regular, left if
you are goofy) then you can rotate the board and sit facing forward without
tangling with anyone else.


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Old November 27th 03, 08:34 PM
Tiburon27
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Default Foot still attached to board when on chair lifts is killing my knee...

I do up the first few ratchets of my back foot while waiting in line and
when on the chair I slip my back foot into the binding and it helps alot.
If you are particularly dextrous wou can also tighten up the toe ratchet and
put on the ankle ratchet while riding up the chair avoiding having to strap
in at the top!
It takes practice but works for me.


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Old November 28th 03, 02:41 PM
Steve A.
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Default Foot still attached to board when on chair lifts is killing my knee...

I just learned to snowboard last winter and was having the same problem. I
would rest the board on top of my free foot (my right foot) and support it.
This got rid of some of the twisting in my leg. The biggest problem was
when the lift first takes off. I'd get all twisted up being a newbie (or
SPORE as you call em, hahahah). I suspect I'll go thru it all over again
since I learned on a 155 and bought a 162 recently.

Hope that small tip helps.

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When I went snowboarding in Korea, they let people carry their
snowboard when they ride on a chair lift (and in fact, many people do
just this, as opposed to wearing them on the lift).

However, at the resort I went to in Japan, they absolutely forbid this
- instead, you have to get on the lift with one (leading) foot still
strapped into the board. I can only surmise that they do this to
prevent somebody dropping their board onto the slopes (or people)
below ???

Is this the same situation in Europe and USA ?

Anyway, this in itself would be ok, except the knee of that leading
leg always hurts as a result ... with each day, I notice that riding
on the lifts soon becomes the part I dread most as the stress in the
knee becomes excruciating. (My binding angle is only 15 degrees, so
sitting on a lift with 2 or 3 other people and my board facing forward
means twisting the foot 90 degrees and when you're sat down all of
that comes out of the knee).

Has anybody else experienced and overcome this at all ?

Apologies for this rather silly question.

chas



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Old December 11th 03, 04:13 PM
chas
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Default Foot still attached to board when on chair lifts is killing my knee...

Thanks to everybody for their input... wow, what a polite and helpful
newsgroup (they still do exist

Have been playing with the idea of trying to get my second (rear) foot
into the straps as I ride the lift - will try to make it a reality
this year. Or just finally learn to ride goofy so that I can swap legs
and relieve the pressure on my dodgy knee.

Thanks again guys.

Chas
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Old December 11th 03, 06:09 PM
Mike T
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Default Foot still attached to board when on chair lifts is killing my knee...

Thanks to everybody for their input... wow, what a polite and helpful
newsgroup (they still do exist


For the most part





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Old December 15th 03, 09:00 PM
Sharkie
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Default Foot still attached to board when on chair lifts is killing my knee...

(chas) wrote in message . com...
...However, at the resort I went to in Japan, they absolutely forbid this
- instead, you have to get on the lift with one (leading) foot still
strapped into the board....
...Is this the same situation in Europe and USA ?


Yes it is. Actually it's the first time I hear about places where
they allow you to remove the snowboard completely.

To remove the leg pain while riding with your front foot strapped in
you can do 2 things:

1) let the board rest on top of your back foot. The problem with this
is the board will be turned sideways, which might be an obstacle
if there are skiers sitting beside you. But you can minimize this angle
by putting your back foot more forward. If you have your back foot
where the back bindings are, the board will be turned sideways. But
put your foot more forward (towards the front foot), and you'll notice
the board will turn more forward as well. If you put your back foot
just behind your front foot, the board will be enough forward to allow
sitting with a skier without hitting his equipment.

2) turn (rotate) slightly in your chair. So if you're a regular rider
rotate clockwise. Lean back and only your right part of your back should
be leaned against the back support. This works best if you sit in a corner
(you're the leftmost rider if you're regular). This way you will reduce
the twist required to keep the board in a forward position.

Combine the two and you should always ride the chairlift comfortably.
There's really no need to ride in a twisted position, or end up with
knee pain. If you do, change something. I've been riding for many years
and the chairlift was always a relaxing experience for me.

Enjoy your riding!
 




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