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Old December 15th 07, 05:55 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
skijornovice
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Default Skate skis vs classic skis?

Hello,

Novice level skiier here, wondering about the differences between
skate skis vs. classic skis.

I've only ever had classic skis and have recently taken up the sport
of skijorijng (my dogs run in harness in front and pull me while I ski
- or try to ski - behind). With classic skis, I find it's too hard to
ski classic-style at the higher speed we travel at with the dogs
pulling, so I end up only poling, and corners are very tricky. My
understanding is that ideally in skijoring you're supposed to skate
ski, but this seems hard to do on classic skiis while being pulled at
speed.

Do skate skiis offer more control for higher speed turns? Are they
more effective for snowplowing to stop? Are they less likely to get
"caught" in the occasional deeper patches of snow?

I'm very appreciative of any advice/tips anyone can offer on this
matter.

Cheers!
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Old December 15th 07, 08:49 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
Oskar K
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Default Skate skis vs classic skis?


Skate skis are ususaly a bit shorter than the classic skis. And that's
about it when it comes to differences. Well, the tip/front of classic
skis is pointing up more than the skate onces since skate skis are
ought to be used where there's been a snowmobile packing it up first.

So since they have the same width they will also dig down in the snow.

I think maybe you should get tour skis? a bit wider and sometimes with
steel edges so that plowing will be easier. Tehy will float a little
bit better ontop of the snow too. The only downside is that they weight
more than normal skis

maybe something like these:

http://www.backcountry.com/store/ROS...=1&swatch=S160

/o



On 2007-12-15 19:55:43 +0100, skijornovice said:

Hello,

Novice level skiier here, wondering about the differences between
skate skis vs. classic skis.

I've only ever had classic skis and have recently taken up the sport
of skijorijng (my dogs run in harness in front and pull me while I ski
- or try to ski - behind). With classic skis, I find it's too hard to
ski classic-style at the higher speed we travel at with the dogs
pulling, so I end up only poling, and corners are very tricky. My
understanding is that ideally in skijoring you're supposed to skate
ski, but this seems hard to do on classic skiis while being pulled at
speed.

Do skate skiis offer more control for higher speed turns? Are they
more effective for snowplowing to stop? Are they less likely to get
"caught" in the occasional deeper patches of snow?

I'm very appreciative of any advice/tips anyone can offer on this
matter.

Cheers!





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Old December 15th 07, 09:11 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
Melinda Shore
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Default Skate skis vs classic skis?

In article ,
Oskar K wrote:
I think maybe you should get tour skis? a bit wider and sometimes with
steel edges so that plowing will be easier. Tehy will float a little
bit better ontop of the snow too. The only downside is that they weight
more than normal skis


Steel-edged skis are a mixed blessing when skijoring. The
first thing to know is that they're not legal in races, but
aside from that, if you're not a very proficient skier you
run the risk of causing really serious injury (deep gashes
on the leg, severed tendons, and whatnot) if you hit the dog,
which is why they're not legal. On the other hand, the
short backcountry skis turn more easily, stop more easily,
and are awfully slow, which can be advantageous if, again,
you're not a very proficient skier.

I think the ticket if you're serious about skijoring is to
go to a Nordic centre, take some lessons, and start
skating. Also, there's a big skijoring camp at the end of
the month in Lake Placid, and it will include ski lessons
and coaching in addition to skijor-specific sessions. I
think registration may have just closed but it never hurts
to ask. http://www.skidawgski.com .
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Old December 16th 07, 04:27 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
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Default Skate skis vs classic skis?


Skate skis are ususaly a bit shorter than the classic skis. And that's
about it when it comes to differences.


A classic ski has a chamber which is supposed to come in contact with
the snow surface during the kick phase to push the kick was against
the snow surface.
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Old December 16th 07, 03:24 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
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Default Skate skis vs classic skis?

Did you do a google search for skijoring clubs to ask? Here's one
possibility: http://www.sleddogcentral.com/skijoring.htm


skijornovice wrote:

Hello,

Novice level skiier here, wondering about the differences between
skate skis vs. classic skis.

I've only ever had classic skis and have recently taken up the sport
of skijorijng (my dogs run in harness in front and pull me while I ski
- or try to ski - behind). With classic skis, I find it's too hard to
ski classic-style at the higher speed we travel at with the dogs
pulling, so I end up only poling, and corners are very tricky. My
understanding is that ideally in skijoring you're supposed to skate
ski, but this seems hard to do on classic skiis while being pulled at
speed.

Do skate skiis offer more control for higher speed turns? Are they
more effective for snowplowing to stop? Are they less likely to get
"caught" in the occasional deeper patches of snow?

I'm very appreciative of any advice/tips anyone can offer on this
matter.

Cheers!

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Old December 21st 07, 01:38 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
32 degrees
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Default Skate skis vs classic skis?

I have skijored with a good solid 110 pound husky/lab mix and let me tell
you SKATING is the way to go.
If you have a solid strong and fast dog, you can barely even keep up even if
you are a GOOD skater. When my dog was in his prime we could seriously
crank out a solid 4 minute mile if I was skating on good well groomed solid
terrain. In fact, i'd NOT use poles even. I just hang on to the rope and
go like hell. By simply holding on to the rope you can let up or pull back
to keep it tight and keep your balance and cornering is no problem. Get
some cheap skate skis, drop the poles, and go !!

JKal.

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Did you do a google search for skijoring clubs to ask? Here's one
possibility: http://www.sleddogcentral.com/skijoring.htm


skijornovice wrote:

Hello,

Novice level skiier here, wondering about the differences between
skate skis vs. classic skis.

I've only ever had classic skis and have recently taken up the sport
of skijorijng (my dogs run in harness in front and pull me while I ski
- or try to ski - behind). With classic skis, I find it's too hard to
ski classic-style at the higher speed we travel at with the dogs
pulling, so I end up only poling, and corners are very tricky. My
understanding is that ideally in skijoring you're supposed to skate
ski, but this seems hard to do on classic skiis while being pulled at
speed.

Do skate skiis offer more control for higher speed turns? Are they
more effective for snowplowing to stop? Are they less likely to get
"caught" in the occasional deeper patches of snow?

I'm very appreciative of any advice/tips anyone can offer on this
matter.

Cheers!



 




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