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Boots have cracked ?
My first pair of boots have formed a half inch crack where the instep meets the ankle. They are a pair of Lange Mad Max boots that I bought in the fall of 1999. I only use them for about a week or two each year. My question is whether I have abused the boots. When I walk around I unbuckle the boots for the sake of comfort. Could walking around in unbucked boots stress them too much and cause a crack ? I thought boots were tough enough to withstand a beating. Any help would be appreciated ? John -- John Bradley "I'm a realist. I always see the possibilities for the worst event. At the same time, I'm maybe so much of a realist that I'm quite optimistic. What a paradox." --- Egil Olsen |
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John Bradley wrote:
My first pair of boots have formed a half inch crack where the instep meets the ankle. They are a pair of Lange Mad Max boots that I bought in the fall of 1999. I only use them for about a week or two each year. My question is whether I have abused the boots. When I walk around I unbuckle the boots for the sake of comfort. Could walking around in unbucked boots stress them too much and cause a crack ? I thought boots were tough enough to withstand a beating. Any help would be appreciated ? My boots are way older than that and get at most 6 days of use sob per year. I don't see how they could possibly be worn enough to actually break. What do the people who sold them to you say? -- Cheers, Bev ================================================== ========= "You should be glad that bridge fell down -- I was planning to build thirteen more to the same design." -- Attributed to I.K. Brunel, addressing the Directors of the Great Western Railway |
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The Real Bev wrote:
John Bradley wrote: My first pair of boots have formed a half inch crack What do the people who sold them to you say? And Lange. What does Lange say? Lange does not want to get a Nordica reputation. By the way - I saw another case of Exploding Nordica a couple of weeks ago, out in the bowl at Alpine. Stopped to check on a guy who looked to be in difficulty, and lo - his boot had split vertically along both sides of the ankle - front from back. I'd only seen the classic "sole breaking off" before, but sure enough Nordica of the 15-20 year old variety. Really quite fun to see it again - guy got a free snow-mobile ride out of the deal. Now my Raichles - they never had plastic failures in about 1500 days skiing - buckles, bales, sole wear, liner wear, but no plastics failures. |
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lal_truckee wrote:
The Real Bev wrote: John Bradley wrote: My first pair of boots have formed a half inch crack What do the people who sold them to you say? And Lange. What does Lange say? Lange does not want to get a Nordica reputation. By the way - I saw another case of Exploding Nordica a couple of weeks ago, out in the bowl at Alpine. Stopped to check on a guy who looked to be in difficulty, and lo - his boot had split vertically along both sides of the ankle - front from back. That's what happened to mine, and both boots split at the same time. Like some sort of time bomb. First hint was when I was going back to the car at the end of the day and it was suddenly very easy to walk in them. I'd only seen the classic "sole breaking off" before, but sure enough Nordica of the 15-20 year old variety. Really quite fun to see it again - guy got a free snow-mobile ride out of the deal. Husband doesn't wear 'formal' shoes too much, and at a friend's wedding the sole suddenly separated from the upper of one of his shoes. Fortunately I carry a big purse and he was wearing black socks. Now my Raichles - they never had plastic failures in about 1500 days skiing - buckles, bales, sole wear, liner wear, but no plastics failures. Mine are still in fine shape too, even if they are rear-entry. Less than a hundred of my days, god knows how much use the previous owner gave them. -- Cheers, Bev ================================================== ======== There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness.' |
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The Real Bev writes:
John Bradley wrote: My first pair of boots have formed a half inch crack where the instep meets the ankle. They are a pair of Lange Mad Max boots that I bought in the fall of 1999. I only use them for about a week or two each year. My question is whether I have abused the boots. When I walk around I unbuckle the boots for the sake of comfort. Could walking around in unbucked boots stress them too much and cause a crack ? I thought boots were tough enough to withstand a beating. Any help would be appreciated ? My boots are way older than that and get at most 6 days of use sob per year. I don't see how they could possibly be worn enough to actually break. What do the people who sold them to you say? I haven't contacted the seller or Lange yet. I value the comments that I might get on this group more than those of the ski shop or Lange. I was hoping that somebody could tell me, if I abused the boots too much. I just got back from Banff. I noticed the problem after the last day of skiing. So I have no idea how long they have been cracked. I plan to use them again in Davos next month, while keeping an eye open to see if the crack gets worse. This is disappointing, because I was feeling good about how well the boots fit. I'm hoping that I don't have to dispose of the boots. I was going to write to Lange after I return from Davos. I don't expect much. Is it possible that they would return a rebate on my next pair of boots ? -- John Bradley "I'm a realist. I always see the possibilities for the worst event. At the same time, I'm maybe so much of a realist that I'm quite optimistic. What a paradox." --- Egil Olsen |
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"lal_truckee" wrote in message ... The Real Bev wrote: John Bradley wrote: My first pair of boots have formed a half inch crack What do the people who sold them to you say? And Lange. What does Lange say? Lange does not want to get a Nordica reputation. By the way - I saw another case of Exploding Nordica a couple of weeks ago, out in the bowl at Alpine. Stopped to check on a guy who looked to be in difficulty, and lo - his boot had split vertically along both sides of the ankle - front from back. I'd only seen the classic "sole breaking off" before, but sure enough Nordica of the 15-20 year old variety. Really quite fun to see it again - guy got a free snow-mobile ride out of the deal. Now my Raichles - they never had plastic failures in about 1500 days skiing - buckles, bales, sole wear, liner wear, but no plastics failures. I had one pair of Nordicas split where they flex after about 6-700 days. Yesterday I wore my old Nordica Grand Prix to ski. I got some Rossignol Course boots a few years ago but never got the extensive work done on them that I had always done in the past. Even in the 10 days a year, they were a pain in the (admittedly misshapen) feet. I think I'm going to stick with the Nordicas. Anybody interested in a pair of Rossignol 4 buckle boots? They're good stiff boots. I just don't need that amount of performance anymore. pigo |
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I'm not an expert on ski boots or repair/replacement policies. (But that
never stops me from commenting.) Walking with your boots unbuckled shouldn't have caused the cracks. Almost everyone does the same thing to some degree. If it is something you caused, I would look more to how the boots were stored (you didn't store them in a hot attic over the summer??), or dried (you didn't set them by the fire every night?) etc. Write to Lange and see what they say. These are old enough I doubt they will replace them with a new pair. A rebate/discount might be a good suggestion for you to make. I would take back to the shop you bought them from if at all possible. Most manufacturers want the retailer to be the primary customer interface. "John Bradley" wrote in message ... The Real Bev writes: John Bradley wrote: My first pair of boots have formed a half inch crack where the instep meets the ankle. They are a pair of Lange Mad Max boots that I bought in the fall of 1999. I only use them for about a week or two each year. My question is whether I have abused the boots. When I walk around I unbuckle the boots for the sake of comfort. Could walking around in unbucked boots stress them too much and cause a crack ? I thought boots were tough enough to withstand a beating. Any help would be appreciated ? My boots are way older than that and get at most 6 days of use sob per year. I don't see how they could possibly be worn enough to actually break. What do the people who sold them to you say? I haven't contacted the seller or Lange yet. I value the comments that I might get on this group more than those of the ski shop or Lange. I was hoping that somebody could tell me, if I abused the boots too much. I just got back from Banff. I noticed the problem after the last day of skiing. So I have no idea how long they have been cracked. I plan to use them again in Davos next month, while keeping an eye open to see if the crack gets worse. This is disappointing, because I was feeling good about how well the boots fit. I'm hoping that I don't have to dispose of the boots. I was going to write to Lange after I return from Davos. I don't expect much. Is it possible that they would return a rebate on my next pair of boots ? -- John Bradley "I'm a realist. I always see the possibilities for the worst event. At the same time, I'm maybe so much of a realist that I'm quite optimistic. What a paradox." --- Egil Olsen |
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"jvwalker51" wrote in message ... On 12/15/03 9:09 PM, in article , "John Bradley" wrote: My first pair of boots have formed a half inch crack where the instep meets the ankle. They are a pair of Lange Mad Max boots snip Sometimes when boots are molded, they have flaws in the plastic much in the same way that cast metals have. I have seen this problem in a variety of boots including high-end Tecnicas. What happened to you is not normal. I agree, especially if you see lots of swirl marks in the plastic in that area. Boots are tough and if the boots look in good shape the dealer should go to bat for you. I wouldn't probably want to keep skiing on it though. If it fractures severly you could find youself in a sudden loss of control. Good reason for Lange and the dealer to want those boots off your feet. Also good news for Lange that you noticed it befor it became dangerous. F. Plant |
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