Am I the only one who does not like Franz's Run?

It's always crowded, and there's a steep pitch in one part which gets
all scraped-off and icy, just like the East - ughh. For groomers, I'd
rather ski the Blackcomb front-side runs off of Solarcoaster, or the
nice turning runs off the Crystal, like Ridge Runner. The only
problem with those is the return is complicated - you have to ski down
to Excelerator and take that back up, then ski down to the base of
Crystal chair, THEN take the deadly slow Crystal chair back up. Not
happening. It's a one-shot.

The Peak2Peak is damned convenient, though. Being able to switch
mountains in 11 minutes is just incredible - don't know I got along
without it. What I first considered a monstrosity, I know consider a
necessity. Life is often like that.

On Dec 20, 9:24*am, Dave Stallard wrote:
It's always crowded, and there's a steep pitch in one part which gets
all scraped-off and icy, just like the East - ughh.

****, you're stupid. You're bitching about a couple hundred yards of
a 3,000 vert run.
In my experience, it is rarely crowded and is some of the best skiing
on the hill.
But there is another person who hates that run. Anthea Kerrison.
Franz's was the site of the legendary RSA Downhill, where the bitch
was exposed as a blowhard crapbugger**** skier, and committed felonies
to get even for being humiliated.
It will always have a special place in my heart.

*For groomers, I'd
rather ski the Blackcomb front-side runs off of Solarcoaster, or the
nice turning runs off the Crystal, like Ridge Runner. * *The only
problem with those is the return is complicated - you have to ski down
to Excelerator and take that back up, then ski down to the base of
Crystal chair, THEN take the deadly slow Crystal chair back up. * Not
happening. *It's a one-shot.

The chair is not "deadly" slow, dumb****. It is an old fashioned
triple. If you weren't such a gumby tourist, you'd understand that is
where people in the know go to cruise when tourists like you are
clogging up the front side. Groomed runs hold up all day, and
dumb****s like you pinball off each other somewhere else.


The Peak2Peak is damned convenient, though. *Being able to switch
mountains in 11 minutes is just incredible - don't know I got along
without it. * What I first considered a monstrosity, I know consider a
necessity. *Life is often like that.

Holy ****. Thanks for confirming what an idiot you are. You actually
paid extra for that tourist ride?
Locals think the only reason to get on it is when your buddies are
having lunch on the other mountain. Otherwise, why bother? Plenty to
do on each mountain to keep you busy.
I talked to one of the guys who made the decision to build that
thing. They did it mostly for the summer trade, and figured they
could con some gumby's into riding it and paying more for the
privilege. Not only a dickless coward, but a truly stupid gumby
skier. Dickless Dave Stallard.
Hey, look at the bright side. If you ever spot me at Whistler, you
can always take the gondy to hide on the other hill.

On Dec 20, 4:21*pm, Ted Waldron wrote:

I guess I tend to be picky on snow quality. *I just find the snow, most
of the time, just bad below the alpine in W/B, and the long blue
cruisers are just disappointing to me. *It is really not a blue cruiser
Mt, because the snow quality goes from palatable above the Alpine to
super crappy by the time one gets below many of the chairs midway on the
mountain.

You're right; the draw of the mountain is not the cruiser trails, but
alpine off-trail: the bowls and glaciers (plus the chutes if you're at
that skill level). But when the alpine is closed, as it not
infrequently is, the trails are mostly what you've got And the snow
quality does decay markedly as go down mountain, particularly as you
go below the Solarcoaster base, and as you approach the village -
forget it. It's just for skiing down at end of day. Oddly enough,
some of the best snow I've found on-piste is the stuff in the Emerald
Chair area, with Ego Bowl and the "Family Zone" - unfortunately,
because it's totally a beginner area.

It's the hugeness of the off-trail that's the big appeal of the
place. It's the only mountain where I've encountered someone having
an agoraphobia attack! (On Blackcomb glacier)

However, to me, what brings me back to W/B is constant changing
conditions, that can make some blue cruisers, really difficult, (as in
icy conditions) and other days couloir extreme (like in the spring) a
blue cruiser. *

That last one's hard to believe, LOL!

I think the whole acreage, and total elevation are just *complete
nonsense at W/B, as much as finding this little gems throughout the
Mountains, like all the chutes, and of course the Blackcomb glacier. *
The only time I am suckered in going down the long blue cruisers if I am
skiing with a group of friends... *Every time I ski down to Whistler
Creekside, I always feel it is a complete waste of time, because I just
wasted an hour of time, that I could had spent at Whistler Bowl, Harmony
Bowl and Symphony Bowl.

I'm not a chute skiier, but I guess for me too, part of it is finding
out new things about the topography that I didn't know before. For
instance, I know this is dumb, but at the top of the Harmony chair,
traversing off-trail to skiier's extreme off onto the shoulder
enclosing the bowl, and realizing that one could ski down to the basin
where the Peak Chair is, without going via the Saddle or the
Roundhouse area. The Creekside run would be a once-per-visit thing.

I just hate the fog and sog!

Dave

More lift capacity leads to the powder being tracked out quicker. I
hope they never "upgrade" the cable-cars in La Grave.

I don't like Franz's chair. It not only knocked me hard to the ground when I was exiting and it was turning around to go back downhill, I watched for a while and saw it knock down about one in every 10 people.

The lift operators didn't bother to come out of their warm little hut and warn people to snap it up as they were exiting. They didn't bother to slow down the lift either, not that I noticed. I wonder if they thought it was funny or something. I sure didn't - getting slammed to the ground really hurt my neck.

This happened to me the morning of December 25, 2010.

On Dec 29, 11:53*pm, Sometimes Skier Sometimes.Skier.
wrote:

The lift operators didn't bother to come out of their warm little hut
and warn people to snap it up as they were exiting.

I didn't think people needed to be warned of that. It's like expecting
the cops to tell you not to stand in the freeway. Isn't there a ramp
to ski down after exiting the chair?

On Dec 29, 10:53*pm, Sometimes Skier Sometimes.Skier.
wrote:
I don't like Franz's chair. *It not only knocked me hard to the ground
when I was exiting and it was turning around to go back downhill, I
watched for a while and saw it knock down about one in every 10 people.

The lift operators didn't bother to come out of their warm little hut
and warn people to snap it up as they were exiting. *They didn't bother
to slow down the lift either, not that I noticed. *I wonder if they
thought it was funny or something. *I sure didn't - getting slammed to
the ground really hurt my neck.

This happened to me the morning of December 25, 2010.

--
Sometimes Skier

Snowboarder?

On Dec 29, 10:53*pm, Sometimes Skier Sometimes.Skier.
wrote:
I don't like Franz's chair. *It not only knocked me hard to the ground
when I was exiting and it was turning around to go back downhill, I
watched for a while and saw it knock down about one in every 10 people.

Holy ****. It's a ****ing FIXED GRIP lift, you blithering idiot.
Been skiing that lift for thirty years or so. Never saw a Warren
Miller moment, and it sure didn't knock me down.

The lift operators didn't bother to come out of their warm little hut
and warn people to snap it up as they were exiting.

You stupid dumb****, you're supposed to know how to ski and get off a
lift before you get on the damn thing. No one to blame but yourself.

*They didn't bother
to slow down the lift either, not that I noticed.

FIXED GRIP!!!!!!!!!! They can't slow it down at the terminal,
Thompson! Oooops, forgot. When I call someone a dumb**** idiot, it
is usually Brain Fried Bob.

*I wonder if they
thought it was funny or something. *I sure didn't - getting slammed to
the ground really hurt my neck.

I think it is hilarious that you are so ignorant, so stupid, and such
a dumb**** that you made an absolute fool out of yourself and exposed
yourself as a gumby.

This happened to me the morning of December 25, 2010.

Merry Xmas, asshole.

On Dec 30, 6:48*am, pigo wrote:
On Dec 29, 11:53*pm, Sometimes Skier Sometimes.Skier.

wrote:
The lift operators didn't bother to come out of their warm little hut
and warn people to snap it up as they were exiting.

I didn't think people needed to be warned of that. It's like expecting
the cops to tell you not to stand in the freeway. *Isn't there a ramp
to ski down after exiting the chair?

It's like expecting Dickless Bob to man up and call me a child
molester in person. Never going to happen.

On 12/29/10 10:53 PM, Sometimes Skier wrote:
I don't like Franz's chair. It not only knocked me hard to the ground
when I was exiting and it was turning around to go back downhill, I
watched for a while and saw it knock down about one in every 10 people.

Are you sure Warren Miller wasn't lurking in the shadows?

The lift operators didn't bother to come out of their warm little hut
and warn people to snap it up as they were exiting. They didn't bother
to slow down the lift either, not that I noticed. I wonder if they
thought it was funny or something. I sure didn't - getting slammed to
the ground really hurt my neck.

Apparently the lift ops that day didn't realize that a fixed grip lift
has a fully adjustable speed, and can be slowed if conditions warrant.

BTW, pay no attention to the Village Idiot; he is ostracized by all
(except Horvath.) If you don't know who the VI is, he will now jump in
and self-identify.