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Recommendation for a snowboard
Hello!
Looking for a new board! I am intermediate to advanced in skill (but have the occasional wipe out). Being in Eastern Ontario, the conditions are mostly hard packed, ice and fast. If lucky, might end up out west (Rockies) one or two time a year for some god like boarding (sweet powder). I like speed and carving - but no asymetrical boards. I also prefer to stay on the ground - doing jumps isn't hard, it is the landing. I land - just not well (see the above about the occasional wipe out). Recommendations on a good board for me? Personal experiences - good/bad? Thanks, Tmuld. |
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Tavish Muldoon wrote:
I like speed and carving - but no asymetrical boards. Soft boots - Prior MFR or AMF, Donek Incline, Rad-Air Leto or Tanker Hard boots - Prior 4WD, Donek Axis, Coiler AM Neil |
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I like speed and carving - but no asymetrical boards.
Soft boots - Prior MFR or AMF, Donek Incline, Rad-Air Leto or Tanker Hard boots - Prior 4WD, Donek Axis, Coiler AM I second that... I have personal experience with the Incline, Axis and Coiler AM and would recommend any of them in a heartbeat. Please post your weight, foot size, and preference for hard/soft boots, and we might be able to make even more specific recommendations on sizes and models. Mike T |
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I am just looking for a board right now - I have flow binding whick I
like. I like the K2 T1 boots - the ones that basically tie themselves! (don't own them of course) Height - 5' 9" Weight - 150lbs Foot 9-9.5 (N.American sizing) Never heard of Incline, Axis or Coiler AM... Thanks! Tmuld I second that... I have personal experience with the Incline, Axis and Coiler AM and would recommend any of them in a heartbeat. Please post your weight, foot size, and preference for hard/soft boots, and we might be able to make even more specific recommendations on sizes and models. Mike T |
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Height 5' 9"
Weight 150 lbs Foot 9.0-9.5 (North American) Thanks! Tmuld |
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Tavish Muldoon wrote:
I am just looking for a board right now - I have flow binding whick I like. I like the K2 T1 boots - the ones that basically tie themselves! (don't own them of course) Height - 5' 9" Weight - 150lbs Foot 9-9.5 (N.American sizing) Never heard of Incline, Axis or Coiler AM... www.donek.com for the Inclines and other good stuff www.priorsnowboards.com for the MFR and AMF Search this newsgroup using Google Groups for discussions of Donek and Prior. They are both relatively small, North American based manufacturers offering high quality boards. Coiler is the same but alpine-only so as you're in softies don't worry about it. But for a picture of my beloved AM, see http://www.kendo-sask.com/CoilerAM172/overview.jpg For a foot size that small and your stated riding preferences, you may well be very happy on one of the smaller Donek Inclines. Neil |
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For fun I tried on a pair of Northwave Quest Boa's I fit a European
42.5 quite comfortable. Stance? Rear foot is usually at 0, front about 12-15 degrees. Very cool board! What is the main difference in riding an asymetric board? Anything close to that in a soft boot? When you say 'Alpine' board - what sort of conditions is that used on. I would like to move in that direction. Tmuld. |
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Neil Gendzwill wrote: Tavish Muldoon wrote: I am just looking for a board right now - I have flow binding whick I like. I like the K2 T1 boots - the ones that basically tie themselves! (don't own them of course) Height - 5' 9" Weight - 150lbs Foot 9-9.5 (N.American sizing) Never heard of Incline, Axis or Coiler AM... www.donek.com for the Inclines and other good stuff www.priorsnowboards.com for the MFR and AMF Search this newsgroup using Google Groups for discussions of Donek and Prior. They are both relatively small, North American based manufacturers offering high quality boards. Coiler is the same but alpine-only so as you're in softies don't worry about it. But for a picture of my beloved AM, see http://www.kendo-sask.com/CoilerAM172/overview.jpg For a foot size that small and your stated riding preferences, you may well be very happy on one of the smaller Donek Inclines. Neil I'm slightly smaller than Tavish at 5'8", 150 lbs with 7.5-8 boots and riding similar angles to him (18/3-15/0) and I have the Donek Incline 155 which I really love for carving - it is a "stiff" freeride board that has excellent edgehold (even on icy hardpack condition) and very crisp on turns - on a groomed slope at any steepness the Incline is a rockstar and usable even up to the beginner-intermediate level. However, it's extra stiffness and it's tendency to "hold on" to a carve makes it a bit of a dog to ride in the bumps, trees as it doesn't release from it's turns quickly. Also, it's narrow profile really causes it to sink into powder when you are going slow (at higher speed it is fine though) - so slow runs through tree powder are just not fun. With Tavish's larger feet I would actually steer him towards the Donek Wide 155 (26cm waist) or Phoenix 155 (24.8) over the Incline 155 (24cm) because even with size 7.5-8 feet I get boot overhang and will drag out of a carve if I'm tipping the board too high on the edge (60-70 degrees). The Wide isn't actually very wide (they have a Sasquatch model for BIG feet) and has virtually the same characteristic as the Incline, but with less boot overhang and much more powder floatation. The Phoenix has a wide profile and a much softer flex (the Incline/Wide are some of the stiffest freeride boards on the market) which supposedly makes it much easier to ride in the bumps, trees, powder, and park (according the website). I've found the Incline fine for straight airs in the park... but the stiff flex between the bindings and the setback make it a little awkward to spin on - I'm guessing the Phoenix will be better (I plan to switch to one in the next few seasons - unless Tavish wants to buy my Incline 155 from me =]). P.S. if you do get a Donek be SURE to have the edges beveled, Donek doesn't bevel the edges like other manufacturers and at 0/0 unless you are an expert it will eat your alive! (ok I'm exaggerating, but 0/0 is intense). I recently demo'd the Prior boards as well. The AMF's are park boards and while damp... just have too short a sidecut (7.5 for the 155) even for me to ride outside of the park. The MFR is smoother and damper (good for icy/rutted snow) - more a luxury ride compared to the hard carving Donek Incline (I demoed a MFR 158 so it feel a little long and with a 8.9m sidecut and a 25cm waist, which made it want to do big wider turns). The MFR 158 was a lot more fun in the powder - although again I suspect the Wide and Phoenix in particular would be a better matchup. Both boards are very nice... although the Donek are more affordable (and you can get free demos). |
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lonerider wrote:
Neil Gendzwill wrote: Tavish Muldoon wrote: I am just looking for a board right now - I have flow binding whick I like. I like the K2 T1 boots - the ones that basically tie themselves! (don't own them of course) Height - 5' 9" Weight - 150lbs Foot 9-9.5 (N.American sizing) Never heard of Incline, Axis or Coiler AM... www.donek.com for the Inclines and other good stuff www.priorsnowboards.com for the MFR and AMF Search this newsgroup using Google Groups for discussions of Donek and Prior. They are both relatively small, North American based manufacturers offering high quality boards. Coiler is the same but alpine-only so as you're in softies don't worry about it. But for a picture of my beloved AM, see http://www.kendo-sask.com/CoilerAM172/overview.jpg For a foot size that small and your stated riding preferences, you may well be very happy on one of the smaller Donek Inclines. Neil I'm slightly smaller than Tavish at 5'8", 150 lbs with 7.5-8 boots and riding similar angles to him (18/3-15/0) and I have the Donek Incline 155 which I really love for carving - it is a "stiff" freeride board that has excellent edgehold (even on icy hardpack condition) and very crisp on turns - on a groomed slope at any steepness the Incline is a rockstar and usable even up to the beginner-intermediate level. However, it's extra stiffness and it's tendency to "hold on" to a carve makes it a bit of a dog to ride in the bumps, trees as it doesn't release from it's turns quickly. Also, it's narrow profile really causes it to sink into powder when you are going slow (at higher speed it is fine though) - so slow runs through tree powder are just not fun. With Tavish's larger feet I would actually steer him towards the Donek Wide 155 (26cm waist) or Phoenix 155 (24.8) over the Incline 155 (24cm) because even with size 7.5-8 feet I get boot overhang and will drag out of a carve if I'm tipping the board too high on the edge (60-70 degrees). The Wide isn't actually very wide (they have a Sasquatch model for BIG feet) and has virtually the same characteristic as the Incline, but with less boot overhang and much more powder floatation. The Phoenix has a wide profile and a much softer flex (the Incline/Wide are some of the stiffest freeride boards on the market) which supposedly makes it much easier to ride in the bumps, trees, powder, and park (according the website). I've found the Incline fine for straight airs in the park... but the stiff flex between the bindings and the setback make it a little awkward to spin on - I'm guessing the Phoenix will be better (I plan to switch to one in the next few seasons - unless Tavish wants to buy my Incline 155 from me =]). P.S. if you do get a Donek be SURE to have the edges beveled, Donek doesn't bevel the edges like other manufacturers and at 0/0 unless you are an expert it will eat your alive! (ok I'm exaggerating, but 0/0 is intense). I recently demo'd the Prior boards as well. The AMF's are park boards and while damp... just have too short a sidecut (7.5 for the 155) even for me to ride outside of the park. The MFR is smoother and damper (good for icy/rutted snow) - more a luxury ride compared to the hard carving Donek Incline (I demoed a MFR 158 so it feel a little long and with a 8.9m sidecut and a 25cm waist, which made it want to do big wider turns). The MFR 158 was a lot more fun in the powder - although again I suspect the Wide and Phoenix in particular would be a better matchup. Both boards are very nice... although the Donek are more affordable (and you can get free demos). Hello Arvin, Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have some questions. Did you demo a Phoenix? Just got back from a Boradercross and have some performance concerns. Thanx! Chris |
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Hi
I'm currently riding a 4 year old Wide 161 which I'm thinking of retiring. I was probably going to replace it with another wide, but now I'm not so sure. I'd be VERY interested in the opinion of anyone who's ridden the Phoenix and a Wide/Incline. Living in the UK I only get to ride on snow for a week or two each year. The rest of the time I'm stuck with dryslope, so I'd like a board that's a bit more forgiving... TIA Andy "Christopher Cox" wrote in message .. . lonerider wrote: Neil Gendzwill wrote: Tavish Muldoon wrote: I am just looking for a board right now - I have flow binding whick I like. I like the K2 T1 boots - the ones that basically tie themselves! (don't own them of course) Height - 5' 9" Weight - 150lbs Foot 9-9.5 (N.American sizing) Never heard of Incline, Axis or Coiler AM... www.donek.com for the Inclines and other good stuff www.priorsnowboards.com for the MFR and AMF Search this newsgroup using Google Groups for discussions of Donek and Prior. They are both relatively small, North American based manufacturers offering high quality boards. Coiler is the same but alpine-only so as you're in softies don't worry about it. But for a picture of my beloved AM, see http://www.kendo-sask.com/CoilerAM172/overview.jpg For a foot size that small and your stated riding preferences, you may well be very happy on one of the smaller Donek Inclines. Neil I'm slightly smaller than Tavish at 5'8", 150 lbs with 7.5-8 boots and riding similar angles to him (18/3-15/0) and I have the Donek Incline 155 which I really love for carving - it is a "stiff" freeride board that has excellent edgehold (even on icy hardpack condition) and very crisp on turns - on a groomed slope at any steepness the Incline is a rockstar and usable even up to the beginner-intermediate level. However, it's extra stiffness and it's tendency to "hold on" to a carve makes it a bit of a dog to ride in the bumps, trees as it doesn't release from it's turns quickly. Also, it's narrow profile really causes it to sink into powder when you are going slow (at higher speed it is fine though) - so slow runs through tree powder are just not fun. With Tavish's larger feet I would actually steer him towards the Donek Wide 155 (26cm waist) or Phoenix 155 (24.8) over the Incline 155 (24cm) because even with size 7.5-8 feet I get boot overhang and will drag out of a carve if I'm tipping the board too high on the edge (60-70 degrees). The Wide isn't actually very wide (they have a Sasquatch model for BIG feet) and has virtually the same characteristic as the Incline, but with less boot overhang and much more powder floatation. The Phoenix has a wide profile and a much softer flex (the Incline/Wide are some of the stiffest freeride boards on the market) which supposedly makes it much easier to ride in the bumps, trees, powder, and park (according the website). I've found the Incline fine for straight airs in the park... but the stiff flex between the bindings and the setback make it a little awkward to spin on - I'm guessing the Phoenix will be better (I plan to switch to one in the next few seasons - unless Tavish wants to buy my Incline 155 from me =]). P.S. if you do get a Donek be SURE to have the edges beveled, Donek doesn't bevel the edges like other manufacturers and at 0/0 unless you are an expert it will eat your alive! (ok I'm exaggerating, but 0/0 is intense). I recently demo'd the Prior boards as well. The AMF's are park boards and while damp... just have too short a sidecut (7.5 for the 155) even for me to ride outside of the park. The MFR is smoother and damper (good for icy/rutted snow) - more a luxury ride compared to the hard carving Donek Incline (I demoed a MFR 158 so it feel a little long and with a 8.9m sidecut and a 25cm waist, which made it want to do big wider turns). The MFR 158 was a lot more fun in the powder - although again I suspect the Wide and Phoenix in particular would be a better matchup. Both boards are very nice... although the Donek are more affordable (and you can get free demos). Hello Arvin, Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have some questions. Did you demo a Phoenix? Just got back from a Boradercross and have some performance concerns. Thanx! Chris |
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