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On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 6:40 AM, Yort wrote:
.... Or, try this variant: .... Of course, since its mine, I like it better than the previous two versions, but what do people think? Cool! Your version is the best, for sure. I am pretty amazed you could do that with a compressed file. The sky looks awesome. Off to experiment with yet another tip... Thanks, Mike... -- Littleton, Colorado (reply to msaemisch at yahoo dot com) See my ski photography at: http://PowderDay.us Carpe powder-diem |
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Hangin at the Ski photo-Shop
On 12 Aug 2003 03:25:08 GMT, "Let Mikey Ski It!"
wrote: Yup! Shoot and learn. I think you need to send me that new lens. Grumble grumble. $1600 bucks! It better be as good as all the reviews say it is. What the hell. As many pics as I shoot, the savings in film cost alone has already paid for the cam...and will probably pay for this new lens by the end of the upcoming season. But if doesn't snow worth a ****, I'm screwed. Hey, did you upgrade your camera to firmware 2.0? If not, I can help. Yea, I got it from a link provided on the Nikon SLR Forum. I probably didn't really need 2.0...but I figured what the hell...better keep up with the Jones's. Now, if I can just get my powder breathing subjects to "STOP LOOKING AT THE CAMERA" !!! -Astro --- x-Vertigo http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/02-03/index.htm --- |
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On 12 Aug 2003 03:20:01 GMT, "Let Mikey Ski It!"
wrote: Cool! Your version is the best, for sure. I am pretty amazed you could do that with a compressed file. The sky looks awesome. Off to experiment with yet another tip... Thanks, Mike... You are quite welcome. Once you get into the routine, correcting photos with this procedure can be done in under a couple of min and almost with your mind in idle and the clutch in. For yucks, I quickly did the same sort of correction on your 2nd photo: Befo http://homepage.mac.com/saemisch/Temp/DSC_2697.jpg After: http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0VgDYAv8axrWMHb1wVdK59TJ6cm5nCzNFJfsgrTpnN*3bd101x 54MOPjGP1UkK8gS5YF3KbPnsqYgDyOlUMY7QejKCzuzWt9h14P Zqizov3CUX!pcbe1QFyKg2lCoACXN/SkierInOpenTrees#2-Tfix03.jpg?dc=4675434182663395420 Because I intentionally rushed to see how fast I could execute this procedure, I'm not 100% happy with this version ... the one-piece came out a bit too neon blue for my taste and I overcooked the highlights in the foreground snow. OTOH, you can certainly see a lot more color and details in the branches as well as in the pow that the skier is kicking up. If I had taken a few more sec, I probably would have been a bit more careful in my final levels adjustment and not had the burnt-out snow. Solving the problem of the overly saturated blue takes just one more quick correction: a) Roughly copy the skier from the original; b) Past it (correctly aligned) into the corrected image on a new layer. Feather the edges of this object by 4 or 5 pixels. c) By adjusting the transparency, you can go anywhere from the original to the 100% modified version. My guess is that somewhere around 25% original would be pretty good to tone down the neon-blue. Here's one of my own images (Steamboat at night) that was done in the same general way (ie, tweaking the highlights and shadow areas separately), but the different areas were not selected by the procedure I described above. There was so much contrast in this scene that I actually had to take two separate exposures (about 5 or 6 stops apart) and blend them in Photoshop. The exposure for the mtn required something like a 4 min exposure @ f/5.6 because the moon was only a thin sliver on this particular night. http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TADMAssVxyKqhvGct51HBq0RWn1RPMHGp5fAaOPUaxbbgCrMe qydTOltL7WKi7JDRU7vgdjykERrrtjaQxuVwAmfCQAKP1PlS8M YkH3vReKuX58b*OCoYw/s408d-$-500x800.jpg?dc=4675382620767221989 Finally, here is an image (Copper fm I-70) where the areas for photoshop correction were selected the same way (ie, a negative mask), but the opposite correction was used to completely darken the shadows and give a full silhouette effect, whereas in the original, some detail could still be seen in the shadow areas. http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TADMAsoVYyJjF8puQ08KKcUTB1T4KDoHcKp2qPoSkD1N9RF8g MYv0E8t10dz1uqdYuLoeCZ*SagcwQBB*8A!Gk5c1pdL8sC3pJp qlkobbBZ8qUm2GnkdsQ/s404b-$-460x800.jpg?dc=4675382620470896287 Ain't fotons fun? Yort |
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AstroPax wrote:
"Let Mikey Ski It!" wrote: Yup! Shoot and learn. I think you need to send me that new lens. Grumble grumble. $1600 bucks! Where did you find it for $1,600?!? My toy gland got seriously enlarged reading about that lens. Have you received it yet? What do you think?!? But if doesn't snow worth a ****, I'm screwed. I bet it will. If it doesn't, send it to me. Astro, have you done much tinkering with White Balance? After just reading a few articles, it sounds like we should be experimenting with this to see which handles snow best. I also have an 18% grey cloth but have never used it. Mike... -- Littleton, Colorado (reply to msaemisch at yahoo dot com) See my ski photography at: http://PowderDay.us Carpe powder-diem |
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Yort wrote:
... You are quite welcome. Once you get into the routine, correcting photos with this procedure can be done in under a couple of min and almost with your mind in idle and the clutch in. Yort, I am afraid my level of Photoshop knowledge is insufficient to recreate your process. Could you add a few more details on each menu/action you take in each step? Thanks! (I am using PS 7). I suppose you could set up a Photoshop action to speed things along? For yucks, I quickly did the same sort of correction on your 2nd photo: ... Very nice, again. I need to learn this process. Ain't fotons fun? Yes! Anyone else have some tips to share? Thanks, Mike... -- Littleton, Colorado (reply to msaemisch at yahoo dot com) See my ski photography at: http://PowderDay.us Carpe powder-diem |
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On 16 Aug 2003 13:40:09 GMT, "Let Mikey Ski It!"
wrote: AstroPax wrote: "Let Mikey Ski It!" wrote: Yup! Shoot and learn. I think you need to send me that new lens. Grumble grumble. $1600 bucks! Where did you find it for $1,600?!? My toy gland got seriously enlarged reading about that lens. Have you received it yet? What do you think?!? Mikey, Actually, I paid exactly $1,649.95 for the USA model from B&H Photo. I procure all of my gear from B&H because they are fast and reliable. Obviously, I could have purchased the grey market version for less, but if I'm gonna pay *that* much for a lens I think it's prudent to get the 5 year Nikon USA warranty. Especially for a lens that has so many switches, servos, gizmos, etc. A few pics of this monster mounted on my D100, w/tripod: http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/cam/70-200_1.jpg (38k) http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/cam/70-200_2.jpg (53k) Anyway, the thing is awesome. It's my first AF-S type lens. Talk about a *fast* auto-focus. Not too heavy, not too big, and it just happens to produce some rather high quality, sharp images. Yup, I'm thoroughly convinced that half the battle is with the glass. However, as we well know, the real test will occur when I start shooting during a nice Alta dump...big snowflakes, flat light, fast movers. But if doesn't snow worth a ****, I'm screwed. I bet it will. If it doesn't, send it to me. On second thought, I *will* find some snow, regardless! Even if I have to jump on the old Tele skis. But for that to happen, I would have to be really desperate. Astro, have you done much tinkering with White Balance? After just reading a few articles, it sounds like we should be experimenting with this to see which handles snow best. I also have an 18% grey cloth but have never used it. Yea, I think you might have something there. Guess it's time to start tinkering with the WB, but I'm not exactly sure where to start. Let me know if you have any good ideas. The most I've ever done is simply set it at a +3 EV. Also, seeing how skiers sometimes move erratically, I think I'll try Dynamic-area AF vs Single-area AF. Man, I can't believe it. My old film Nikon is gathering dust, big time. I feel sorry for Kodak. -Astro --- x-Vertigo http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/02-03/index.htm --- |
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AstroPax wrote:
A few pics of this monster mounted on my D100, w/tripod: http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/cam/70-200_1.jpg (38k) http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/cam/70-200_2.jpg (53k) BIGGGG F SCHWINNNNNNNNG !!!!!! You are hurting me, Astro. Must have must have. Oh baby. I am really curious to see how that VR works for skiers where you might be tracking the camera slowly. Yea, I think you might have something there. Guess it's time to start tinkering with the WB, but I'm not exactly sure where to start. Let me know if you have any good ideas. The article I read talked about not setting it to Auto, like I do. It said it works well sometimes but the camera does not always guess correctly. They talked about experimenting to see which you like best (like setting it to flash, or tungsten) and/or setting it manually (or shoot raw where it does not matter). I plan to experiment soon. Maybe this is a way to get rid of the blueish snow. Mike... -- Littleton, Colorado (reply to msaemisch at yahoo dot com) See my ski photography at: http://PowderDay.us Carpe powder-diem |
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AstroPax wrote:
A few pics of this monster mounted on my D100, w/tripod: http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/cam/70-200_1.jpg (38k) http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/cam/70-200_2.jpg (53k) Neat! Hmm, why the scalloped edge on the shield? Is that something new? Geesh, I've been out of it for a while. I'm still using a Canon AE-1P Mike |
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On 18 Aug 2003 15:40:05 GMT, "Mike Yetsko" wrote:
AstroPax wrote: A few pics of this monster mounted on my D100, w/tripod: http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/cam/70-200_1.jpg (38k) http://www.xmission.com/~hound/astro/cam/70-200_2.jpg (53k) Neat! Hmm, why the scalloped edge on the shield? Is that something new? It makes it easier to reach in with your fingers and remove the lens cap without removing the lens hood. But I'm still waiting for a design that works without having to take off the ski gloves. -Astro |
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