My Thoughts

You know, when I saw Bode's interview on TV my first reaction was "What
an A--hole". My wife's reaction was the same. After considering it a
bit more, I have changed my opinion. I equate it to something like this:
The 8 year old has been playing with his favorite radio controlled car
in the driveway, and although he has been told not to drive it out in
the street he does so anyway, and it gets run over by a truck, totally
smashing it.

Now his dad is pointing out the error in his ways, asking what he was
thinking, and getting no response he finally says in exasperation "Well
I'm not going to buy you a new one!". The mumbled response, calculated
to provide the most irritation is "Doenkeer".

In actual fact, he does care, a lot, but he will never let on that he
knows his actions produced an undesirable result.

I think Bode was realizing that his party living, lack of preparation
and training, and general lackadaisical approach had produced what they
usually produce, and what he had been warned they would produce. Now,
confronted with it his response is "Doenkeer".

My thoughts.

C.

On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:47:20 GMT, CParker
wrote:


My thoughts.

Wrong.
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Got any thoughts on the vile lies, the gross stalking, the psychpathic
amorality of rsa regulars?
Doenkeer, eh?
"CParker" wrote in message
...
You know, when I saw Bode's interview on TV my first reaction was "What an
A--hole". My wife's reaction was the same. After considering it a bit
more, I have changed my opinion. I equate it to something like this: The 8
year old has been playing with his favorite radio controlled car in the
driveway, and although he has been told not to drive it out in the street
he does so anyway, and it gets run over by a truck, totally smashing it.

Now his dad is pointing out the error in his ways, asking what he was
thinking, and getting no response he finally says in exasperation "Well
I'm not going to buy you a new one!". The mumbled response, calculated to
provide the most irritation is "Doenkeer".

In actual fact, he does care, a lot, but he will never let on that he
knows his actions produced an undesirable result.

I think Bode was realizing that his party living, lack of preparation and
training, and general lackadaisical approach had produced what they
usually produce, and what he had been warned they would produce. Now,
confronted with it his response is "Doenkeer".

My thoughts.

C.



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CParker wrote:

I think Bode was realizing that his party living, lack of preparation
and training, and general lackadaisical approach had produced what they
usually produce, and what he had been warned they would produce.

Which leads right back to the questions. What "lack of preparation and
training, and general lackadaisical approach?" Can you offer ANY
substantiation for any of these claims? Even for "party living" beyond
visiting the village and mingling with the athletes?

OK, I'll let you off one hook - he DOES lack SL specific training days
that the technical specialists have, but ONLY because he's racing all
the disciplines and doesn't have time (look at the WC schedule for
confirmation of lack of time) - but that's not unique to him - all the
generalists have that problem.

As for the rest of your claims - they're BS, inventions of a media
feeding frenzy and they sucked you in.
In every Olympic race Miller had, his splits were solid and competitive.
No way was his prep poor, his skiing approach lackadaisical, or his
general ski training suspect.

Think again, and then give us some your new thoughts.

Alex Heney wrote:

On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:47:20 GMT, CParker
wrote:



My thoughts.


Wrong.

Zing!

lal_truckee wrote:
CParker wrote:

I think Bode was realizing that his party living, lack of preparation
and training, and general lackadaisical approach had produced what
they usually produce, and what he had been warned they would produce.

Which leads right back to the questions. What "lack of preparation and
training, and general lackadaisical approach?" Can you offer ANY
substantiation for any of these claims? Even for "party living" beyond
visiting the village and mingling with the athletes?

OK, I'll let you off one hook - he DOES lack SL specific training days
that the technical specialists have, but ONLY because he's racing all
the disciplines and doesn't have time (look at the WC schedule for
confirmation of lack of time) - but that's not unique to him - all the
generalists have that problem.

He's got plenty of time now that he's not going on the Asian trip. Maybe
he can use that time to get his head on straight and decide if he wants
to party or ski competitively.

I've got a question for everyone. What's the point of skiing in the
finals if he's not going to Asia, has no chance of accumulating points
for the next few weeks, and has no chance of winning anything? It's
obviously not about trying to win (and neither was the Olympics for Mr.
Miller.) Do you think it might be about sponsors and money? Or is it
just "one last chance to party with everyone before they go home"? Or
maybe it's just a chance to ski without any pressure to win. What do you
think?

(This is not a troll but a serious question)

Chuck wrote:

I've got a question for everyone. What's the point of skiing in the
finals if he's not going to Asia, has no chance of accumulating points
for the next few weeks, and has no chance of winning anything?

There might not be a point for you, or for a lot of folks. Particularly
in the USA, competitive athletics is something that few adults
participate in, and I'm not sure which is the chicken and which is the
egg: whether the competition doesn't exist because we don't want to
compete, or whether we don't compete because there are few avenues for
it. Many people in the US don't want to compete in sports when they
have no realistic chances of winning -- they feel that under those
circumstances, there is no point. I'm not going to tell them that
they're wrong, but personally I find it sad. There is a point in
trying, and...I dunno, stepping up to the plate and being willing to
try, that can teach you things even if you do whiff.

And there are a very great many skiers who will be at the finals and who
also have no shot at a crystal globe. I think they'd be surprised if
someone suggested that there was no point in their being there because
they had no chance of winning. Of course, for them, they can improve
their situation sponsors with just one really good result, but
that's not Bode's situation. I dunno. I suspect for both Bode and
others, the thought is something like, "I've got a chance to compete in
a World Cup race; of course I'm gonna be there."

It's
obviously not about trying to win (and neither was the Olympics for Mr.
Miller.) Do you think it might be about sponsors and money? Or is it
just "one last chance to party with everyone before they go home"? Or
maybe it's just a chance to ski without any pressure to win. What do you
think?

I'm sure there's some sponsor pressure (or "encouragement") on every
sponsored racer, but I don't think that's a huge factor here. Nor do I
think the party is a big deal, although Bode seems to genuinely get
along well with the other racers, and there is always something special
about the last event of the year, before everybody hangs it up and goes
home. The guy loves to ski, and he loves to ski as well as he can, and
to do that, he's got to ski against the best.

I think his biggest mistake over the past few years was the insistence
on skiing in every race. It was an awesome feat, but I think it had a
heavy cost. He's learned that he can be the best skier in the world in
any event, but he can't be the best skier in the world at _every_ event.
That's the big problem that he's got to come to terms with.

(This is not a troll but a serious question)

Understood. Thanks for the good and thought-provoking question.

Chuck wrote:

I've got a question for everyone. What's the point of skiing in the
finals if he's not going to Asia, has no chance of accumulating points
for the next few weeks, and has no chance of winning anything? It's
obviously not about trying to win (and neither was the Olympics for Mr.
Miller.)

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/disciplines/alpineskiing/cupstandings.html

Each race is a separate event. What do you mean, not trying to win? Look
at the standings site referenced above - all 144 of those racers are
trying to win every race they enter. Only 5-10 have any realistic chance
of wining any given race. So why to they race? You tell me.

BTW, once more you make a crack about Miller which, since I'm feeling
generous I'll attribute to ignorance rather than malice. Given that
Miller placed high in two Olympic races and had excellent splits in
others, why would you say he was "not trying to win" unless you are
parroting someone without sense to look at the results?

I postulate that DNF (did not finish) seems to non-skiers the equivalent
of giving up and that DQ (disqualified) seems to non-skiers the
equivalent of breaking a rule. Neither is the case. Do some research.

"lal_truckee" wrote in message
. com...
Chuck wrote:

I've got a question for everyone. What's the point of skiing in the
finals if he's not going to Asia, has no chance of accumulating points
for the next few weeks, and has no chance of winning anything? It's
obviously not about trying to win (and neither was the Olympics for Mr.
Miller.)

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/disciplines/alpineskiing/cupstandings.html

Each race is a separate event. What do you mean, not trying to win? Look
at the standings site referenced above - all 144 of those racers are
trying to win every race they enter. Only 5-10 have any realistic chance
of wining any given race. So why to they race? You tell me.

BTW, once more you make a crack about Miller which, since I'm feeling
generous I'll attribute to ignorance rather than malice. Given that Miller
placed high in two Olympic races and had excellent splits in others, why
would you say he was "not trying to win" unless you are parroting someone
without sense to look at the results?


It sounds like a red herring debate starter quote.
miller may not have been at his best, or maybe he was just bested.
who knows, and at this point only miller should care.
I don't and don't know anyone outside the media who does.

lal_truckee wrote:
Chuck wrote:

I've got a question for everyone. What's the point of skiing in the
finals if he's not going to Asia, has no chance of accumulating points
for the next few weeks, and has no chance of winning anything? It's
obviously not about trying to win (and neither was the Olympics for Mr.
Miller.)

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/disciplines/alpineskiing/cupstandings.html

Each race is a separate event. What do you mean, not trying to win? Look
at the standings site referenced above - all 144 of those racers are
trying to win every race they enter. Only 5-10 have any realistic chance
of wining any given race. So why to they race? You tell me.

BTW, once more you make a crack about Miller which, since I'm feeling
generous I'll attribute to ignorance rather than malice. Given that
Miller placed high in two Olympic races and had excellent splits in
others, why would you say he was "not trying to win" unless you are
parroting someone without sense to look at the results?

I postulate that DNF (did not finish) seems to non-skiers the equivalent
of giving up and that DQ (disqualified) seems to non-skiers the
equivalent of breaking a rule. Neither is the case. Do some research.

Actually DQ (disqualified) *is* breaking a rule. That are lots of
reasons to be DQ'ed besides missing a gate. Like equipment that is
deemed illegal according to FIS rules, failing a post race drug test,
etc. Anyway I am digressing.

It just seems odd that he'd drop out of the Asian tour effectively
killing any chance that he'd have of winning a globe, but is skiing the
finals.